Tondo's 2023 Top 100 Guardians prospects

[Tondo]

Hello, since FG and other sites are soon going to release their Guardians system list, I wanted to put mine out there. Writeups will follow, but for now, just rough Tier listings and current FV grades (and ceiling FV in brackets)

FV 55 (Top 20-40 ovr)
1 SS Rocchio (60)
2 SS A. Martinez (60)

FV 50 (Top 100ish)
3 RHP Espino (65)
4 RHP G. Williams (60)
5 RHP Bibee (55)
6 OF Valera (55)

FV 45+
7 CF Brennan (50)
8 C Bo Naylor (55)
9 OF/1B Noel (55)
10 2B Brito (55)
11 2B Freeman (50)

FV 45
12 2B/CF Fox (50)
13 INF Arias (55)
14 INF Tena (55)
15 RHP Morris (50)
16 LHP L. Allen (50)
17 LHP Cantillo (50)
18 RHP Campbell (55)
19 CF Delauter (50)
20 CF Chourio (60)
21 CF Halpin (50)

FV 40+
22 CF Benson (45+)
23 C Lavastida (45)
24 INF J. Benjamin (50)
25 LHP P. Messick (50)

FV 40
26 C J. Cedeno (50)
27 C M. Mejias (50)
28 C V. Izturis (50)
29 CF C. Kokx (45+)
30 CF I. Greene (45+)
30+ 1B/3B M. Collado (45)
31 3B G. Rodriguez (45)
32 CF J. Lampe (45)
33 2B A. Genao (45)
34 RHP D. Sharpe (45)
35 RHP J. Leftwich (45)
36 RHP E. Hankins (50)
37 RHP H. Gaddis (45)
38 RHP X. Curry (45)
39 LHR T. Herrin (45)
40 LHP D. Nikhazy (45)
41 LHP W. Dion (40+)
42 RHP A. Davenport (40+)
43 RHP T. Burns (40+)
44 RHP P. Battenfield (40+)
45 INF D. Frias (40+)

FV 35+
46 LHP R. Webb (45)
47 2B N. Furman (45)
48 OF A. Planez (45)
49 OF J. Rodriguez (45)
50 RHP J. Zibin (45)
51 1B J. Naranjo (40+)
52 OF J. Burgos (40+)
53 RHP D. Delucia (40+)
54 RHP R. Carver (40+)
55 LHP R. Boone (40+)
56 CF G. Lipscomb (40+)
57 INF C. Cairo (40+)
58 INF M. Tolentino (40+)
59 1B M. Pries (40+)
60 RHP H. Stanley (40+)
61 LHR A. Misiaszek (40+)
62 RHR N. Mikolajchak (40+)
63 RHP T. Denholm (40+)
64 RHP T. Mace (40+)
65 RHR M. Hickman (40+)

Best of the rest later...

 

[bob2the2nd]

Martinez seems way high. Just curious why you have him up there?

 

[Gson]

Martinez seems way high. Just curious why you have him up there?

I can offer..he deserves to be..

 

[CDAV45]

Martinez seems way high. Just curious why you have him up there?

It's been mentioned that some in the organization think he is the best position prospect in the system. I cannot confirm or deny that, but I do recall seeing it on this forum. I think it was also mentioned trying to get him some reps in CF.

 

[sportscoach]

It's been mentioned that some in the organization think he is the best position prospect in the system. I cannot confirm or deny that, but I do recall seeing it on this forum. I think it was also mentioned trying to get him some reps in CF.

Someone posted that he could be the best of the MIF prospects in the end and Grover on BTV, always is like, I have to get Martinez if Cleveland and A's make a deal. Martinez has a fan club and being a switch hitter could really help in the end.

 

[sportscoach]

Does anyone have baseball America subscription?

 

[Gson]

Does anyone have baseball America subscription?

Thousands of people do, coach...

 

[CDAV45]

Someone posted that he could be the best of the MIF prospects in the end and Grover on BTV, always is like, I have to get Martinez if Cleveland and A's make a deal. Martinez has a fan club and being a switch hitter could really help in the end.

No, I recall him being mentioned as the best positional prospect in the system like I said before. I can't take a stance on that claim because I just don't know, and yes Grover loves him.

 

[Out of the Rafters at the Q]

No, I recall him being mentioned as the best positional prospect in the system like I said before. I can't take a stance on that claim because I just don't know, and yes Grover loves him.

I think it was more of "He could be" than "He is."

Angel has the potential to be the best MIF prospect in the organization, but you'd be hard pressed to find someone putting him ahead of Rocchio today.

 

[sportscoach]

Thousands of people do, coach...

Does anyone here though? They released their top prospect list, so I was wondering if someone could share it...

 

[Tondo]

Forgot to rank 1B/3B Maick Collado, he's edited into the list now around 30th ovr.

