New TV Series to watch

[KI4MVP]

Wish they'd leave it alone instead of tarnishing it like this.

From the preview, it looks terrible.

Original had one of the funniest scenes I've ever seen. Absolutely brilliant

 

[inliner311]

Frasier is back (soon)

I don't understand why they didn't put it on broadcast tv then just had it stream on paramount+ after. If there was a show that could bring in alot of the older views who watch broadcast tv it would be Frasier.

Also I don't think there has been any hit streaming sitcoms while there are still sitcoms being in viewer on broadcast. Sitcoms also do well on syndication which they will be reluctant to do if it's on paramount+.

 

[KI4MVP]

I don't understand why they didn't put it on broadcast tv then just had it stream on paramount+ after. If there was a show that could bring in alot of the older views who watch broadcast tv it would be Frasier.

Also I don't think there has been any hit streaming sitcoms while there are still sitcoms being in viewer on broadcast. Sitcoms also do well on syndication which they will be reluctant to do if it's on paramount+.

they want to draw people into paramount plus to watch it and to watch the original. Same strategy they use with the Star Trek franchise where Paramount plus is home to the old shows and the new ones.

 

[inliner311]

they want to draw people into paramount plus to watch it and to watch the original. Same strategy they use with the Star Trek franchise where Paramount plus is home to the old shows and the new ones.

Right but sitcoms are associated with broadcast TV and people don't view it as appointment or event tv. They view it as something you put on to kill time, not a reason to pay for a streaming service. It's why peacock had a real hard time gaining customers in the beginning, they thought they could put all these sitcom like shows on peacock and people would subscribe. They basically cancelled all those shows because it didn't bring in viewers.

Sitcoms really need the older model to be profitable. First airing on broadcast, streaming and syndication/reruns. I don't think there has been a hit streaming only sitcom, so many get cancelled after a season or two.

 

[southernflyer]

After watching both series of Utopia, I am disappointed that both the original UK series (two 5 episode seasons instead of three) and US on Amazon (one 8 episode season in 2020 instead of two) never finished.

 

[Tonedef75]

I don’t know if it belongs in the anime thread, but since I never watched the actual anime or read the manga, and it’s live action it belongs here, but I found season 1 of One Piece on Netflix to being extremely entertaining. All 8 episodes made it feel like you were watching a live action version of an anime show. As some one who never watched said anime, I have no idea how accurate the live action is to it but you got the entire gist of every single one of the main characters in just those few episodes. I can not recommend it enough if you’re looking for a show with a little bit of everything that you can just sit and enjoy.

 

[inliner311]

Emily Hampshire on Celebrity Jeopardy was really funny to watch. She is Stevie from Schitt's Creek but how she decided to dress made her hard to recognize. She was one of the most ill prepared contestants I've ever seen. It was from start to finish just a complete disaster.

 

[Ohio]

 

[chrisrich91]

Just started Gen V on Prime. A spin-off in the universe of The Boys.

First episode was good. I just love the style of The Boys and its spin-offs. Pure nasty, over-the-top entertainment.

 

[-Akronite-]

(I had nowhere else to put these thoughts so why not.)

As a big Frasier fan, decided to give the revival a shot. Did not like what I was hearing about the story decisions but wanted to try to put that to the side and see how the show is. As many have noted, David Hyde Pierce meant so much to the original run, but the man didn't want to come back (understandably) so the show must go on I guess. I've only watched the first episode which had to explain a lot about the current state of things, so it could improve as they find their footing, but it's pretty bad to start.

Kelsey Grammar is still Frasier, although they could have used some more high society snobbish references to give him something to chew on. Unfortunately, the rest of the cast feels like they are floundering around him. You have:

-New Freddy, who doesn't feel smart like young Freddy nor tough like a Boston firefighter. He's just... guy.
-David, the son of Niles who acts more like Rodney Banks from that Mixed Doubles episode. DHP was a master physical comedian and they introduce this character by having him try to carry a large piece of luggage unsuccessfully. A fine set up, but there was no pay off, it was just kinda awkward.
-Eve, Freddy's single mother friend who's also an actor (but they didn't find a good one to play her... sorry).
-Alan, the over-it tenured professor who has some potential as a straight man to Frasier.
-Harvard lady, who is weird and off-putting.

