We're going to Disney World -- NBA plans to reopen for an abbreviated play-in - playoffs season

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The bubble is probably the best solution for right now. I just wonder what they do going into next season if the goal is to start in December. It's the question I think I have for all sports leagues. TV deals can most likely sustain all these leagues until the pandemic is over. How much risk will players be willing to take to get paid that extra money that in person fans will bring? I doubt that percentage of money will really be worth it to the majority of players for the risks.

I think in most leagues the players will push for no fans until there is a vaccine. The question will be how does college football and possible college basketball approach this. The TV exposure should be enough for them and since they don't get paid, why even risk having fans there in person. Maybe allow family and scouts. We were already in a debate if they should get paid before all of this.
I think it’s a moot point as I still don’t think college sports happen this fall or winter.

Earlier this week, Houston had to shut down workouts for all athletes after 6 students tested positive for Covid. That was just over a week after returning to campus.

The colleges and universities don’t have the resources to properly manage this especially since they have to travel. Look at OSU for example. Two of their first three games are against MAC schools. BGSU and Buffalo’s ability to deal with this will be vastly different than OSU’s solely based on financial resources. It not only has to do with travel and practice conditions, but also on campus dorm/housing precautions.
 

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Which is why Vegas for the West playoffs made a lot of sense, for all of its drawbacks; it keeps half of the teams separate, not to mention the lower humidity than Orlando means they could basically use open windows instead of A/C much of the time.
I think the NBA first looked for a place with the facilities and basketball courts instead of the housing and seclusion. Orlando and Vegas aren't secluded at all.

It wouldn't have been hard for the NBA to figure out and temporarily build the basketball courts for the bubble. They could have taken the courts from NBA teams and got some pre-fab buildings to enclosure them.

Always thought it made sense to take over some island or winter resort town that was hard to get to. Where the outside community was also pretty secluded themselves so the risk of infection would be lower if the bubble was broken by someone.
 

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...so basically the same standard for all healthcare workers in this country? Daily symptom and vitals checks, ok not testing for symptomatic people? Makes a ton of sense, frankly.
It defeats the purpose of a bubble though. Why go to all the effort to create a bubble when certain auxiliary staff will be breaking the bubble daily?

Hopefully they clear up who exactly these Disney employees that won't be tested and what their job duties will be. If it's the ground keepers and maintenance people that would make sense. Cleaners, drivers, and cooks wouldn't make sense in my mind.

The more you allow people in and out, it becomes closer to a nursing home situation. It only takes one person to bring it in and to infect others.

Also healthcare workers are trained to use PPE and to keep the chances of infection down to a minimum even before Coronavirus.
 
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It defeats the purpose of a bubble though. Why go to all the effort to create a bubble when certain auxiliary staff will be breaking the bubble daily?

Hopefully they clear up who exactly these Disney employees that won't be tested and what their job duties will be. If it's the ground keepers and maintenance people that would make sense. Cleaners, drivers, and cooks wouldn't make sense in my mind.

The more you allow people in and out, it becomes closer to a nursing home situation. It only takes one person to bring it in and to infect others.

Also healthcare workers are trained to use PPE and to keep the chances of infection down to a minimum even before Coronavirus.
The only thing here is that if the people don't interact with the players, there is very very small chance for infection. They are finding that getting the virus from a contaminated surface because someone touched or coughed on it is pretty rare.
 

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The only thing here is that if the people don't interact with the players, there is very very small chance for infection. They are finding that getting the virus from a contaminated surface because someone touched or coughed on it is pretty rare.
I'm not sure the CDC ever said it was rare but they said say it wasn't the main driver and they didn't think it happens easily. I think the wording they used was not very likely to happen.

With the amount of people the NBA is dealing with though, those unlikely percentages can creep up and happen. They will have a ton of people in the bubble like 37 people from each team then all the people the league needs, I bet they will have well over 1000 in the bubble.

I think the NBA is trying to be very cautious and I don't think they should cut corners especially how rocky it's getting with certain players talking about not going. It could all fall apart quickly even with a couple people testing positive.
 

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I'm not sure the CDC ever said it was rare but they said say it wasn't the main driver and they didn't think it happens easily. I think the wording they used was not very likely to happen.

With the amount of people the NBA is dealing with though, those unlikely percentages can creep up and happen. They will have a ton of people in the bubble like 37 people from each team then all the people the league needs, I bet they will have well over 1000 in the bubble.

I think the NBA is trying to be very cautious and I don't think they should cut corners especially how rocky it's getting with certain players talking about not going. It could all fall apart quickly even with a couple people testing positive.
I'm coming around on this simply because cases are exploding in Florida. You have to quarantine everyone or nobody. Seeing many more ways this can go sideways now
 

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I'm coming around on this simply because cases are exploding in Florida. You have to quarantine everyone or nobody. Seeing many more ways this can go sideways now
I feel like if there are holes in the bubble or the plan, players will get that much more mad if the virus gets in. The NBA should really go overboard. Going above and beyond to stop the virus from coming in should be how they approach this.

I would have staff that cleans the rooms and cooks their food inside the bubble. I would also have a buffer zone for things coming in or stuff being touched by non-bubble staff. I would have food bulk delivered and stored 3 days before being used by the cooks. I would have linens and sheets cleaned and stored in alternating areas for at least 3 days.

I'd also get rid of drivers and just have a fleet of cars for bubble people to use. Allow players to have their personal cars ship down of they want. If a fleet of cars doesn't make sense then golf carts.

Still I think Hawaii is a better solution and just quarantine everyone for 14 days. Build courts if they need to. Test everyone before flights over and allow them to bring their family.
 

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I'd also get rid of drivers and just have a fleet of cars for bubble people to use. Allow players to have their personal cars ship down of they want. If a fleet of cars doesn't make sense then golf carts.

Still I think Hawaii is a better solution and just quarantine everyone for 14 days. Build courts if they need to. Test everyone before flights over and allow them to bring their family.
The wheel-reinvention of building new courts, and new 14-day quarantining we would need to boot up a Hawaii plan would take this season into November/December if not further, unless they dropped to 8 playoff teams; we'd be talking the "2019-2021 season" possibly.

Raptors are already in FL now due to the quarantining. I think we've all settled on a "buyer beware, dude" approach; if they have a plan for Pringles, Gentry and other older coaches to work from their hotel rooms as much as possible, I think they can pull it off.
 

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