Teenage Helium

LHP J. Humphries
RHP E. Hernandez
RHP A. Aldeano
RHP Y. Gomez
RHP J. Santos
CF W. Antunez (20yo)
C R. Lopez
CF L. Durango

This group has more young talents worth following. Antunez is an IFA late bloomer, probably missed a year to injury, but he demolished AZL and kept hitting in A Ball, similar to J. Burgos a year ago, but even more promising. Aldeano was a DSL All Star, Evelio Hernandez one of the better young arms in DSL. Humphries had a lot of draft helium and got 600K to sign. Lopez and Durango were prominent IFA signings that got aggressive assignments, but struggled.

AAAA ok

3B/Util D. Fry
RHP K. Marman
RHP C. Smith
RHP T. Benton
RHP A. Abney
LHP A. Scott

This is your annual upper minors depth bucket. One or two could always end up surprising as role players like A. Call and K. McCarty (and Tully) last season. Marman and Benton have the best arm talent and upside, Smith the most consistent, Abney a low slot look reliever type. Any of them could make it as middle reliever.

Post Hype Periphery

RHP J. Wolf
RHP L. Torres
INF R. Delgado
SS Y. Valdes
INF C. Tucker
2B A. Bracho
1B J. Sanquintin
INF J. Pastrano

Well, the group name says it all. Almost all of these prospects got 1+M to sign. They're all young enough to get back on the map, but also one more dud season of getting washed out of the system entirely. Gabriel Rodriguez did the former last season, Q. Holmes the latter. Ray Delgado had somewhat of a quiet breakout year and could be a late bloomer if he performs as 23yo in AA/AAA.

Lost in translation

C R. Paz
C/1B V. Planchart
C M. Ramirez
OF L. Saduy
OF C. Idrogo
RHP V. Soteldo
RHP E. Jerez
RHP H. Villalobos
RHP A. Richardson
RHP W. Vasquez

These guys are all still varying degrees of interesting for me. They don't have eye popping stats, but most did quite well or ok and most did so at young age/level. The reason they're not ranked is that they're all still buried in the lower levels and running out of org control time (think Fermin/R. Burgos las year). I still believe in Planchart as a legit bat, but have no clue if his defense is playable at C.

Recent Draft Depth

RHP J. Jasiak
RHP M. Ellerts
RHP A. Peterson
RHP F. Aleman
RHP J. Miller
RHP R. Johnston
RHP Z. Pettway
RHP T. Thornton
RHP G. Rivera
CF P. Cavenaugh
OF A. Zarate
C L. Clark
INF T. Turner
LHP A Tulloch
LHP S. Rapp
RHP Z. Jacobs

Really love how much value CLEFO got out of day 3 of the past two drafts. Usually a couple of this depth group ends up as legit prospects fairly soon like Kokx, Sharpe, Dion, Leftwich. Especially like Jasiak and Peterson of this group. Jasiak was an injury discount, would have been your typical Guardians mid rd pick (Bibee, Gaddis, Curry etc) if not for injury in his draft year. Peterson is a bit older, but just a consistent college performer (like H. Stanley, N. Enright). Cavenaugh had some mid round hype after a good Cape showing, good buy low flyer. Ellerts and G. Rivera two noteworthy JuCo darts and even mixed in a lotto HS C in Logun Clark.

 

[KluberSociety]

Martinez seems way high. Just curious why you have him up there?

I actually really like the position player ranking (Rocchio > Martinez > Valera/Naylor) but above Espino and Williams seems excessive. I'd personally have Espino and maybe Williams above everyone including Rocchio though. This would mean Martinez is top 5 (fighting with Bibee) but not #2...

 

[CDAV45]

I think it was more of "He could be" than "He is."

Angel has the potential to be the best MIF prospect in the organization, but you'd be hard pressed to find someone putting him ahead of Rocchio today.

Depending on who you ask yes, he could be. I do understand that he isn't the defensive SS that Brayan is for sure.

 

[CDAV45]

I actually really like the position player ranking (Rocchio > Martinez > Valera/Naylor) but above Espino and Williams seems excessive. I'd personally have Espino and maybe Williams above everyone including Rocchio though. This would mean Martinez is top 5 (fighting with Bibee) but not #2...

We have no position players that should be ranked ahead of Espino, Williams and Bibee at this time. I wish we did, but we don't. Certainly not Rocchio or Valera after their 2022 campaigns.

 

[Tondo]

If you compare Rocchio/Martinez age/level performance and overall track record to Espino/Williams/Bibee, it's hard for me to justify ranking them behind the pitchers. The same posters who slept on Gimenez (who I had no1 after the trade) are the one's not recognizing Rocchio's talent. Brayan is a Gim clone, and he's got a more advanced approach (improved BB/K from 0.3 to over 0.5 from 2021 to 2022).

Williams is a year older and had 4ish FIP/xFIP in AA, hardly dominating. Espino pitched 18 innings. They're all great talents, but in a coin toss I'll always rank hitting prospects higher than pitchers