Things I would've done differently:

• Set it in Chicago or back in Seattle. Going back to Boston feels... off. Cheers FELT like Boston, this show just feels like brightly lit sitcom #25487.
• Switch Freddy and David's characters. We already knew Freddy and he was played by a good actor who went on to do a part on Mad Men. Instead of a reverse Martin situation where now Frasier lives with his blue collar son, make that David's role. He's a blank slate who's half Moon anyway! Then you could still do the odd couple cousins thing and the Frasier-Freddy relationship could be more akin to Frasier-Niles instead of Martin (nobody in this cast seems like a normal person the way John Mahoney did, so there isn't enough contrast to hoity toity Frasier). They went out of their way to create strain in their relationship, when you could've dug in to the fact that Frasier spent Freddy's childhood on the other side of the country. It's right there.
• They have a storyline that Harvard lady NEEDS Frasier to teach at Harvard to prop up their Psych department... Why? Frasier is set up as a former talk show host, not a brilliant researcher. Is Harvard worried about their med school because they haven't reeled in Dr. Oz? How about instead you set things at a smaller college. She could kind of play a Dean Pelton on Community role where she's desperate to make a name for her little school in a town with Harvard & MIT. This would also give us something to LIKE about her. As is, she's a wound-tight Harvard staffer who's oddly obsessed with Frasier, with no funny lines.
• Make Frasier miserable! His Dad just died, he's recently divorced, and he just seems fine with his life in the new show. Why are we telling this story? Well, it could be an inflection point in his life where he needs to make a change because he's lost everything he built (maybe he gets fired from the TV show or... something!) Instead he takes the Harvard job and stays in Boston because he wants to force Freddy to live with him. If you're gonna do that, maybe put Freddy into more dire straits than being a firefighter? Why isn't the baby his? At least that would give Frasier a reason to think Freddy needs more direction & support in his life.
• Find some other deal for Eve. At the end of the reboot pilot, she's living rent free across the hall. So what's the point? I assume she'll still be a regular but there's no real reason to have her in the story if it's not Freddy's kid and she's not Freddy's GF or even roommate anymore.

Hopefully with the exposition out of the way they can get some better jokes in and let them breathe. The pacing was especially forced.

 

[Criznit]

(I had nowhere else to put these thoughts so why not.)

As a big Frasier fan, decided to give the revival a shot. Did not like what I was hearing about the story decisions but wanted to try to put that to the side and see how the show is. As many have noted, David Hyde Pierce meant so much to the original run, but the man didn't want to come back (understandably) so the show must go on I guess. I've only watched the first episode which had to explain a lot about the current state of things, so it could improve as they find their footing, but it's pretty bad to start.

Kelsey Grammar is still Frasier, although they could have used some more high society snobbish references to give him something to chew on. Unfortunately, the rest of the cast feels like they are floundering around him. You have:

-New Freddy, who doesn't feel smart like young Freddy nor tough like a Boston firefighter. He's just... guy.
-David, the son of Niles who acts more like Rodney Banks from that Mixed Doubles episode. DHP was a master physical comedian and they introduce this character by having him try to carry a large piece of luggage unsuccessfully. A fine set up, but there was no pay off, it was just kinda awkward.
-Eve, Freddy's single mother friend who's also an actor (but they didn't find a good one to play her... sorry).
-Alan, the over-it tenured professor who has some potential as a straight man to Frasier.
-Harvard lady, who is weird and off-putting.

Things I would've done differently:

• Set it in Chicago or back in Seattle. Going back to Boston feels... off. Cheers FELT like Boston, this show just feels like brightly lit sitcom #25487.
• Switch Freddy and David's characters. We already knew Freddy and he was played by a good actor who went on to do a part on Mad Men. Instead of a reverse Martin situation where now Frasier lives with his blue collar son, make that David's role. He's a blank slate who's half Moon anyway! Then you could still do the odd couple cousins thing and the Frasier-Freddy relationship could be more akin to Frasier-Niles instead of Martin (nobody in this cast seems like a normal person the way John Mahoney did, so there isn't enough contrast to hoity toity Frasier). They went out of their way to create strain in their relationship, when you could've dug in to the fact that Frasier spent Freddy's childhood on the other side of the country. It's right there.
• They have a storyline that Harvard lady NEEDS Frasier to teach at Harvard to prop up their Psych department... Why? Frasier is set up as a former talk show host, not a brilliant researcher. Is Harvard worried about their med school because they haven't reeled in Dr. Oz? How about instead you set things at a smaller college. She could kind of play a Dean Pelton on Community role where she's desperate to make a name for her little school in a town with Harvard & MIT. This would also give us something to LIKE about her. As is, she's a wound-tight Harvard staffer who's oddly obsessed with Frasier, with no funny lines.
• Make Frasier miserable! His Dad just died, he's recently divorced, and he just seems fine with his life in the new show. Why are we telling this story? Well, it could be an inflection point in his life where he needs to make a change because he's lost everything he built (maybe he gets fired from the TV show or... something!) Instead he takes the Harvard job and stays in Boston because he wants to force Freddy to live with him. If you're gonna do that, maybe put Freddy into more dire straits than being a firefighter? Why isn't the baby his? At least that would give Frasier a reason to think Freddy needs more direction & support in his life.
• Find some other deal for Eve. At the end of the reboot pilot, she's living rent free across the hall. So what's the point? I assume she'll still be a regular but there's no real reason to have her in the story if it's not Freddy's kid and she's not Freddy's GF or even roommate anymore.

