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It would not shock me at all if Delly takes a cheap deal this off-season as third point guard simply because he helps the young players so much, but if he leaves the Cavs I believe his next stop will be back in Australia playing in the NBL. While his athleticism might be falling off for NBA standards, he played over 30 minutes a game as a Australia National Team guard last summer.

After his playing days end? He should be a Cavs coach just because the franchise and city absolutely love him. No coach would get a longer leash than Delly, and I've long maintained he has been one of our best coaches while playing many times in his Cavaliers career.
 
Delly is pretty hurt physically if i were to guess
 
I was definitely responding to people saying he is going to be the 3rd guard or fit well with Sexton/Garland. I don't see it.

Delly also has a broken 3 pt shot, but I still think he has more to offer than Exum.

I think the organization is better served by trying to develop someone like Exum vs keep giving Delly minutes. Like alot of people have pointed out, Delly looks like he is on a decline and its questionable how much longer he will be in the NBA. There is no long term value in Delly for the Cavs and I doubt he has any value other than a expiring contract.

If Exum can give as much as Delly has by the trade deadline, it will be much easier to let Delly go.

I do think Exum should have to compete for that #3 guard spot and Knight should actually get the first shot at filling in for the majority of Clarkson's minutes. Knight could add value as a player to pair with his expiring contract and I don't think it would take long for him to maximize that value if he is finally truly healthy. I'm not sure what the organization thinks of Mckinnie but a package of Knight and Mckinnie could shore up a teams bench in one trade.
 
I think the organization is better served by trying to develop someone like Exum vs keep giving Delly minutes. Like alot of people have pointed out, Delly looks like he is on a decline and its questionable how much longer he will be in the NBA. There is no long term value in Delly for the Cavs and I doubt he has any value other than a expiring contract.

If Exum can give as much as Delly has by the trade deadline, it will be much easier to let Delly go.

I do think Exum should have to compete for that #3 guard spot and Knight should actually get the first shot at filling in for the majority of Clarkson's minutes. Knight could add value as a player to pair with his expiring contract and I don't think it would take long for him to maximize that value if he is finally truly healthy. I'm not sure what the organization thinks of Mckinnie but a package of Knight and Mckinnie could shore up a teams bench in one trade.
Delly does really well getting guys involved and in the right positions. If Exum or Knight can do that, then great. But I feel like the young guys will really miss having a coach on the floor like Delly.
 
I think the organization is better served by trying to develop someone like Exum vs keep giving Delly minutes. Like alot of people have pointed out, Delly looks like he is on a decline and its questionable how much longer he will be in the NBA. There is no long term value in Delly for the Cavs and I doubt he has any value other than a expiring contract.

If Exum can give as much as Delly has by the trade deadline, it will be much easier to let Delly go.

I do think Exum should have to compete for that #3 guard spot and Knight should actually get the first shot at filling in for the majority of Clarkson's minutes. Knight could add value as a player to pair with his expiring contract and I don't think it would take long for him to maximize that value if he is finally truly healthy. I'm not sure what the organization thinks of Mckinnie but a package of Knight and Mckinnie could shore up a teams bench in one trade.
I have always felt Knights contract is untradeable and we will likely let it run it’s course. It is more expensive than Clarksons, he doesn’t have a niche role like Clarkson to offer a team and it’s a weak free agent class to be creating cap room for
 
I have always felt Knights contract is untradeable and we will likely let it run it’s course. It is more expensive than Clarksons, he doesn’t have a niche role like Clarkson to offer a team and it’s a weak free agent class to be creating cap room for
Only way I see knight bringing anything back is a throw in for salary purposes.
 
I have always felt Knights contract is untradeable and we will likely let it run it’s course. It is more expensive than Clarksons, he doesn’t have a niche role like Clarkson to offer a team and it’s a weak free agent class to be creating cap room for

I think if Knight can get back to being a double digits scorer, his value is at least the same if not better than Clarkson. I don't think a team would flinch at the idea of Knight fully operating their second unit or slotting into the being a starting guard for a extending period for a injured player.

