Perception of Dolans vs Attendance

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Like it or not there is a huge distrust of the Dolans in Cleveland and public perception image. A lot of people here say they would spend more if they had better attendance, but I think it's the exact opposite. People will attend more if the public perception wasn't so awful. Signing the marque free agent (again, I want to reiterate this isn't one of those 300 million dollar contracts, this is not a back breaking deal) of this class would send a strong message

Just go for it
 
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I know I'm going to get lit up for this but I absolutely hate how this is the mindset fans of small market teams in the MLB have adapted to.

We are talking about platooning players as being somehow better than adding one of the best middle of the lineup hitters in the league at (what is rumored to be) a pretty cheap deal for a league leader one rbis

Now if you want to argue the importance of the draft pick, fine. But you're fooling yourself if you think any platoon we can throw out there is going to match EE's production

And like it or not there is a huge distrust of the Dolans in Cleveland and public perception image. A lot of people here say they would spend more if they had better attendance, but I think it's the exact opposite. People will attend more if the public perception wasn't so awful. Signing the marque free agent (again, I want to reiterate this isn't one of those 300 million dollar contracts, this is not a back breaking deal) of this class would send a strong message

Just go for it
If people still aren't going to games because of the old Dolan rhetoric, then they're just morons.

Attendance is low because this isn't a baseball town. I can't believe some still can't accept that, and want to blame the Dolans.

PS I'm all for signing EE to a 3 year deal
 
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If people still aren't going to games because of the old Dolan rhetoric, then they're just morons.

Attendance is low because this isn't a baseball town. I can't believe some still can't accept that, and want to blame the Dolans.

PS I'm all for signing EE to a 3 year deal
Was it a baseball town when we sold out 455 consecutive games?
 

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No, it was a noted football town with no football team and a shiny baseball team to watch.
Right. The 8 Sunday's a year the Browns play in Cleveland with horrendous attendance of actual browns fans is the reason Progressive gets such poor attendance

It was all so obvious
 

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No, it was a noted football town with no football team and a shiny baseball team to watch.
On top of the Browns not even existing during most of the the sellout streak as several others have noted, that was pre-LeBron when the Cavaliers were as moribund of an NBA franchise as you'd ever see.

Plus there were some lean John Cooper led Ohio State years mixed in there as well.
 

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Do you guys seriously think there isn't s rift between fans and ownership?

And that's great you think they're morons D-wreck. Doesn't change the fact that they aren't going.

This town would have significantly better attendance if they had a different owner and the same exact team.

The Dolans have burned a lot of bridges with the "morons"
 

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Do you guys seriously think there isn't s rift between fans and ownership?

And that's great you think they're morons D-wreck. Doesn't change the fact that they aren't going.

This town would have significantly better attendance if they had a different owner and the same exact team.

The Dolans have burned a lot of bridges with the "morons"
Case in point as to why I will keep on saying the Dolan's will never be able to win with a certain group of people...no matter what they do.
 

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All it takes is one post not wanting a move to be made for it to turn into a Dolan's/attendance argument.
You're blowing up about nothing.

It was a clear as day joke to Bill. it even received funny ratings!

Bill if you were offended by my comment I appologize. I completely disagree with you on the platooning and I think ee is the opportune signing you said can help teams like the Indians.
 

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You're blowing up about nothing. #broken is right.

It was a clear as day joke to Bill. it even received funny ratings!

Bill if you were offended by my comment I appologize. I completely disagree with you on the platooning and I think ee is the opportune signing you said can help teams like the Indians.
Even if it was a joke, just tired about the same Dolan shit being dredged out any chance it can get by certain posters in here.

When is the last time it provided something useful to talk about? When has it never ended with me, AZ, Mo, and others getting mad, and you, Real Deal, Mar, Jig, Saget saying "just a joke don't take it so seriously"...and then Chris coming in and saying the thread sucks...

Also, if its a joke, those jokes haven't been funny for years...learn some new material. Watch some Showtime at the Apollo or something and come back with something new.
 

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I'm sick of every Indians thread turning into an attendance/Dolan thread.

So here you go. The perception of the Dolans vs attendance.

Anything attendance related, this is your place. If your sick of the talk, stay out. If you want to talk about it, feel free to do so in this thread only.
 

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I have high hopes for this thread

I think it can compete with the chief wahoo thread
 

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I don't think the fact that we now have a minor league team on the Westside, Eastside and Southside leeching off the Tribe's 90's success is helping matters. Those 3 teams had about 700,000? in combined attendance last season.

I have some friends that live in Avon, they take their kids to Crushers games several times a month. His kids aren't old enough to care and it's a fraction of the price. If the Crushers weren't there, he'd be going to see the Tribe a couple times a month. There's people on the East Side and in the Akron area doing the same thing.

In the 90's when we were streaking, we had a lot less competition. Due to the success of the 90's we had minor league teams crash the party and they are stealing baseball ticket sales from the Indians. Then factor in the Lebron/Cavs wild success over the last 13 years. Even the Monsters are a great value to take your family to for a sporting event, they averaged 3rd most in the league at almost 9,000 per game. Last but not least, the Cleveland economy took a brutal hit since the Indians streak. There's only so much money to be spread around...and there's a lot more teams than there were back then to choose from.

The Dolan's take way to much heat...
 

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I'm going to be fascinated by this discussion in 2017. But for now, I really am of the belief this just isn't a baseball town. If our attendance doesn't pick up at least some next season, though, I'll be disappointed.
 

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