Minor League Week 8 Games (6/22 - 6/27/21)

[Derek]

This is going to anger quite a few people in this thread.

Nobody is angry at or rooting against Oscar Gonzalez.

You have completely misread the room.

 

[DCTribefan]

Reno was known for having multiple accounts and carrying on conversations with himself

This^

 

[Wham with the Right Hand]

This is going to anger quite a few people in this thread.

I don't know anything about this guy but...

During [12-game hitting] streak: 20-47 5R 6(2B) 3HR 11RBI 5BB .426 AVG .481 OBP

The clip shows him hitting singles to center and right, so he's not strictly a pull hitter. That extra base hit percentage of 45% means he's not just slapping singles, either. And 5 walks in 12 games doesn't exactly disqualify him as a prospect.

I want to see more, preferably at Columbus. They moved Francisco Perez up, maybe it's time for Gonzo to see some better pitching.

I'd also like to see them swap Zimmer for Daniel Johnson, who is hitting .300 over his last 9 games with four HR's. Zimmer doesn't have an extra base hit in 66 at-bats despite having elite speed out of the left-handed batter's box. I doubt Johnson would hit for a higher average than Zimmer (.227) but he would hit for more power with similar speed and range.

 

[DickyLeftridge]

Nobody is angry at or rooting against Oscar Gonzalez.

You have completely misread the room.

The room spends a disproportionate amount of time, energy, and posts propping up guys like Jordan Luplow and minimizing every accomplishment of guys like Bradley and Gonzalez. Those are facts. You want us to interpret those facts as suggesting the room isn't rooting against Bradley and Gonzalez, at worst, or is ambivalent towards them, at best? That seems a stretch bub.

Let's keep things on topic. Do you see Gonzalez's dramatically improved walk numbers this year as a sign that his prospect status within the organization should be re-evaluated?

 

[Derek]

I don't know anything about this guy but...

During [12-game hitting] streak: 20-47 5R 6(2B) 3HR 11RBI 5BB .426 AVG .481 OBP

The clip shows him hitting singles to center and right, so he's not strictly a pull hitter. That extra base hit percentage of 45% means he's not just slapping singles, either. And 5 walks in 12 games doesn't exactly disqualify him as a prospect.

I want to see more, preferably at Columbus. They moved Francisco Perez up, maybe it's time for Gonzo to see some better pitching.

It wouldn't surprise if they were operating a little differently this year, but typically, the team likes to make their call ups for position players and pitchers during the All-Star break in mid-July.

 

[Derek]

The room spends a disproportionate amount of time, energy, and posts propping up guys like Jordan Luplow and minimizing every accomplishment of guys like Bradley and Gonzalez. Those are facts. You want us to interpret those facts as suggesting the room isn't rooting against Bradley and Gonzalez, at worst, or is ambivalent towards them, at best? That seems a stretch bub.

Let's keep things on topic. Do you see Gonzalez's dramatically improved walk numbers this year as a sign that his prospect status within the organization should be re-evaluated?

You're literally making up things to be angry about. The things you're claiming are happening, aren't.

Have a blessed day.

 

[DickyLeftridge]

You're literally making up things to be angry about. The things you're claiming are happening, aren't.

Have a blessed day.

I can tell that you are ecstatic about Gonzalez's development and anxious to consider his improved status in the org!

 

[Derek]

I can tell that you are ecstatic about Gonzalez's development and anxious to consider his improved status in the org!

Like everyone else, I am looking forward to most likely seeing him in Columbus in the second half and possibly breaking through for an opportunity with the big club next season.

 

[Out of the Rafters at the Q]

So, are wo going to do anything about this troll sooner, or wait for it to be so bad that we can't ignore it any longer?

 

[sportscoach]

The room spends a disproportionate amount of time, energy, and posts propping up guys like Jordan Luplow and minimizing every accomplishment of guys like Bradley and Gonzalez. Those are facts. You want us to interpret those facts as suggesting the room isn't rooting against Bradley and Gonzalez, at worst, or is ambivalent towards them, at best? That seems a stretch bub.

Let's keep things on topic. Do you see Gonzalez's dramatically improved walk numbers this year as a sign that his prospect status within the organization should be re-evaluated?

NO ONE IS AGAINST Oscar Gonzalez at all.... Or Bradley, or anyone else currently in the minors or on the roster. (We were against Bauers, but we had a legit gripe why)... Trust me, we want someone to step up and take RF away from everyone and be an All-Star, we just aren't putting any faith/money on that being Oscar Gonzalez... That's the part you aren't getting. We aren't against the kid, but saying we don't expect much from him pros wise and we are gladly willing to be wrong if he can prove us wrong...

 

[macbdog]

All it takes is one hole...and MLB pitchers will find it and abuse it.

Micky Callaway too apparently.

 

[Out of the Rafters at the Q]

NO ONE IS AGAINST Oscar Gonzalez at all.... Or Bradley, or anyone else currently in the minors or on the roster. (We were against Bauers, but we had a legit gripe why)... Trust me, we want someone to step up and take RF away from everyone and be an All-Star, we just aren't putting any faith/money on that being Oscar Gonzalez... That's the part you aren't getting. We aren't against the kid, but saying we don't expect much from him pros wise and we are gladly willing to be wrong if he can prove us wrong...

I'll go a step further--I don't even have Oscar written off or anything. There is one thing he has to work on--handling breaking pitches. If he does that, he could be special.

Until he does that, however, he shouldn't be sniffing the majors--no matter how good he is at hitting minor league fastballs.

 

[BimboColesHair]

Micky Callaway too apparently.

MLB pitchers *and MLB pitching coaches*

 

[macbdog]

The room spends a disproportionate amount of time, energy, and posts propping up guys like Jordan Luplow and minimizing every accomplishment of guys like Bradley and Gonzalez. Those are facts. You want us to interpret those facts as suggesting the room isn't rooting against Bradley and Gonzalez, at worst, or is ambivalent towards them, at best? That seems a stretch bub.

Let's keep things on topic. Do you see Gonzalez's dramatically improved walk numbers this year as a sign that his prospect status within the organization should be re-evaluated?

You aren't going to change their minds, Dicky, and it doesn't really matter because no one here makes the decision on whether these guys progress or not. Just keep rooting for Oscar and don't feel silenced by those here who resort to labels and passive aggressive attacks for expressing your opinion. Oscar will show if he has it or not, and it will be up to the org to give him his shot or let some other team do it.

 

[AZ_]

I can tell that you are ecstatic about Gonzalez's development and anxious to consider his improved status in the org!

If the requirement is a level of fake optimism around every prospect like this, you’re going to be disappointed every time.

You’re going to have to deal with tempered expectations sometimes, I’m sorry if that comes at the expense of your need for blind optimism on prospect you like.