2015 Draft Prospects

[Ohio]

I'm down with that, but I still want a QB.

We're never getting one, I've already come to grips with it

 

[Chris]

We're never getting one, I've already come to grips with it

I'm starting to as well.

 

[Holden beach]

^ It's not necessarily looking to replace one person.. It's just that you have no practical depth on the line where you need guys who can work within the ZBS. Vinson Painter and Paul McQuistan being the back-ups is shabby.

The Browns have 10 picks going into this draft. Clearly, some will be traded to move up, down, into next year, etc. That said, I think it's stupid to not think one of those picks can go towards reinforcing the strength on the offensive line.. To say the Browns need not address it is not wise, IMO.

Good point, @Holden beach on Bowie.

Agree with you that McQuistan is not a viable backup. Haven't seen enough of Painter to provide an opinion, but if the coaches have him behind McQuistan on the depth chart, he needs to go.

The lack of any type of running game is directly tied to the injury to Alex Mack. Hopefully he comes back with no issues next year, but if he doesn't, or gets injured again, we will be in the same place we are now. A backup center, or a guard that also has center experience, should be a high priority.

I also should have stated in my previous post that Michael Bowie will be competition with Mitchell Schwartz at RT in next year's training camp. All starting positions are earned in practice.

 

[billmac91]

Agree with you that McQuistan is not a viable backup. Haven't seen enough of Painter to provide an opinion, but if the coaches have him behind McQuistan on the depth chart, he needs to go.

The lack of any type of running game is directly tied to the injury to Alex Mack. Hopefully he comes back with no issues next year, but if he doesn't, or gets injured again, we will be in the same place we are now. A backup center, or a guard that also has center experience, should be a high priority.

I also should have stated in my previous post that Michael Bowie will be competition with Mitchell Schwartz at RT in next year's training camp. All starting positions are earned in practice.

With the suffering run game after Mack's injury, I'm a little surprised they're trotting Hoyer back out there on Sunday. If nothing else, Manziel loosens up the inside run game because of the threat of him keeping the ball and getting on the boundary.

The Browns actually have a legit, built-in excuse to start Manziel, but have still decided to ride with Hoyer. It's tough to discern if they're just not being smart, or they think Manziel is that far away from being ready. I mean Pettine could've got on the mic yesterday and said "with the loss of Mack our run game has suffered and we just need the legs of Johnny right now. Hoyer is still in our plans but short-term, we feel Johnny gives us the best chance to move the football because he can help us in the run game".

 

[AZ_]

With the suffering run game after Mack's injury, I'm a little surprised they're trotting Hoyer back out there on Sunday. If nothing else, Manziel loosens up the inside run game because of the threat of him keeping the ball and getting on the boundary.

The Browns actually have a legit, built-in excuse to start Manziel, but have still decided to ride with Hoyer. It's tough to discern if they're just not being smart, or they think Manziel is that far away from being ready. I mean Pettine could've got on the mic yesterday and said "with the loss of Mack our run game has suffered and we just need the legs of Johnny right now. Hoyer is still in our plans but short-term, we feel Johnny gives us the best chance to move the football because he can help us in the run game".

I'm not sure they could sell going to Manziel "short term," I think we all know what the fallout of benching him after making him the starter would be.

You go to the young guy because you think he's the future and is ready to take over full-time.

 

[billmac91]

I'm not sure they could sell going to Manziel "short term," I think we all know what the fallout of benching him after making him the starter would be.

You go to the young guy because you think he's the future and is ready to take over full-time.

Ya, it'd be complete PR BS, but it still gives you a little wiggle room to put Hoyer back in if need be.

The point is, you could hide behind Mack's injury to start Manziel, and if the wheels come off you just go back to Brian. You save a little face by saying Manziel is only getting the start because the run game is suffering so badly, and they need his mobility to open up the field.

It's a reach, but teams have done it. If you throw that pretext out there, and Johnny plays really well, you just let him keep the job. I think one of the biggest fears right now is letting Manziel start, him struggling, and then going back to Hoyer after you just benched him. My point is you can deflect some of that by hiding behind Mack's injury.

The fact that they're just flat-out starting Hoyer surprises me a bit. I think it's telling in where they feel Manziel is right now...which is he just isn't good enough.

I will say, I trust Farmer more than anyone they've had in a really long time.

 

[AZ_]

Devin Funchess is declaring for the draft, officially.

 

[MD13]

Devin Funchess is declaring for the draft, officially.

Anyone have any thoughts on him? I haven't seen any Michigan games at all this year.

 

[AZ_]

Anyone have any thoughts on him? I haven't seen any Michigan games at all this year.

Tweener

Doesn't block, probably not quick enough to be a WR full time.

Red zone weapon, but a role player for me.

 

[polska2211]

Tweener

Doesn't block, probably not quick enough to be a WR full time.

Red zone weapon, but a role player for me.

see: Jeffery, Alshon

 

[AZ_]

see: Jeffery, Alshon

Alshon was a natural for the WR position, he just got fat as shit and had to completely transform his body back to normal upon leaving USC

 

[Norm]

Tweener

Doesn't block, probably not quick enough to be a WR full time.

Red zone weapon, but a role player for me.

He blocks, not great at it, but he attempts to at least. Noone really worked with him on blocking. I do believe he's fast enough to be a #2, if paired up in the right receiving core. He played hurt most of the year, so one would hope his regression was due to that and a combination of Hoke's "Mike Brown" player development. I would honestly be surprised if he didn't run a 4.55 at the combine. I would in all seriousness take a flyer on Funchess in the late 1st.

 

[CPK]

I was hoping we could snag Funchess a bit later. Be curious to see what he does do at the combine.

 

[ajz20]

I like Greene at FSU at Wr in round 2. Not flashy, but scouts think he can be a number 2 Wr from day one. Also both kids from Auburn D.Williams and Sammy Coats have a chance to be very solid. After Cooper and perhaps Parker, not sure another guy deserves being picked in the mid to late teens. I am hoping Ray from Mizzou drops to the Buffalo pick if they lose out.
Would rather wait till round 2, and spend the first round picks on OLB or DT or OT. WR can wait till round 2. I also hear that a guy like Cecil Shorts could be had pretty cheap in free agency as a number 3 or 4 guy.

I would not spend a pick in the teens on Funches. Too much talent on the defensive side in the teens.Could many guys in rounds 2-3 having as good or better NFL careers then Funches.

 

[Shakalu M.D.]

I wanted Mariotta, really doubt we go QB again after just using a first on Johnny. I just can't imagine that happening.

So since I can't have Mariotta I want the best pass rusher in this draft. I'd package both 1sts to get him. The defense is really solid, they just need that game changing playmaker. I'd go Williams, or we could just drop a Fuckton and sign Sub.