I think Knight is a easier player to fit in to a team while like you said Clarkson is a niche player. Utah took on Clarkson because they are second to last in bench scoring. That was the type of team I fully expected he would go to. Knight on the other hand I could see a team that needs a #3 guard trade for him especially if they have injuries or under performing players. I could see a team deciding to take on Knight like the Bucks took on George Hill last year. If Knight plays well for them, he will get a smaller contract with that same team.

A weak free agent class might reduce the amount of suitors but teams will still look to dump injured and underperforming players. There are teams that are always trying to improve their rotation and players making 7-15 million will be out there to help that. I just don't think teams will be looking to make a huge splash with a star free agent. Teams still have to keep their stars happy and try to improve their playoff chances in the off-season.
 
I think the organization is better served by trying to develop someone like Exum vs keep giving Delly minutes. Like alot of people have pointed out, Delly looks like he is on a decline and its questionable how much longer he will be in the NBA. There is no long term value in Delly for the Cavs and I doubt he has any value other than a expiring contract.

If Exum can give as much as Delly has by the trade deadline, it will be much easier to let Delly go.

I do think Exum should have to compete for that #3 guard spot and Knight should actually get the first shot at filling in for the majority of Clarkson's minutes. Knight could add value as a player to pair with his expiring contract and I don't think it would take long for him to maximize that value if he is finally truly healthy. I'm not sure what the organization thinks of Mckinnie but a package of Knight and Mckinnie could shore up a teams bench in one trade.

Yes if he can help organize the young guys, then maybe he has a role.

3 games of 7 or greater assists in 3 years has me very skeptical. Just looked through his game logs. Very few games with more than 2 assists.

Yeah he is younger than Delly, but I have seen every player play better with Delly including LeBron.

I don't mind this as a reclamation move, I just think Exum has almost 0 value as a player. This I think Delly provides more as a mentor
 
Yes if he can help organize the young guys, then maybe he has a role.

3 games of 7 or greater assists in 3 years has me very skeptical. Just looked through his game logs. Very few games with more than 2 assists.

Yeah he is younger than Delly, but I have seen every player play better with Delly including LeBron.

I don't mind this as a reclamation move, I just think Exum has almost 0 value as a player. This I think Delly provides more as a mentor

It's just too early to make statements like this. Look, I see why Delly puts up box score numbers that hurt my eyes, has moments where he looks slower on defense than he used to, and still gets minutes. Everything you say about his influence on the floor is correct, he still makes the young players better when he is on the floor. Dude should have his brain transplanted into Thon Maker's body and wreck this league.

However, I personally believe Exum's untapped potential is a major reason the Cavaliers pulled the trigger on this deal now, despite the lack of a late first rounder included. This is a great situation for Exum to grow as a player, and honestly Delly on the roster is a part of this reclamation project.
 
Doesn’t Exum kind of suck?

I don't know if this will work, but Exum's situation in Utah was pretty tough given where he was coming from and the kind of leash most Top 5 picks have with the franchise that selected them.

Don't get me wrong, there is obviously no way he should've been taken 5th overall, even taking into consideration that relatively weak 2014 draft class. So, you have an extremely raw kid coming from Australia with the weight of expectation on his shoulders.

The nice thing about being young/raw and on a team that finished 25-57 and is outside of major markets, though, is that it should've given Dante plenty of time and freedom in the NBA shadows to work on this game and craft an offensive skillset. Instead, he was unknowingly at the time drafted on a team not far from being playoff caliber. In seasons where he was available to play in Utah, they were under .500 only once and that was his rookie season (38-44). Unsurprisingly, that was the season he got the most run with the Jazz (22 minutes per game and nearly 30 mpg in the last third of the regular season).

When you're dealing with a guy as raw and unaccustomed to American basketball and the caliber of the NBA as Exum, he really needed several of those kind of unencumbered developmental years where he was the focus or one of the primary focuses of the franchise looking to the future. He was that level of raw.

