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[The Human Q-Tip]

Oh... in my book the fans are the animals. I thought I made that clear with the anailogy.

I mean, gosh, you have a million dollar plus career at stake and you want to risk it by showboating in the opposing team's stands? Why can't all players celebrate like Barry Sanders?

Eh....

We don't go onto their field, they don't come into our stands to taunt us. Seems fair. I have absolutely zero issue with a fan pouring a beer on a player who chose to rub it in our collective faces by jumping into our stands. I'd have been more disappointed if someone hadn't. And it's just a freaking beer - no actual harm done to anyone, nobody got hurt.

As you say...those players are professionals getting paid during that game to entertain fans as professionals. The fans are there as customers, being sold beer that helps to pay for that stadium and the players' salaries. Who really should be held to the higher standard during games - the beer-sotted fans occupying the seats for which they paid, or the players who are getting paid to act like professionals in public for those few hours once a week?

This isn't golf, or tennis, or the Bolshoi. It's football, and if you deliberately jump into the opposing fans stands to gloat during a blowout...you're lucky a beer is all you got.

Just my personal opinion.

I also think this is not nearly as big a deal as some in the media have made it out to be. But we got crushed, it's a long time until Monday night...so why not?

 

[AZ_]

As you say...those players are professionals getting paid during that game to entertain fans as professionals. The fans are there as customers, being sold beer that helps to pay for that stadium and the players' salaries Who really should be held to the higher standard during games - the beer-sotted fans occupying the seats for which they paid, or the players who are getting paid to act like professionals in public for those few hours once a week?

Getting paid to pay a game doesn't justify it.

The fans paying for tickets doesn't justify it.

There is nothing unprofessional about celebrating a touchdown.

The fans have a responsibility to not throw things at players, or coaches. Beer-sotted or not, that is not an excuse either.


Yes, it sucks that they're paid to play a game for a living and that slapdicks pay money to see them play a game for a couple hours a week. None of that is justification for being an asshole, however.

 

[Chris]

B00bie hates the Browns since they took Mayfield, give it a rest all.

Only half joking.

 

[Sebastian]

 

[Steve_424]

I agree, but where does that line end? Should they (any players) be allowed to come in the stands and do what they want (aka. dancing/taunts)? There's a bit of common sense here and I'll side with the NBA. The players should not be going into the stands for any reason. We're also talking about a small bit of beer here. This wasn't 'Malice at the Palace'. The player's tweet paints himself as the victim when he shouldn't have been doing what he was doing in the first place. In olden times we'd expect the professionals to act like professionals.

I don't think players should go in the stands but also don't think if they do that it's open season on them.

 

[Out of the Rafters at the Q]

How hard is it to not throw things at other human beings?

Are we really debating this?

Don't hit people. Don't throw things at people. Don't endanger other people's lives. If you fail these concepts, do not pass go. Repeat first grade.

 

[AZ_]

I don't think players should go in the stands but also don't think if they do that it's open season on them.

Open season, baby.

They were “asking for it.”

 

[mrWalrus]

Getting paid to pay a game doesn't justify it.

The fans paying for tickets doesn't justify it.

There is nothing unprofessional about celebrating a touchdown.

The fans have a responsibility to not throw things at players, or coaches. Beer-sotted or not, that is not an excuse either.

Yes, it sucks that they're paid to play a game for a living and that slapdicks pay money to see them play a game for a couple hours a week. None of that is justification for being an asshole, however.

It's a message board, so you can continue to stand on this moral high ground of yours, but at some point in your life you'll have to make a decision about social discord, the correct way to act and what the consequences are for going outside of those norms and justifng it. Having blanket reasons for this and that will only get you so far. Perhaps folks are clapping for you now, but don't expect it to last.

This is a large reason why rules/laws are continuing to be made. Maybe you're correct, professionals are getting paid so much they should be allowed to disrespect the fans in any way they deem necessary. That said, nothing happens in a vacuum.

