Pryor OUT at OSU

[afireinside7710]

this is what we get from a kid from PA

 

[Triumph36]

"Not everybody's the perfect person in the world. I mean everyone kills people, murders people, steals from you, steals from me, whatever."

e: lollll

ESPN's Outside the Lines: Terrelle Pryor made $20,000-$40,000 autographing memorabilia, according to a former friend who witnessed it.

http://twitter.com/#!/MKimESPNAmerica/status/78260918198353921

 

[Believeland-OH]

Well at least they can't take away our 2002 National Championship.

It's still troubling that one play taking money can cost the other 100 players on the team a National Championship. They should just erase the 1 player from the record book if they can prove the coach didn't know. If the coach knew then I think taking away the title is more realistic. I feel bad for all the players that played by the rules.

 

[Sea]

dude was a great athlete, but had a raisin for a brain

 

[CavsRules]

He could make an impact in the NFL as a WR/TE

His best bet if he wants to play in the NFL, but I think he should consider playing basketball.

He's gifted enough to make the NBA in my opinion, just depends on his ability to improve his weaknesses in the game.

Just stay the hell away from the Cavs..

 

[Bob_The_Cat]

Well at least they can't take away our 2002 National Championship.

It's still troubling that one play taking money can cost the other 100 players on the team a National Championship. They should just erase the 1 player from the record book if they can prove the coach didn't know. If the coach knew then I think taking away the title is more realistic. I feel bad for all the players that played by the rules.

Novel concept but it's impossible to draw that line. I mean USC had an extremely talented team, but would you honestly be able to say they would have won the NC without Heisman trophy winner Reggie Bush? Same can be said about OSU. They wouldn't have been playing in the Sugar Bowl had all those guys been suspended the first 5 games of last year.

 

[The Voice]

Not sure that Ohio State is using Pryor as a cover up? Pryor chose to leave, the University didn't declare him ineligible.

Ohio State is taking blame as well. They basically forced Tressel into resignation and seems that they are cooperating very well with the investigation.

Why haven't the president and AD resigned as well? They knew about everything and you can't convince me otherwise.

Well at least they can't take away our 2002 National Championship.

It's still troubling that one play taking money can cost the other 100 players on the team a National Championship. They should just erase the 1 player from the record book if they can prove the coach didn't know. If the coach knew then I think taking away the title is more realistic. I feel bad for all the players that played by the rules.

If any of them witnessed Pryor making money and didn't report it, they broke the rules. It's as simple as that and after reading Smalls comments on twitter. I don't believe for a second that there was many of them not making money or being favored in some way, shape or form.

 

[Believeland-OH]

Novel concept but it's impossible to draw that line. I mean USC had an extremely talented team, but would you honestly be able to say they would have won the NC without Heisman trophy winner Reggie Bush? Same can be said about OSU. They wouldn't have been playing in the Sugar Bowl had all those guys been suspended the first 5 games of last year.

To me it's more of not punishing those that played by the rules. The line now is already objective and clearly will never be fully enforced. Out of the 120 D1 schools how many do you think really have a team of 100% non-rule breakers? The NCAA can only go after so much and of course some students will be much smarter at covering up their mistakes.

It is just a shame that one bad apple can ruin the whole teams accomplishments. Sure a lot of them get scholarships; some don't, but they are all out there working hard all year to better themselves and their team. Then one player comes along and all of their accomplishments are gone. I doubt they hunt down Championship rings, but one day when they pass those rings down their grandchildren will have a ring of a game that "never" happened. I just don't like the idea of taking away entire games from the record book. Individual awards, stats, and accolades are understandable. Will looking at the BCS winners go from 2003 to 2005 be less strange then looking at the stats and saying wow they had barely any rushing yards; I don't think so.

Taking away the BCS title could finally be the game the brings the lawsuit a lot of people have been waiting for. Which is a class action suit by fans who attended the game; paid to see a game, and are now told the game they saw never happened. I think it would at least be an interesting case that would get the nation talking; doubt it would change the NCAA's mind.

I'm also curious about the lost scholarships. I felt bad for the players that were going to lose their scholarships because of Reggie Bush and felt that he should have started a fund to pay for those kids that lost out on a chance of a free education because of him. Does anyone know if the scholarships lost are just redistributed to other male sports. If not then it would be a Title IX violation and students could sue the NCAA as they would be forcing the school to break a congressional law.

 

[calleger]

COLUMBUS -- Terrelle Pryor, who announced through his attorney Tuesday that he would bypass his senior season at Ohio State, made thousands of dollars autographing memorabilia in 2009-10, a former friend who says he witnessed the transactions has told "Outside the Lines."

The signings for cash, which would be a violation of NCAA rules, occurred a minimum of 35 to 40 times, netting Pryor anywhere from $20,000 to $40,000 that year, the former friend says. The source spoke to ESPN under the condition that his face not be aired on TV and that his name not be published.

He said Pryor was paid $500 to $1,000 each time he signed mini football helmets and other gear for a Columbus businessman and freelance photographer, Dennis Talbott. Talbott twice denied to ESPN that he ever paid Pryor or any other active Buckeye athlete to sign memorabilia. He said last week he has only worked with former players to set up signings. On Tuesday evening, he declined to comment whether he had ever operated a sports memorabilia business and said he was not an Ohio State booster.

