With the 14th Pick in the 2022 NBA Draft ...

[foucault87]

The Cavs have nothing of value to use to trade up.

Dylan. Windler.

 

[JJ_PR]

Been thinking about the draft a little bit. I'm obviously not a GM, but trying to figure out what's best for this team on draft night.

I've zeroed in on Branham. He passes the eye test offensively with his killer mid range game. His offensive repertoire is extensive as well. Has ties to Ohio, so it would be a smooth transition to this team.

I'd trade up for him if the price is right. He's getting some top 10 buzz (for good reason) but this draft is deep in the 8-16 range. We'll get a very good prospect regardless, but he should be the priority.

E.J. Lidell, his teammate at Ohio State, could be available in the second round. Why not try to add him to the mix? Chemistry is so important in the sport of basketball. It might take another KPJ type of package to nab him, plus the 39th pick, but it's probably worth it. Lidell has some Draymond Green in him.

Isaiah Mobley with the 59th pick would be nice, if he's there. He could have a role on this team. Injuries can happen at any time. Isaiah has legitimate talent & is a better shooter than his brother.

 

[NMCav]

Been thinking about the draft a little bit. I'm obviously not a GM, but trying to figure out what's best for this team on draft night.

I've zeroed in on Branham. He passes the eye test offensively with his killer mid range game. His offensive repertoire is extensive as well. Has ties to Ohio, so it would be a smooth transition to this team.

I'd trade up for him if the price is right. He's getting some top 10 buzz (for good reason) but this draft is deep in the 8-16 range. We'll get a very good prospect regardless, but he should be the priority.

E.J. Lidell, his teammate at Ohio State, could be available in the second round. Why not try to add him to the mix? Chemistry is so important in the sport of basketball. It might take another KPJ type of package to nab him, plus the 39th pick, but it's probably worth it. Lidell has some Draymond Green in him.

Isaiah Mobley with the 59th pick would be nice, if he's there. He could have a role on this team. Injuries can happen at any time. Isaiah has legitimate talent & is a better shooter than his brother.

Being a local product can be more harmful then helpful in some cases. Sometimes the pressure of being a local star can be too much for a kid. So being from Ohio shouldn't be be considered a plus. It could be a negative.

 

[cavsfever]

Post-combine is always such a fun time due to the buzz with no one really knowing anything.

That said, risers are real. Happens every year.

Right now, to summarize the last several days, we’ve heard multiple rumors of risers:

1) Dyson Daniels a lock to go Top 10, maybe Top 6
2) Jeremy Sochan a lock to go Top 10
3) Malaki Branham possibly to go Top 10
4) Ousmane Dieng a lock to go Top 10
5) Mark Williams a lottery lock
6) Jalen Williams getting some teens/late lottery buzz

Well, we know Chet, Jabari, Banchero, and Ivey are all Top 5 locks.

We’ve heard Sharpe’s people have not done him any favors, but we’ve also heard that his floor is #6.

So I guess, the question becomes who are the guys that things are entirely quiet on right now? And are things quiet because they may slide to make room for risers?

I’m very curious if Keegan Murray somehow starts to fall. It’s been absolutely mute on him lately. A little on the old side at 21, and there’s increasing doubt about his ability to create his own shot. That feels like a slide candidate.

If he gets to 9, 10, 11, I’d have to get very serious about aggressively moving up if I’m the Cavs. I think if you liked Jabari Smith on this team, you should also love Murray.

I actually think Keegan is as much as a SF/PF as Jayson Tatum was coming into the NBA. I think longterm he’s an NBA 3.

I’d love to get Keegan Murray, he’d fill a lot of gaps for us. SF size, good defender, 40% 3 point shooter, super efficient opportunistic scorer, great character and BBIQ, hard worker. He doesn’t answer the secondary ball handler / creator question so we’d still be stuck trying to get that from Levert or Sexton, but feels like he would be a great addition. However, I agree we don’t have the ammo to move up in this draft, and he seems incredibly unlikely to fall to 14

 

[cavsfever]

I’m curious what wing you think is going to fall to us at #14? Eason’s stock is reportedly falling and some think he could even slip to the second round. Jalen Williams seems like a reach that high. Dieng’s stock is all over the place and some believe he has a promise from OKC at #12. Most of the projected players that are around our pick are SG’s, which is not as big of a need for this team as SF obviously. If anyone falls to #14, I think it’s gonna be Johnny Davis.

Just a few days ago Eason was reportedly impressing everybody at the combine and his stock was supposedly rising, so how is it now all of a sudden falling? Where did you see that?

The Spurs reportedly interviewed Eason btw so they are looking at him - very Spurs type player, 9 seems high for him but the fact that they are considering him says something

 

[JJ_PR]

Being a local product can be more harmful then helpful in some cases. Sometimes the pressure of being a local star can be too much for a kid. So being from Ohio shouldn't be be considered a plus. It could be a negative.

