John Beilein: Continuing his education

[Cavalierfan]

ProBasketballTalk: Report: Larry Drew wanted to quit as Cavaliers coach during last year's All-Star break
https://nba.nbcsports.com/2020/02/1...liers-coach-during-last-years-all-star-break/

This franchise is in big trouble and the problem starts at the very top.

 

[Randolphkeys]

There's way too many grammatical errors for me to take this post seriously. I'm guessing 14 maybe 15 years old . . .

For the record... that was the edited version. He worked on it to make it that good. Now back to the Cavaliers dysfunctional carousel of nightmares.

 

[BiGZD]

Sunshine pumpers and dysfunctional mods will spin this as a positive. We are doomed unless Brony JR is like his dad. At least Dan keeps some bank maybe he'll loan the Dolans some cash since he ain't cheap.

 

[inliner311]

ProBasketballTalk: Report: Larry Drew wanted to quit as Cavaliers coach during last year's All-Star break
https://nba.nbcsports.com/2020/02/1...liers-coach-during-last-years-all-star-break/

This franchise is in big trouble and the problem starts at the very top.

I think the trouble is more the circumstances that the Cavs are in than the front office or ownership. They have vet players that have won a championship so to fall so far has to be frustrating. Pair that with the protections that Griff had on the pick to the Hawks (which is with the Pelicans now) and they are just put in a hard place.

Larry Drew knew the Cavs couldn't make winning move again this year. They didn't have the draft capital to really create the influx of talent to just dump TT and Love for nothing. I think Larry Drew hated it because he was handicap by the front office because of the pick protections.

Beilein probably would have been alot happier if he could have just coached the young core without the vets. Without being able to get good assets for Love, TT, and all the expirings we had, Beilein would be stuck with this group again next year. Koby adding Drummond was a reaction to the lack of assets out there for our vet players.

The Cavs won't be able to just build from the draft alone and for someone like Beilein to have a chance at building a culture, he needs a purely young team that is talented enough to grow and buy in while being able to fill out the rotation without veteran players as placeholders.

 

[Cavatt]

I think the trouble is more the circumstances that the Cavs are in than the front office or ownership. They have vet players that have won a championship so to fall so far has to be frustrating. Pair that with the protections that Griff had on the pick to the Hawks (which is with the Pelicans now) and they are just put in a hard place.

Larry Drew knew the Cavs couldn't make winning move again this year. They didn't have the draft capital to really create the influx of talent to just dump TT and Love for nothing. I think Larry Drew hated it because he was handicap by the front office because of the pick protections.

Beilein probably would have been alot happier if he could have just coached the young core without the vets. Without being able to get good assets for Love, TT, and all the expirings we had, Beilein would be stuck with this group again next year. Koby adding Drummond was a reaction to the lack of assets out there for our vet players.

The Cavs won't be able to just build from the draft alone and for someone like Beilein to have a chance at building a culture, he needs a purely young team that is talented enough to grow and buy in while being able to fill out the rotation without veteran players as placeholders.

Definitely makes you wonder if TT and Love both got traded

 

[cabs]

Definitely makes you wonder if TT and Love both got traded

All honesty I don't think it would have changed his mind, I think he came here thinking he'd be able to get us to at least be a semi competitive 30 win team from the get go. He genuinely looked in pain in the presser after some of the losses.

 

[wildfan]

this season has went as I expected. Think its time for Gilbert to set goals for the organisation -not just be competitive but number of wins- defensive and offensive rank, etc. Just like a business he needs to hold monthly meetings and have the GM and coach explain the status and what action need to be taken. Think it needs to be a 5 year plan with goal to win the East. They also need to spend whatever it takes to hire the best talent scouting staff in the NBA,

 

[Green Lantern]

Maybe,it's the young guys but let's not act like those three players,who won that title did Beilein any favors.