Hopefully with the exposition out of the way they can get some better jokes in and let them breathe. The pacing was especially forced.

I'll need to see it before judging, but going "back" to Boston seemed a bad decision. Should've sent him to Maine or to the midwest...

A Frasier is the "burbs" or in a small town... Might have been a better direction.

 

[inliner311]

(I had nowhere else to put these thoughts so why not.)

As a big Frasier fan, decided to give the revival a shot. Did not like what I was hearing about the story decisions but wanted to try to put that to the side and see how the show is. As many have noted, David Hyde Pierce meant so much to the original run, but the man didn't want to come back (understandably) so the show must go on I guess. I've only watched the first episode which had to explain a lot about the current state of things, so it could improve as they find their footing, but it's pretty bad to start.

Kelsey Grammar is still Frasier, although they could have used some more high society snobbish references to give him something to chew on. Unfortunately, the rest of the cast feels like they are floundering around him. You have:

-New Freddy, who doesn't feel smart like young Freddy nor tough like a Boston firefighter. He's just... guy.
-David, the son of Niles who acts more like Rodney Banks from that Mixed Doubles episode. DHP was a master physical comedian and they introduce this character by having him try to carry a large piece of luggage unsuccessfully. A fine set up, but there was no pay off, it was just kinda awkward.
-Eve, Freddy's single mother friend who's also an actor (but they didn't find a good one to play her... sorry).
-Alan, the over-it tenured professor who has some potential as a straight man to Frasier.
-Harvard lady, who is weird and off-putting.

Things I would've done differently:

• Set it in Chicago or back in Seattle. Going back to Boston feels... off. Cheers FELT like Boston, this show just feels like brightly lit sitcom #25487.
• Switch Freddy and David's characters. We already knew Freddy and he was played by a good actor who went on to do a part on Mad Men. Instead of a reverse Martin situation where now Frasier lives with his blue collar son, make that David's role. He's a blank slate who's half Moon anyway! Then you could still do the odd couple cousins thing and the Frasier-Freddy relationship could be more akin to Frasier-Niles instead of Martin (nobody in this cast seems like a normal person the way John Mahoney did, so there isn't enough contrast to hoity toity Frasier). They went out of their way to create strain in their relationship, when you could've dug in to the fact that Frasier spent Freddy's childhood on the other side of the country. It's right there.
• They have a storyline that Harvard lady NEEDS Frasier to teach at Harvard to prop up their Psych department... Why? Frasier is set up as a former talk show host, not a brilliant researcher. Is Harvard worried about their med school because they haven't reeled in Dr. Oz? How about instead you set things at a smaller college. She could kind of play a Dean Pelton on Community role where she's desperate to make a name for her little school in a town with Harvard & MIT. This would also give us something to LIKE about her. As is, she's a wound-tight Harvard staffer who's oddly obsessed with Frasier, with no funny lines.
• Make Frasier miserable! His Dad just died, he's recently divorced, and he just seems fine with his life in the new show. Why are we telling this story? Well, it could be an inflection point in his life where he needs to make a change because he's lost everything he built (maybe he gets fired from the TV show or... something!) Instead he takes the Harvard job and stays in Boston because he wants to force Freddy to live with him. If you're gonna do that, maybe put Freddy into more dire straits than being a firefighter? Why isn't the baby his? At least that would give Frasier a reason to think Freddy needs more direction & support in his life.
• Find some other deal for Eve. At the end of the reboot pilot, she's living rent free across the hall. So what's the point? I assume she'll still be a regular but there's no real reason to have her in the story if it's not Freddy's kid and she's not Freddy's GF or even roommate anymore.

Hopefully with the exposition out of the way they can get some better jokes in and let them breathe. The pacing was especially forced.

So I watched both episodes and to me it felt like they dropped Frasier into another random show. Neither episodes were good and felt poorly written.

I remember some writers talking about how with sitcoms and some TV shows they could gauge the audience as the show aired and make adjustments on the fly when things were on linear tv and that gave them a better chance of succeeding. The timeline between airing and writing the next episode was only a couple episodes lag. Now with streaming they hold a show until everything is finish before releasing. Frasier might take a second season to make adjustments.

 

[David.]

Fall of the house of usher was really good. I've binged it twice now. Wish I hadn't thought it was some shit about usher when it came out, would have been great on halloween

 

[MirORich]

Looking for a new show to binge, 3-5 seasons, series complete or near completion.

For reference, my top 5:
Black Sails
Twin Peaks
The Wire
BSG
The Leftovers

Open to most anything buyer not really looking for pure comedy at the moment.

Help a brother out

 

[KI4MVP]

Looking for a new show to binge, 3-5 seasons, series complete or near completion.

For reference, my top 5:
Black Sails
Twin Peaks
The Wire
BSG
The Leftovers

Open to most anything buyer not really looking for pure comedy at the moment.

Help a brother out

It's only 1 season, because it was designed that way, but if you haven't seen it, The Queens Gambit .