The 2021 Cleveland Baseball Organization

[DJTJ]

I can probably give them slowly. Start where we should, the beginning. It is not a secret, Jake Bauers was not well liked by about 97% of the organization from the top all the way down to the player lot parking attendants.

First impressions are key. Yandy was well liked by the Latin American group of players (Lindor, Ramirez, Perez, Encarnacion, etc.) so right off the bat he had a lot of ground to make up as he was the return for a well liked guy and a well liked older guy in Encarnacion. Every position player but 2 reported early to ST that year (about 5 days before the official report date). 1 was a guy who I believe just had a kid, that I'm struggling to remember right now. The other was Bauers. Strike one.

He also had a habit of referring to himself in the 1st person when he was first acquired. Definitely a bit of youth shining through on that one (he was only 23 that season), but most of the 1st person references he made in the clubhouse had to do with what he was doing after the game, which I am sure you can figure out what they were about. Strike 2.

The one that tipped the scales for him the most early on was a prominent and well respected veteran on the team at the time that I won't name offered to take him under his wing, travel with him on the road, hit with him in the cages, sit next to him in the dugout to tell him what he's seeing, etc. to try and help him as much as possible. This was done as a suggestion brought to Tito by the veteran player because he noticed Bauers work habits were not quite at the professional level. Bauers cold-shouldered the vet. Strike 3, and it wasn't until most of the roster was purged that he finally grew close to some guys. No one wanted to be near him year 1.

Entirely unsurprising. There’s very clear glimmers of talent, but he seems like a major bonehead.

I can only assume it was CarGo or Kip that offered.

 

[mopete12]

Alright...

Who wants the details on the Bauers dynamic with the team, coaching staff, advance scouts, front office, all of Cleveland, and the media, specifically Tom Hamilton.

I’ve been waiting for this info since you hinted at it in spring training!

 

[Obscured By Clouds]

I can probably give them slowly. Start where we should, the beginning. It is not a secret, Jake Bauers was not well liked by about 97% of the organization from the top all the way down to the player lot parking attendants.

First impressions are key. Yandy was well liked by the Latin American group of players (Lindor, Ramirez, Perez, Encarnacion, etc.) so right off the bat he had a lot of ground to make up as he was the return for a well liked guy and a well liked older guy in Encarnacion. Every position player but 2 reported early to ST that year (about 5 days before the official report date). 1 was a guy who I believe just had a kid, that I'm struggling to remember right now. The other was Bauers. Strike one.

He also had a habit of referring to himself in the 3rd person when he was first acquired. Definitely a bit of youth shining through on that one (he was only 23 that season), but most of the 3rd person references he made in the clubhouse had to do with what he was doing after the game, which I am sure you can figure out what they were about. Strike 2.

The one that tipped the scales for him the most early on was a prominent and well respected veteran on the team at the time that I won't name offered to take him under his wing, travel with him on the road, hit with him in the cages, sit next to him in the dugout to tell him what he's seeing, etc. to try and help him as much as possible. This was done as a suggestion brought to Tito by the veteran player because he noticed Bauers work habits were not quite at the professional level. Bauers cold-shouldered the vet. Strike 3, and it wasn't until most of the roster was purged that he finally grew close to some guys. No one wanted to be near him year 1.

You forgot what specifically with Tom!

 

[Out of the Rafters at the Q]

Entirely unsurprising. There’s very clear glimmers of talent, but he seems like a major bonehead.

I can only assume it was CarGo or Kip that offered.

Most likely.

Carlos and Freeman would've been decent options too.

God, I'd love for someone to leak a video of Bauers saying "Jake Bauers is gonna go smash chicks" online.

 

[Benway]

Bauers clearly suffers from high self-esteem.

 

[BimboColesHair]

You forgot what specifically with Tom!

That's coming. There's a lot of shit here, way too much to post all at once.

Next I'll do his infamous end of the season meeting with Tito, the development staff, and the front office.

 

[kriegs]

Super gulp

 

[Criznit]

I didn't have any evidence other than some in game interactions, but I got the definite impression Bieber did not like Jake Bauers at all..

 

[Obscured By Clouds]

Super gulp

 

[Criznit]

Well shit.. What else can you say?

 

[BimboColesHair]

Yeah. Typically a 4-6 week deal.

Just so everyone is aware. Shane Bieber is not a sticky stuff user. I know the conversation was taking place on the board earlier about his spin rate, but he doesn't use anything and never has.

 

[jup]

Well shit.. What else can you say?

Little pitching factory has another little pitching problem.

And the time frame Bimbo lists is pretty good - 2 weeks not throwing and he can probably ramp back up in 2 weeks, 4 weeks out. But if it goes a little longer, the ramp up will be more like 3 weeks and the stint is going to be more like 6weeks.

So the rotation is going to be without him for awhile.

 

[jup]

Yeah. Typically a 4-6 week deal.

Just so everyone is aware. Shane Bieber is not a sticky stuff user. I know the conversation was taking place on the board earlier about his spin rate, but he doesn't use anything and never has.

Not what I am told by others that do/have pitch(ed) with him, but I haven't got it from Biebs mouth directly so you could be right. And not what some of the FO folks that handle pitchers have told me either.

 

[thestatman]

Zxavien Curry...you're up, kid. Whatcha got?

 

[Gson]

Little pitching factory has another little pitching problem.

And the time frame Bimbo lists is pretty good - 2 weeks not throwing and he can probably ramp back up in 2 weeks, 4 weeks out. But if it goes a little longer, the ramp up will be more like 3 weeks and the stint is going to be more like 6weeks.

So the rotation is going to be without him for awhile.

General rule of thumb.. the number of weeks a starting pitcher is down/can't throw.. is the amount of time it will take to get him back to where he was at...

...and he has to be 100 %.. a shoulder issue is always a question w/r to the actual injury and the time table for return...