What ended up happening was this ... he had the lackluster rookie year where the attempts at developing his game were at least starting, he was getting more minutes as the season waned and showing real potential as a defender. The Jazz were assuming his 2nd year would see him start to break some bad habits offensively and take a little bit of a leap from a dismal offensive player to a serviceable offensive player with potential for more. Instead, the worst possible thing happened ... in the summer following his rookie year he tore his ACL while playing an exhibition game with the Australian national team.

That meant he was out the entire 2015-16 season. The Jazz finished 40-42 playing in a tough division/conference, and it was clear something was brewing with their young core of Hayward, Gobert, Favors and even Rodney Hood was seen as a serious talent with a high ceiling. Suddenly, those guys are the focus of the Jazz's training staff and Exum is sort of the forgotten man.

In 2016-17, what was actually Exum's 2nd season as a pro and as he was still getting his legs back from missing an entire season and rehabbing from injury, the Jazz won 51 games and made the 2nd round of the playoffs. Even without the injury, he was never going to be developed enough at 21 years old to be a major contributor on one of the best 4 teams in the West. That is before you get into the torn ACL and lost chance at developing during that year.

They had a VERY deep roster too that he had to fight for minutes with ... on the perimeter, you had Gordon Hayward, George Hill (probably peak Hill), Joe Ingles, Rodney Hood, Joe Johnson, Shelvin Mack and Alec Burks. On some other teams, maybe you can change course on Exum's development and go with less ballhandling in smallish lineups just to fit him somewhere on the court. They did some of that, but they also had Gobert and Favors in the frontcourt and those guys obviously had to play. And again, they probably do the developmental stuff if they weren't already a contender in the West, but there they were.


So then Hayward leaves and people in Utah think they're going into a rebuilding situation where Exum might finally start approaching his potential with a patient development ... and in steps Donovan Mitchell. I mean, the fact that they drafted Mitchell and, maybe more to the point, signed Ricky Rubio was Utah admitting its error in taking Exum but I still say he has never been given a proper chance to develop like our young guys currently are.

The Jazz being so good so soon after taking him and then his ill-timed injury crushed any chance of him having a career in Utah.




Will it work out here? I would bet against it. I actually like some of the stuff Exum brings to the table especially in comparison with Clarkson. They're almost polar opposites. Exum is quiet and unassuming with a focus on defense and trying to chip in where he can in other areas. Clarkson is an arrogant horse's ass who can light it up when his shot is falling but does nothing to help develop our young guys.

In a situation like the one we are in, give me the unassuming Aussie, pair him up with fellow kangaroo in Delly to help acclimate him, give him a fair shot to develop something resembling an offensive game and have him as a not-so-subtle hint to our three young lottery picks that things can go really badly really fast if you don't take advantage of every opportunity.


The picks, cap space and exception serve as the icing on the proverbial cake. The fact that I never again have to see Jordan Clarkson dribbling 20x on one side of the court while the other 4 guys stand on the otherside watching him... that makes it a la mode.
 
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Yes if he can help organize the young guys, then maybe he has a role.

3 games of 7 or greater assists in 3 years has me very skeptical. Just looked through his game logs. Very few games with more than 2 assists.

Yeah he is younger than Delly, but I have seen every player play better with Delly including LeBron.

I don't mind this as a reclamation move, I just think Exum has almost 0 value as a player. This I think Delly provides more as a mentor

While I don't like per 36 for alot of stuff, in this instance it might be worth bring up since Exum has played such limited minutes and has been injured so much. Last year and the year before his per 36 assists would have been 6.0 and 6.6 respectively. Delly career per 36 assists is 6.4.
 
While I don't like per 36 for alot of stuff, in this instance it might be worth bring up since Exum has played such limited minutes and has been injured so much. Last year and the year before his per 36 assists would have been 6.0 and 6.6 respectively. Delly career per 36 assists is 6.4.

This is like my only hope here. Coming into the season, he had only played 3900 minutes total. That's only around 400 more than Collin Sexton has played so far.