It depends on how Branham embraces that pressure. If he uses it as motivation, we got a guy playing with a chip on his shoulder. I'd love to have him on this team. SG is our weakest position right now anyway.

 

[NMCav]

It depends on how Branham embraces that pressure. If he uses it as motivation, we got a guy playing with a chip on his shoulder. I'd love to have him on this team. SG is our weakest position right now anyway.

I disagree. Our weakest position is SF. I love Lauri but he ain't a SF. And Branham relying on the midrange game isn't something I like in a player in today's NBA. It's more efficient to take 3s or take it inside. Branham is far down my list of options at 14 for multiple reasons.

 

[dark2332]

I’d love to get Keegan Murray, he’d fill a lot of gaps for us. SF size, good defender, 40% 3 point shooter, super efficient opportunistic scorer, great character and BBIQ, hard worker. He doesn’t answer the secondary ball handler / creator question so we’d still be stuck trying to get that from Levert or Sexton, but feels like he would be a great addition. However, I agree we don’t have the ammo to move up in this draft, and he seems incredibly unlikely to fall to 14

It depends on how far we are trying to go.

If it’s from 14 to 10 or 11, I think we do have the ammo. Top 8? Likely not unless we’re making a huge splash.

 

[dark2332]

Just a few days ago Eason was reportedly impressing everybody at the combine and his stock was supposedly rising, so how is it now all of a sudden falling? Where did you see that?

The Spurs reportedly interviewed Eason btw so they are looking at him - very Spurs type player, 9 seems high for him but the fact that they are considering him says something

There was a lot of positive buzz about Eason post-combine due to size measurements but in the time since there have been some mixed reviews on his workouts and work ethic.

Could be a team trying to make him fall, you never know.

 

[dark2332]

The Cavs have nothing of value to use to trade up.

You guys keep saying this like it’s true, but it’s false.

The Cavs have two 2nd’s in this draft. They have LeVert and his expiring. If things got really wild, they have Okoro—though I’m not a fan of prematurely moving off him to only go up a few spots. Dean Wade has some value around the league.

Cavs have nothing of value? Our whole damn team is young talent.

 

[inliner311]

Being a local product can be more harmful then helpful in some cases. Sometimes the pressure of being a local star can be too much for a kid. So being from Ohio shouldn't be be considered a plus. It could be a negative.

It's not just the pressure of being a local star but also what they can be asked to do off the court. There are stories of NBA players that got drafted by their hometown team and they are constantly being asked for tickets, favors, and appearances. It takes away from their focus on the game.

This was apparently the case with Derrick Rose when he got drafted by the Bulls. Also it's hard for them to get the right people around them if they didn't have the best people around them when they were younger. Everyone just knows where they live and find ways to get to them.

 

[B Mac]

You guys keep saying this like it’s true, but it’s false.

The Cavs have two 2nd’s in this draft. They have LeVert and his expiring. If things got really wild, they have Okoro—though I’m not a fan of prematurely moving off him to only go up a few spots. Dean Wade has some value around the league.

Cavs have nothing of value? Our whole damn team is young talent.

Plus Gilbert’s wallet and willingness to take on bad money to obtain assets. It might not be the best option, but it’s definitely a valuable one.

Plenty of assets are available to move up if they really love a guy.

 

[AtomicDogg97]

You guys keep saying this like it’s true, but it’s false.

The Cavs have two 2nd’s in this draft. They have LeVert and his expiring. If things got really wild, they have Okoro—though I’m not a fan of prematurely moving off him to only go up a few spots. Dean Wade has some value around the league.

Cavs have nothing of value? Our whole damn team is young talent.

No NBA team is going to trade out of the top 10 of the draft for second rounders or Isaac Okoro and Dean Wade.

That is insane.

 

[dark2332]

No NBA team is going to trade out of the top 10 of the draft for second rounders or Isaac Okoro and Dean Wade.

That is insane.

You realize I’m talking about trading #14 to move to #10, right?

Or do I need to explain that to you?

And most certainly we have the assets. You fittingly leave out LeVert, whose expiring would easily get the job done if we’re taking back bad money. Not to mention LeVert still has value aside from his contract—he clearly has mid/late 1st value+ based on the deal that was just consummated this past deadline.

 

[AtomicDogg97]

You realize I’m talking about trading #14 to move to #10, right?

Or do I need to explain that to you?

And most certainly we have the assets. You fittingly leave out LeVert, whose expiring would easily get the job done if we’re taking back bad money. Not to mention LeVert still has value aside from his contract—he clearly has mid/late 1st value+ based on the deal that was just consummated this past deadline.

No NBA team is going to trade down from #10 to #14 for second round picks and Dean Wade/Isaac Okoro/Caris Levert. That is delusional. Rebuilding teams don't trade down in the NBA draft.

Teams drafting in the top 10 are rebuilding teams and would want nothing to do with a player like Caris Levert or his contract. Just because the Cavs were dumb enough to trade a first round pick and the first pick of the second round for him doesn't mean other teams value him like that. It was an awful trade for the Cavs.