No one said the fan wasn't responsible for his actions. People did say, however, when you put yourself in certain positions you open yourself up to risks, and for those who want to equate this to some other form of the meaning, along the lines of: 'she was asking for it' you're being absurd and parroting extremes, which are not appropriate for this topic. Professionalism comes with a certain amount of decorum/etiquette. Or, in olden times, they called it respect. If that barrier goes away when, as a professional, you open yourself up to a lack of it.

 

[Steve_424]

It's a message board, so you can continue to stand on this moral high ground of yours, but at some point in your life you'll have to make a decision about social discord, the correct way to act and what the consequences are for going outside of those norms and justifng it. Having blanket reasons for this and that will only get you so far. Perhaps folks are clapping for you now, but don't expect it to last.

This is a large reason why rules/laws are continuing to be made. Maybe you're correct, professionals are getting paid so much they should be allowed to disrespect the fans in any way they deem necessary. That said, nothing happens in a vacuum.

No one said the fan wasn't responsible for his actions. People did say, however, when you put yourself in certain positions you open yourself up to risks, and for those who want to equate this to some other form of the meaning, along the lines of: 'she was asking for it' you're being absurd and parroting extremes, which are not appropriate for this topic. Professionalism comes with a certain amount of decorum/etiquette. Or, in olden times, they called it respect. If that barrier goes away when, as a professional, you open yourself up to a lack of it.

I mean...he jumped into the stands to celebrate with a Titans fan. It's not something I'd do but compared to most of what you see on Sundays in the NFL, is that really that disrespectful to Browns fans?

It's certainly not deserving of having a beer dumped on you, I know that much.

 

[AZ_]

It's a message board, so you can continue to stand on this moral high ground of yours, but at some point in your life you'll have to make a decision about social discord, the correct way to act and what the consequences are for going outside of those norms and justifng it. Having blanket reasons for this and that will only get you so far. Perhaps folks are clapping for you now, but don't expect it to last.

This is a large reason why rules/laws are continuing to be made. Maybe you're correct, professionals are getting paid so much they should be allowed to disrespect the fans in any way they deem necessary. That said, nothing happens in a vacuum.

No one said the fan wasn't responsible for his actions. People did say, however, when you put yourself in certain positions you open yourself up to risks, and for those who want to equate this to some other form of the meaning, along the lines of: 'she was asking for it' you're being absurd and parroting extremes, which are not appropriate for this topic. Professionalism comes with a certain amount of decorum/etiquette. Or, in olden times, they called it respect. If that barrier goes away when, as a professional, you open yourself up to a lack of it.

If at any point in your life, you think the “correct way to act” is pouring beer on an athlete celebrating a touchdown, justified by the thought that your ticket entitles you to do it, you’ve made the wrong decision.

No, celebrating a touchdown does not and should not subject athletes to the response. And it’s really that simple.

 

[SanduskyCav]

It's illegal to go, like, over the wall and be in the stands. Also illegal to jump into the Salvation Army kettle, thanks Zeke.

But things like the Lambeau Leap, regardless of home or road, with no malicious intent, are not illegal.

Which is why none of the Titans players were fined.

Honest question.... if at some point, an NFL player jumps into the stands and his helmet makes contact with a fan and knocks he/she unconscious....what are the repercussions?

Also...is something like this assault? ESPN and every other news station found this hilarious

 

[mrWalrus]

If at any point in your life, you think the “correct way to act” is pouring beer on an athlete celebrating a touchdown, justified by the thought that your ticket entitles you to do it, you’ve made the wrong decision.

No, celebrating a touchdown does not and should not subject athletes to the response. And it’s really that simple.

You are, like, literally, making up reasons to be upset. It's hilarious.

 

[Ohio]

I mean...he jumped into the stands to celebrate with a Titans fan.

No, he didn’t.

 

[Sebastian]

 

[AZ_]

You are, like, literally, making up reasons to be upset. It's hilarious.

I am like, literally, not upset at all.

I’m talking about this particular instance, and you’ve seemed to want to drag in a bunch of “well what if...” nonsensical scenarios.

In this particular case, the facts are obvious.

No, he didn’t.

The player who scored did.