Pryor's former friend also told "Outside the Lines" that the player often received preferential treatment in the Columbus community, receiving thousands of dollars in free food at local restaurants and convenience stores, free drinks at bars and free tattoos. In addition, he said the quarterback had access to free loaner cars from local dealerships. The source said he spent nearly every day with Pryor before their relationship soured when Pryor began taking on a more "arrogant" attitude after his 2009-10 season.

He said Pryor would get the merchandise to sign from Talbott, who would "bring it to TP, and he would sign it and he would bring him cash. Dennis would give him cash." He said he witnessed the transactions occur about three to four times a week at Pryor's apartment.

The former friend said Pryor would spend his money lavishly at times, that the player had a "shoe fetish" and bought many expensive hats, belts and pieces of jewelry. He said he was particularly fond of Gucci items. ESPN independently confirmed Pryor made multiple such purchases.

Pryor's attorney, Larry James, denied the allegations against his client.

Pryor may not have been the first active Buckeye player to collect cash for signatures from Talbott. The parent of one former Ohio State player told "Outside the Lines" that he saw Talbott provide what he called "stacks of money" to active Buckeye players, including a player now in the NFL.

Pryor's former friend said he was wary of Talbott: "He's the type of person that ... I think he really took advantage over TP because he was that person, and he would bring him, he would bring TP like memorabilia to sell for other people. So Dennis is not a good guy for college athletes. That's the guy you really don't want to be around."

Talbott, 40, shot photos of the major sports teams in Ohio, including Ohio State and the Cincinnati Bengals, as a freelance photographer. He has sold images to ESPN.com in the past.

On Tuesday, he denied that he ever received game tickets from players, though records from Ohio State show that he and his wife were on a player's will-call ticket list multiple times throughout the 2008 season. When asked about those records, Talbott said he couldn't remember if he had received such tickets.

According to public websites, Talbott claims to have earned an undergraduate degree from Kent State University and later attended Ohio State briefly.

He has managed or owned staffing and employment recruiting businesses over the last decade, though a search of public records reveals a series of liens and financial judgments against him. The most substantial include an Internal Revenue Service lien filed in 2009 for $278,875 in unpaid federal taxes, followed by a state of Ohio tax lien in 2010 for $74,227.

The latest news about Pryor comes just eight days after Buckeyes coach Jim Tressell was forced to resign for not reporting information he'd received about players receiving improper benefits.

Pryor's career at Ohio State, which started with so much promise and potential, came to an abrupt and scandal-ridden end Tuesday evening, when he announced through his attorney that he would not play for the Buckeyes this season. He had already been suspended for the first five games for breaking NCAA rules by accepting improper benefits from the owner of a tattoo parlor.

"In the best interests of my teammates, I've made the decision to forgo my senior year of football at The Ohio State University," Pryor said in a statement issued by James.

James said entering the next NFL supplemental draft is Pryor's "desire." But James acknowledged labor uncertainty could lead to consideration of the Canadian Football League or working with a personal quarterback coach first.

Tom Farrey is a reporter for Outside the Lines and Justine Garber is a producer in ESPN's enterprise unit. ESPN.com investigative reporters Mike Fish and Paula Lavigne and the Associated Press contributed to this report

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6637444&campaign=rss&source=ESPNUHeadlines

 

[SixPACK]

I could give one fuck.

Bring on Braxton Miller.

 

[Chris]

I could give one fuck.

Bring on Braxton Miller.

Pretty much my opinion as a soon-to-be-alum.

 

[Hurl Bruce]

I love how ESPN gets their info from crooks, drug addicts and deadbeats.

I also love how it is some sort of newsflash that football players get things like free drinks at bars. OH MY GOD!!! THOSE KIDS DON"T PAY THE COVER CHARGE!!!!

 

[Lee]

When i first read Pryor out at OSU, I was thinking the OP was referring to the closet. :chuckles:

 

[Lee]

I love how ESPN gets their info from crooks, drug addicts and deadbeats.

I also love how it is some sort of newsflash that football players get things like free drinks at bars. OH MY GOD!!! THOSE KIDS DON"T PAY THE COVER CHARGE!!!!

When the only people Pryor associated with are crooks, drug addicts and deadbeats, ESPN has no choice but to use them for sources. Defend OSU if you want, but really stop trying to defend this asshat. Pryor is a real piece of shit.

 

[Maximus]

I love how ESPN gets their info from crooks, drug addicts and deadbeats.

I also love how it is some sort of newsflash that football players get things like free drinks at bars. OH MY GOD!!! THOSE KIDS DON"T PAY THE COVER CHARGE!!!!

When players are getting stacks of cash, it usually doesn't come from Police Chiefs, grandmothers, heads of charities or any other upstanding citizens. It usually comes from crooks and sleezeball businessmen. That's why they are the ones getting quoted.

This isn't about free drinks or cover charges and you know it. It's pretty obvious Pryor was getting free cars to use...he got 3 traffic tickets in 3 DIFFERENT "LOANER CARS", what are the freaking odds of that? Now there are accusations of stacks of cash from Talbott for autographs? I'm guessing that's going to come out as being true too.

On Tuesday, he denied that he ever received game tickets from players, though records from Ohio State show that he and his wife were on a player's will-call ticket list multiple times throughout the 2008 season. When asked about those records, Talbott said he couldn't remember if he had received such tickets.

Ok. :chuckles: