Jarrett Allen: Nice Head of Hair

[Alec]

Has he expanded his range yet? I thought he had FT form...

 

[Omar The Horse]

4 rebounds in 40 minutes in a must win game.

Worth every penny!

 

[letgocavs]

I got shit all season about how Allen is this and that. I will probably take 40 other centers in the league over him. At least. Trade him for anything.

 

[Dr. Claw]

I can't wait to put all the doubters on the wall before the firing squad in the near future.
JA only has this kind of bad matchup against 4 teams in the NBA, and one of them is the Knicks.
And even then, ignoring the rebound matter -- just setting screens and getting Brunson in motion made Robinson sit the rest of the game on the bench.

I'd rather keep unless the trade is a "can't miss". I doubt that kind of talent is going to magically appear.

In the interim, I would like to find a big that can fit in between him and Mobley so that they can be staggered. Less of this noise would be happening if that were the case. Ideally, a younger Robert Covington type. Covington, at 32, almost 33 -- is making about $4-5 million more.

I don't like a player like Porzingis swapped with him. If he couldn't work with Luka, how does this work with the Cavs? Maybe if he were cheap enough to be the guy in the middle.

 

[willglam]

Why did he play 40 minutes? Good lord and literally made zero impact!

 

[letgocavs]

I can't wait to put all the doubters on the wall before the firing squad in the near future.
JA only has this kind of bad matchup against 4 teams in the NBA, and one of them is the Knicks.
And even then, ignoring the rebound matter -- just setting screens and getting Brunson in motion made Robinson sit the rest of the game on the bench.

I'd rather keep unless the trade is a "can't miss". I doubt that kind of talent is going to magically appear.

In the interim, I would like to find a big that can fit in between him and Mobley so that they can be staggered. Less of this noise would be happening if that were the case. Ideally, a younger Robert Covington type. Covington, at 32, almost 33 -- is making about $4-5 million more.

I don't like a player like Porzingis swapped with him. If he couldn't work with Luka, how does this work with the Cavs? Maybe if he were cheap enough to be the guy in the middle.

So against these four teams it’s ok to have 4/5 rebounds in 40 minutes and giving up a 20 on the other end? This all has to do with effort.

 

[Dr. Claw]

So against these four teams it’s ok to have 4/5 rebounds in 40 minutes and giving up a 20 on the other end?

It's not OK, but the point is, that's it's not the norm. Now it should be a focus. Likely won't be fixed this series, but in the future.

 

[letgocavs]

It's not OK, but the point is, that's it's not the norm. Now it should be a focus. Likely won't be fixed this series, but in the future.

What do big centers have to do with not chasing down loose balls? Both of their centers just flat out gave more effort.

 

[godfather]

Why did he play 40 minutes? Good lord and literally made zero impact!

Because we have no depth.

I love Allen and have no idea what has happen to him. His effort has been disgraceful, but we have no choice to play him.

Not playing him, forces us to play guys that aren't that productive even more. This is what having no depth does.

That's why its impossible to blame JB for things like this. He's not a good coach, but he's not had it easy by any means either.

 

[Kouki]

Is RoLo that bad where he can't get ten minutes a night against fucking Mitchell Robinson

Match girth with girth, yeah RoLo is slow but he could play a few minutes with energy and at least make Mitchell Robinson work

Edited to add, even Lamar. How in the fuck do we not even find five minutes at some point over the last four games for the OG junkyard dog when we are getting punched in the face repeatedly.

 

[Randolphkeys]

Because we have no depth.

I love Allen and have no idea what has happen to him. His effort has been disgraceful, but we have no choice to play him.

Not playing him, forces us to play guys that aren't that productive even more. This is what having no depth does.

That's why its impossible to blame JB for things like this. He's not a good coach, but he's not had it easy by any means either.

I like a lot of what is being said here. I was as frustrated as everyone else Sunday, but I decided not to post about it until I could muster a level-head.

The Knicks are playing much more physically than the Cavs. They are chipping and holding. This is the playoffs so you can't be too surprised, especially in the Garden on their home floor.

But the price is paid with Allen looking physically broken after two games in less than 72 hours. He played big minutes while Hartenstein and Robinson are being kept fresh. Together they can put in effort and frankly take risks that Allen and Mobley cannot. I can say the same about the rest of our Big Four be side they are also playing extremely inconsistently and look beat up as well.

The Knicks have quality depth, so they can run nine or ten guys out there. As Cavs fans we can fool ourselves into thinking our depth are good... but just because I don't believe Cedi and Rubio should be playing big meaningful roles doesn't mean the end of our bench could do better.

The Cavs have a nice talented young core... but depth is severely lacking and cost us dearly in the fourth.

 

[dms]

But the price is paid with Allen looking physically broken after two games in less than 72 hours. He played big minutes while Hartenstein and Robinson are being kept fresh. Together they can put in effort and frankly take risks that Allen and Mobley cannot. I can say the same about the rest of our Big Four be side they are also playing extremely inconsistently and look beat up as well.

The Knicks have quality depth, so they can run nine or ten guys out there. As Cavs fans we can fool ourselves into thinking our depth are good... but just because I don't believe Cedi and Rubio should be playing big meaningful roles doesn't mean the end of our bench could do better.

The Cavs have a nice talented young core... but depth is severely lacking and cost us dearly in the fourth.

I agree with much of what you said but you totally lost me with 2 games within 72 hours!! Come on, Really??
This is a league where 5 games in 7 nights used to be the norm, and Allen struggles with 2 games in less than 72 hours. This isn't the NFL, and for all the talk of physicality by the Knicks they've kept in clean, not like Memphis.
Steph Curry is 35. He played 43 minutes yesterday.

 

[Randolphkeys]

I agree with much of what you said but you totally lost me with 2 games within 72 hours!! Come on, Really??
This is a league where 5 games in 7 nights used to be the norm, and Allen struggles with 2 games in less than 72 hours. This isn't the NFL, and for all the talk of physicality by the Knicks they've kept in clean, not like Memphis.
Steph Curry is 35. He played 43 minutes yesterday.

It's the depth and physical style of play. I'm not making excuses, I'm explaining results. The quality depth of New York and poor depth of the Cavs absolutely creates the tipping point of game four.

 

[Adam]

I honestly think if Jarrett is no regularly talking to a sports psychologist then he needs to start. His mentality is so weak

 

[The Oi]

I honestly think if Jarrett is no regularly talking to a sports psychologist then he needs to start. His mentality is so weak

Ignore everything I’m about to say if I’m misunderstanding what sports psychologists do but…

Some people are just wired different. I know you know that, but just saying.

Dude tends to plants and is a nerd (not a bad thing). He picks opponents up when they fall on the ground mid-game. Seems like a guy that’s pretty happy with who he is too. Can’t really say just watching, just guessing.

Feel like you’d have to convince him that his very nature is a flaw if you send him to a psych.

Granted, it IS a flaw from a competitive standpoint because it fucking hurts your teammates when you do that against uber competitive people who are dying to take advantage of it.

I’m just saying this to say that I’m not sure sending him to a sports psych would do it. I think you might have to change his role on the floor or trade him to a team that plays differently.

He just strikes me as a guy that LIKES playing like that. Which sucks.