Still when you read about his weaknesses:

Turning it over
Not knowing what he wants to do and getting too deep
No outside shot
No real change of pace
Needs the ball in his hands

He mostly sounds like a worse Sexton who also can't shoot or score.

JB is supposed to be a guard whisperer. I like what he has done with Garland and KPJ. I'm usually more optimistic than most, so I will for sure give this kid a chance. I see their are mitigating factors, but I don't see him getting healthy, and unless the Beilein ball cures his shooting weakness I can't see him being a serious piece.
 
I don't know if this will work, but Exum's situation in Utah was pretty tough given where he was coming from and the kind of leash most Top 5 picks have with the franchise that selected them.

Don't get me wrong, there is obviously no way he should've been taken 5th overall, even taking into consideration that relatively weak 2014 draft class. So, you have an extremely raw kid coming from Australia with the weight of expectation on his shoulders.

The nice thing about being young/raw and on a team that finished 25-57 and is outside of major markets, though, is that it should've given Dante plenty of time and freedom in the NBA shadows to work on this game and craft an offensive skillset. Instead, he was unknowingly at the time drafted on a team not far from being playoff caliber. In seasons where he was allegable to play in Utah, they were under .500 only once and that was his rookie season (38-44). Unsurprisingly, that was the season he got the most run with the Jazz (22 minutes per game and nearly 30 mpg in the last third of the regular season).

When you're dealing with a guy as raw and unaccustomed to American basketball and the caliber of the NBA as Exum, he really needed several of those kind of unencumbered developmental years where he was the focus or one of the primary focuses of the franchise looking to the future. He was that level of raw.

What ended up happening was this ... he had the lackluster rookie year where the attempts at developing his game were at least starting, he was getting more minutes as the season waned and showing real potential as a defender. The Jazz were assuming his 2nd year would see him start to break some bad habits offensively and take a little bit of a leap from a dismal offensive player to a serviceable offensive player with potential for more. Instead, the worst possible thing happened ... in the summer following his rookie year he tore his ACL while playing an exhibition game with the Australian national team.

That meant he was out the entire 2015-16 season. The Jazz finished 40-42 playing in a tough division/conference, and it was clear something was brewing with their young core of Hayward, Gobert, Favors and even Rodney Hood was seen as a serious talent with a high ceiling. Suddenly, those guys are the focus of the Jazz's training staff and Exum is sort of the forgotten man.

In 2016-17, what was actually Exum's 2nd season as a pro and as he was still getting his legs back from missing an entire season and rehabbing from injury, the Jazz won 51 games and made the 2nd round of the playoffs. Even without the injury, he was never going to be developed enough at 21 years old to be a major contributor on one of the best 4 teams in the West. That is before you get into the torn ACL and lost chance at developing during that year.

They had a VERY deep roster too that he had to fight for minutes with ... on the perimeter, you had Gordon Hayward, George Hill (probably peak Hill), Joe Ingles, Rodney Hood, Joe Johnson, Shelvin Mack and Alec Burks. On some other teams, maybe you can change course on Exum's development and go with less ballhandling in smallish lineups just to fit him somewhere on the court. They did some of that, but they also had Gobert and Favors in the frontcourt and those guys obviously had to play. And again, they probably do the developmental stuff if they weren't already a contender in the West, but there they were.


So then Hayward leaves and people in Utah think they're going into a rebuilding situation where Exum might finally start approaching his potential with a patient development ... and in steps Donovan Mitchell. I mean, the fact that they drafted Mitchell and, maybe more to the point, signed Ricky Rubio was Utah admitting its error in taking Exum but I still say he has never been given a proper chance to develop like our young guys currently are.

The Jazz being so good so soon after taking him and then his ill-timed injury crushed any chance of him having a career in Utah.




Will it work out here? I would bet against it. I actually like some of the stuff Exum brings to the table especially in comparison with Clarkson. They're almost polar opposites. Exum is quiet and unassuming with a focus on defense and trying to chip in where he can in other areas. Clarkson is an arrogant horse's ass who can light it up when his shot is falling but does nothing to help develop our young guys.