You have Tristan that had an issue with Sexton, last year but seem to embraced him this year. He seem more of the leader than Love. Anyways,while he has improved his offense he still put the ball on the ground for no reason.

Dellvadova is a good facilitator and leader but can't shoot a three to save his life.

And,our supposedly best player Kevin Love...He seem to disappear in certain games when two players on the team is crazy hot ,whether it be Sexton Garland, Cedi Porter. Don't let me start his treatment towards the young guys. I wouldn't be surprised, if they have some animosity towards Love. He walks around like he's Lebron or Kyrie when he's not.

Never said they were exempt ..that they were in his corner.. I don't like their tude either..because they set the tone. I can't include Delly because I've not heard of him dissing any coach.
I'm strictly taking about attitude and respecting a HC. Especially a rookie HC .
Even going back to Lebron , he had his ego problems with coaches.
I will continue to repeat this. The young players who are following the bad examples haven't won or accomplished anything so they really don't have a right or a cause to disrespect anyone just becasue they're playing in the NBA.

 

[LeeBuckeye]

Maybe the next rendition of the rebuild won’t have guys leaving or plotting to leave millions behind just to get away from this mess. Dude was traded for a 2nd round pick, only played 2 games, is a dinosaur positionally yet is attempting to call his own shots already.

Maybe next times Dan/Koby won’t get obsessed with winning momentary headline by acquiring big names and perhaps acquire for fit (draft/trade with roster construction in mind and mix of “right” vets with youth timeline). Nothing changes until we draft a superstar but start somewhere.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Sunshine pumpers and dysfunctional mods will spin this as a positive. We are doomed unless Brony JR is like his dad. At least Dan keeps some bank maybe he'll loan the Dolans some cash since he ain't cheap.

When in a a hole, keep digging.

@Randolphkeys

 

[Green Lantern]

Maybe the next rendition of the rebuild won’t have guys leaving or plotting to leave millions behind just to get away from this mess. Dude was traded for a 2nd round pick, only played 2 games, is a dinosaur positionally yet is attempting to call his own shots already.

Maybe next times Dan/Koby won’t get obsessed with winning momentary headline by acquiring big names and perhaps acquire for fit (draft/trade with roster construction in mind and mix of “right” vets with youth timeline). Nothing changes until we draft a superstar but start somewhere.

My first response is ..WHAT? Drum was going to leave because of JB?
I mean two weeks? Is it that toxic?
I know you'd have to be in that locker room to see whats going on, but man ,this is just stupid.

 

[rastamon87]

I feel bad for the other assistant coaches, specially Gottlieb... Had a nice college gig that she left for this mess, not sure what her standing is now with the team... If she is let go after these turn of events, it's gonna leave a bad taste on the mouth...

 

[Green Lantern]

I feel bad for the other assistant coaches, specially Gottlieb... Had a nice college gig that she left for this mess, not sure what her standing is now with the team... If she is let go after these turn of events, it's gonna leave a bad taste on the mouth...

Listening to Jason Lloyd on the fan..he said the players were surprised by JB stepping down.
If true are they just ignorant and stupid ? Is anyone in their right mind not shocked?
They are not listening to coach, wanting to be traded and not think he's going to stay and put up with that?
So now they're surprised.

 

[Man Called X]

Listening to Jason Lloyd on the fan..he said the players were surprised by JB stepping down.
If true are they just ignorant and stupid ? Is anyone in their right mind not shocked?
They are not listening to coach, wanting to be traded and not think he's going to stay and put up with that?
So now they're surprised.

When has a player ever been completely candid about a coaching change? They were shocked when Blatt was fired too.

 

[Green Lantern]

When has a player ever been completely candid about a coaching change? They were shocked when Blatt was fired too.

Did I forget my sarcasm emogi after Jason's comment?
They weren't really shocked when Blatt got fired, they knew that was coming sooner or later. Superstar player didn't respect him one ounce..

These guys aren't surprised in any genuine manner.
Lloyd seemed to believe it.