The decline of JJ Hickson

[daytripper]

You're exactly right. It was Riley who prevented the Amare trade. He was the one who saw that this trade could foil the collusion (aka The Decision), so he was constantly in Kerr's ear making up lies and convincing him that he could come up with a better trade package than the Cavs.

I always suspected Riley was in Kerr's ear esp when Miami joined the late bidding for Amare when they clearly had nothing to deal outside of DWade who was going nowhere. Like the collusion it's hard to prove. Even without any interference by Riley I doubt Kerr makes that deal but it's just another reason for me to hate the Heat

 

[Jon]

What Riley actually did was leak the trade, and the backlash from the Sun's fans is what squashed the deal. Steve Kerr didn't like either deal, but he was under order to save his boss money.

 

[Kouki]

I dont give #6 much credit these days, but his ability to make puds like Hickson, Wally, Pavlovic, etc look like serviceable NBA players will be stuff of lore someday... as will his inability to be the #1 option when paired with other stars, but I digress.

That's some disgusting revisionist history there.

Hickson didn't do shit when LeBron was on the team except for dunk open looks. Last year, as frustrating as he was to watch at times, Hickson averaged 17/11 after the All Star break and had random games where he couldn't miss jumpers.

Wally played like complete ass when he came to the Cavs. After averaging 13 ppg on 46% shooting (43% from three), Wally came here and was a massive disappointment: 8 ppg on 36% shooting, 37% from three.

As for Pavlovic, well, I don't know.

 

[Kouki]

- Riley convincing James that he should change his number to 6, since Miami had already retired 23.

Moot, you don't have to inform the league of number changes if you are switching teams. If anything, the number switch was evidence that he would stay in Cleveland, as the only time you have to announce a number change ahead of time is if you aren't moving teams.

Although the timing of those events is suspicious now that I think about it.

 

[WeinerSoBig]

Moot, you don't have to inform the league of number changes if you are switching teams. If anything, the number switch was evidence that he would stay in Cleveland, as the only time you have to announce a number change ahead of time is if you aren't moving teams.

Although the timing of those events is suspicious now that I think about it.

I agree, but I remember reading that Riley spoke to LBJ before a Miami/Cavs game and explained to him the importance of retiring the #23. I read that technically that was considered tampering, but the Cavs never filed any charges. Probably because they had no idea of Miami's invovlement.

 

[Surge]

That's some disgusting revisionist history there.

Hickson didn't do shit when LeBron was on the team except for dunk open looks. Last year, as frustrating as he was to watch at times, Hickson averaged 17/11 after the All Star break and had random games where he couldn't miss jumpers.

So how was he getting all those open looks/dunks? He certainly wasn't getting a sniff of it in Sacramento. Byron Scott didn't even want to play him.

So as much as I hate #6, he made Hickson what little he was...

 

[WeinerSoBig]

So how was he getting all those open looks/dunks? He certainly wasn't getting a sniff of it in Sacramento. Byron Scott didn't even want to play him.

So as much as I hate #6, he made Hickson what little he was...

I guess the point is that Hickson has small hands.

 

[TitleTown]

I'd be fine with picking up Hickson for nothing. It basically means that we got Casspi and a first round pick for FREE.

Also, Samardo is likely not going to be anything special. Give Samardo's minutes to JJ, and see what he can do off the bench. This may have been just the kind of medicine to get JJ to be a bit more humble and start working hard.

 

[B3team]

I'd be fine with picking up Hickson for nothing. It basically means that we got Casspi and a first round pick for FREE.

bringing JJ back would be subtraction by addition

 

[TitleTown]

bringing JJ back would be subtraction by addition

How so? We could basically try him for cheap for the rest of the year. If he doesn't work out, no big deal cause he helped us lose games (which isn't a bad thing). And then we cut him at the end of the season.

But if he improves from where he left off last year, then great. There's nothing wrong with giving him a try.

 

[jvl]

Sign him cheap. He would be an alley oop machine with Kyrie.

 

[B3team]

How so? We could basically try him for cheap for the rest of the year. If he doesn't work out, no big deal cause he helped us lose games (which isn't a bad thing). And then we cut him at the end of the season.

But if he improves from where he left off last year, then great. There's nothing wrong with giving him a try.

I think Byron is trying to get everyone to buy into his system. JJ doesn't buy in. It would be detrimental to the franchise for the rookies to see someone ignoring the coach's philosophy. It sends a mixed message if we go out and acquire someone like JJ. If the cavs are really trying to establish a culture, I don't think that you bring in JJ at this time. Also, he is retarded and he can't catch.

 

[SOA]

I'd rather TT and Samardo get minutes because they are in our future plans JJ isn't

let him rebuild his career elsewhere . . . plus we aren't on a list of where HE wants to go

Word has it his interest is going to GSW, PHX or with his buddy in Miami

 

[TitleTown]

I'd rather TT and Samardo get minutes because they are in our future plans JJ isn't

let him rebuild his career elsewhere . . . plus we aren't on a list of where HE wants to go

Word has it his interest is going to GSW, PHX or with his buddy in Miami

Tristan yes, Samardo not so sure.

Samardo could very we be cut at the end of the season depending on who we draft. No reason not to give JJ a try until then.

 

[Kouki]

So how was he getting all those open looks/dunks? He certainly wasn't getting a sniff of it in Sacramento. Byron Scott didn't even want to play him.

So as much as I hate #6, he made Hickson what little he was...

You arent getting my point. With LeBron, alls JJ did was finish open buckets. Without LeBron, JJ averaged 18 and 11 for half a season. So how LeBron make JJ into something?