In a situation like the one we are in, give me the unassuming Aussie, pair him up with fellow kangaroo in Delly to help acclimate him, give him a fair shot to develop something resembling an offensive game and have him as a not-so-subtle hint to our three young lottery picks that things can go really badly really fast if you don't take advantage of every opportunity.


The picks, cap space and exception serve as the icing on the proverbial cake. The fact that I never again have to see Jordan Clarkson dribbling 20x on one side of the court while the other 4 guys stand on the otherside watching him... that makes it a la mode.

This was an immensely thoughtful post. I can say nothing against it.
 
This is like my only hope here. Coming into the season, he had only played 3900 minutes total. That's only around 400 more than Collin Sexton has played so far.

Still when you read about his weaknesses:

Turning it over
Not knowing what he wants to do and getting too deep
No outside shot
No real change of pace
Needs the ball in his hands

He mostly sounds like a worse Sexton who also can't shoot or score.

JB is supposed to be a guard whisperer. I like what he has done with Garland and KPJ. I'm usually more optimistic than most, so I will for sure give this kid a chance. I see their are mitigating factors, but I don't see him getting healthy, and unless the Beilein ball cures his shooting weakness I can't see him being a serious piece.

Craziest thing is how young Exum still is. He's only a month older then Kendrick Nunn. His role should be defensive stopper and maybe facilitator next to Sexton. Play Exum and Sexton together and keep Garland and KPJ together since they already have chemistry.

As for his turnover issues at least his are from trying to pass the ball. Exum averaged 3.1 APG in just 17 MPG in 17 and 2.6 in 16 MPG last season. 17 was a small sample size but the 2.6 per last year in 42 games was more then Sexton is getting right now in half the minutes. So he's better then Sexton as a facilitator which is something we need. He can create for others.

The truth of the matter is with Exum when you look at his draft profile from 14 it says he was a enigma because no one knew what he could do. Fast forward six years later and people are still asking that same question. I doubt he works out. He has some real negatives and is made of glass. But you never know. Other teams get guys and it clicks once they move on. Maybe we get lucky this time. We are due for some luck.
 
Danny Leroux of The Athletic has a column that breaks it down in detail.


"Clarkson has been a superior player this season but does not make sense occupying a temporary high-usage role for a developing team."

Leroux also compared Exum to another high draft pick who has floundered due to health/injury issues.

"Unlike with most elite prospects who fail to meet expectations during their first half-decade in the league, there are still reasons to believe the Aussie can become a useful, productive player because his issues are primarily health-related. Intriguingly, the theory behind an Exum resurgence could parallel a point guard taken three years later who has battled his own woes. The current Markelle Fultz is not the player the 76ers dreamed he would be in 2017, but his dynamic physical tools have allowed him to create in transition and be a part of a stifling defense, which has been a significant positive for the Magic. If a healthier Exum can become even Fultz Lite on the Cavs’ second unit or potentially the starting five, it could be huge for a franchise looking for depth and a defensive identity."

I don't know if a "Fultz Lite" would be "huge" for the Cavs, but there's no doubt they need a defender who can at least slow down the bigger, more skilled guards the Cavs face like Hayward, Giannis, Harden, and Ben Simmons, all of whom have torched the Cavs already this year.

To sum it up...

"Exum is just 24 years old, so it’s far too early to close the book on someone with his physical tools. The Cavs are well-situated to utilize a version of Exum who plays off-ball in the half court and defends both guard positions, as that meshes well with Collin Sexton and Darius Garland in a potential three-prospect-guard rotation....Exum is a worthy gamble, especially with the comparatively low opportunity cost given their contract structure."

It appears Exum will get consistent minutes in Cleveland, unlike Utah. The emphasis here is on patient player development, which is what he needs, along with staying healthy. Maybe over the next 130 games the Cavs can make something useful out of him.
 

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