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My guess with Cedi: He would probably like to get into a different system. As a mediocre defender and good open court player, the Cavs style really doesn't help him. But, at his age and contract situation, what he probably wants most is a chance to play enough minutes to entice someone into another solid contract. If he stays in Cleveland, he probably gets more of what he's gotten and gets an offer similar to what he has. Not bad by any means, but I suspect he believes he can do better. If his people can find him a roster spot somewhere else that looks like he has a good chance for regular minutes, I think that would be his preference. He would be easily tradable at his current salary and age, but I think the Cavs will guarantee him for another year. It hard to see getting a much better player for the same dollars.

Now that Love is gone we don’t have another scoring option off the bench in the frontcourt. We either bring him back or get a frontcourt scorer (or both). I don’t think it makes sense to just let him go as our roster has to many passengers. Maybe he can be traded if we guarantee him for next season.
 
My guess with Cedi: He would probably like to get into a different system. As a mediocre defender and good open court player, the Cavs style really doesn't help him. But, at his age and contract situation, what he probably wants most is a chance to play enough minutes to entice someone into another solid contract. If he stays in Cleveland, he probably gets more of what he's gotten and gets an offer similar to what he has. Not bad by any means, but I suspect he believes he can do better. If his people can find him a roster spot somewhere else that looks like he has a good chance for regular minutes, I think that would be his preference. He would be easily tradable at his current salary and age, but I think the Cavs will guarantee him for another year. It hard to see getting a much better player for the same dollars.
Unless he goes to a really bad team, and maybe even then, Cedi is guaranteed neither more minutes nor more money. If he goes to a team like last year's Rockets where defense is an afterthought, and there's very little in terms of offensive structure, then he can get better counting stats, but most NBA teams are going to recognize that won't translate to winning basketball.
 
Cedi tried to leave the Cavs last offseason.

The Cavs tried to trade Cedi multiple times throughout the season.

While his option might well be picked up, reading the tea leaves, Cedi ultimately would be happier elsewhere and the Cavs would be happy to have him elsewhere. I imagine both sides will explore all of those options and then just stick together for convenience if the market for Cedi remains soft.
 
So you have a problem with Koby and not JBB?
You frame your questions in a weird manner…(and yes, you failed to respond in English to the other topic)

I don’t have a problem with either… I like Koby’s aggression and fearless way of going for it… Yes, I would have preferred a move at the deadline — I don’t understand really making a big splash last summer and not maximizing what you could with that roster last season…

That said, the depth on this team is poor. The front court was a nice nostalgic feel, but the novelty has worn off and that front court (as currently constructed) will never help lead the team to the ultimate prize…Clear as day!

In terms of JBB — I do truly believe in building a foundation and culture…Many of these coaches inherit quality rosters and get credit for their success without really growing from the ground up.

JBB has the opportunity to get better at his craft— to surround himself with other members who can aid in his development as well.

2 seasons ago he had a roster that surprised the league — last season he coached a team that won 50 or so games — I would like to see what he can do with a PF who hopefully takes his game to the next level and a bench that provides more depth all the while keeping the core in tact. (And yes that unfortunately means keeping JA/Evan together— with hopefully down the road moving JA to the bench)

But building off that and taking the natural steps of progression..
 
You frame your questions in a weird manner…(and yes, you failed to respond in English to the other topic)

I don’t have a problem with either… I like Koby’s aggression and fearless way of going for it… Yes, I would have preferred a move at the deadline — I don’t understand really making a big splash last summer and not maximizing what you could with that roster last season…

That said, the depth on this team is poor. The front court was a nice nostalgic feel, but the novelty has worn off and that front court (as currently constructed) will never help lead the team to the ultimate prize…Clear as day!

In terms of JBB — I do truly believe in building a foundation and culture…Many of these coaches inherit quality rosters and get credit for their success without really growing from the ground up.

JBB has the opportunity to get better at his craft— to surround himself with other members who can aid in his development as well.

2 seasons ago he had a roster that surprised the league — last season he coached a team that won 50 or so games — I would like to see what he can do with a PF who hopefully takes his game to the next level and a bench that provides more depth all the while keeping the core in tact. (And yes that unfortunately means keeping JA/Evan together— with hopefully down the road moving JA to the bench)

But building off that and taking the natural steps of progression..

In general, while I questioned some of Koby’s early decisions, it’s like people completely forget the Cavs won 22 games just two seasons ago. The Cavs are now a winning team, and that is ultimately more important to most young players development than getting unlimited opportunities and minutes on shitty teams. Learning how to win reveals weaknesses a lot quicker than losing all the time.

There’s depth problems, but it’s nothing that can’t be addressed. It just wasn’t going to happen in one offseason. If anything big happens this year, I’m guessing it’s Allen getting traded mid-season. Otherwise (as you said) I anticipate Koby giving the ‘Core 4’ a second full season together before making any big move.

In the past two seasons the Cavs have made the playoffs, won 50+ games, had a All-NBA 2ND teamer, three All-Stars, and a guy that probably should’ve won DPOY and made 1st Team All-NBA Defense. Again, this is a team that had won 22 games just two years ago. No one would’ve images this was possible at that point in time.

I think there’s a lot of people caught up on needing an All-Star at SF when all the Cavs really need right now is a serviceable player that can start, shoot, and hopefully play some small ball 4. If we can get that, a little added depth, and improvement from Mobley, this should be a much better team than last season.

Cavs also spent a lot of time messing around with LeVert trying to find his role last year. Assuming the Cavs can find a serviceable SF, LeVert should be significantly more comfortable in his role this year. I’d expect him to be much better to start the year when he knows his role and understands how he needs to play off Garland and Mitchell.
 
Can cavs have a chance with CP3?
Perfect off the bench playmaker. Will do wonders with Mobley.

 
See just a few seasons ago Monty Williams was the coach of the year and CP3 was leading the Suns to a 2-1 NBA FINALS lead
 
Chris and LeBron finally get to play together?

Probably. Memphis would be low key a great spot with a Morant suspension likely coming.

I think a lot of teams are going to kick the tires, depending on what he’s asking for. Maybe he reunites with Harden in Houston? That shit would be wild.
 
Chris and LeBron finally get to play together?
Paul wants a title, I think he takes a pay cut and tries to latch on to the Lakers. No, they aren't a great title contender, but no team really is a shoo in right now. Tinseltown wins out.
 
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