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School Told to Call Kids ‘Purple Penguins’ Because ‘Boys and Girls’ Is Not Inclusive

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It's true that a penis and vagina are nature, no one is denying that. But a "mismatched" gender identity can also be based in nature, it's just not as obvious as a dick. In a neuroethology course we learned about certain regions of the brain that are different between men and women (bigger in one or the other), and then as an interesting aside looked at how it varied in sexual males who identified as females, sexual males who identified as male but were gay, etc. The results were complex because the brain is complex, but they followed regular patterns such as trans men have "female" brains here and here, and "male" brains here and here 80% of the time, etc.

It's weird and complicated and hard to relate to, but just because you can't see the the gender contradiction on their face or pelvis doesn't mean it isn't real, and doesn't mean that they made it up to be liberal and cool.

Hell my thesis project involved blocking the "defeminization" process in mice in the womb with ketamine so that you would get male rats with female brains. I then did tests that showed this was in fact the case, so there's an example of a rat with a sex that differs from it's little self-identified rodent-gender.
 
I am 90% sure one of my co-workers is a transgender. I just figured it out last week. That is the only detail I'm giving until either Jigo, Max, or Q-Tip exemplify a more tolerant stance.
 
Embarrassingly, I only (relatively) recently learned the difference between sex and gender. I didn't understand it at the time, and sometimes I still have a hard time fully understanding it. But I didn't dismiss it out of hand.

I grew up like most boys, healthy gender identity, straight, not really many questions about that aspect of my life. But I understand that others might not be so lucky. This just seems like another instance where people are quick to dismiss a situation that they've never had to worry about as "silly".

I'm pretty sure it's well established that gender identity can be different from biological sex, and these differences can pop up at a young age. Why not try to be accepting of children as much as possible? I'm really not seeing the problem here. The wussification of America? Hell, we could use a few fewer wars...
 
Recent studies shoe parental bias causes boys to not play with dolls. They got. A load of babies and randomly put them in pink and blue clothes. When left to play with a parent of one of the group the" boys" had the dolls taken off them whenever they picked them up. The "girls" were allowed to play with anything
 
Yay America continue to push for boys to act more feminine and girls to act more masculine. Hopefully, one day in the future we will evolve into a unisex made up of a mix of every ethnicity/race then maybe people won't get offended.

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All these posts and nothing regarding the South Park last night making fun of this?

It was great, and yes, there are indeed a lot of dumb people in the world.

I only know this is a thing because of South Park.
 
It's true that a penis and vagina are nature, no one is denying that. But a "mismatched" gender identity can also be based in nature, it's just not as obvious as a dick. In a neuroethology course we learned about certain regions of the brain that are different between men and women (bigger in one or the other), and then as an interesting aside looked at how it varied in sexual males who identified as females, sexual males who identified as male but were gay, etc. The results were complex because the brain is complex, but they followed regular patterns such as trans men have "female" brains here and here, and "male" brains here and here 80% of the time, etc.

its not so much we're talking about 'gender reassignment' cases, its stripping away gender identity proactively

Yay America continue to push for boys to act more feminine and girls to act more masculine. Hopefully, one day in the future we will evolve into a unisex made up of a mix of every ethnicity/race then maybe people won't get offended.

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'more masculine' is an umbrella too large to accurately identify specific problematic behaviors and circumstances in regards to what we're talking about. a part of masculinity is being told to fuck as many bitches as possible and not care about reprocussions. This sucks for guys because you waste your life doing what youre told and lose years to a siege that is pretty shallow and unfruitful in comparison to actual human relations, which, if you accidentally fall into, you will 'be masculine' by always being the dominant force and not listening to the other person or building a foundation for said relationship, but rather being competitive, combative and attempting to fulfill expectations as being 'the one with power'. Then, your chick resents you and fucks the football team in front of you. then you're a wreck for years because you have developed no coping skills because society has told you to 'just man up.' Youve also taught this chick that she'll get what she wants (your submission, which she didnt give a flying fuck about until you trained her to focus on inadvertently) by being a dominant person and not playing by the rules. She is now a fucking bitch to every guy that comes across her path due to the complex your masculinity has given her. Now SHE plays games and is out to win instead of being an actual human being. The shit's contagious.

For girls, since they attract.. everyone, they have a surplus of fucking assholes refusing to leave them alone (trying to fuck) and idiots who don't know how to have a healthy relationship and are emotionally unevolved. How does 'being more masculine' help? By getting you a record when you need to prove your masculinity to strangers at a bar when challenged by someone else's quest for masculinity? who the fuck wins? congrats, you suck at relationships, dealing iwth emotions in any sort of healthy manner, you get your head knocked in and you get arrested.

btw.. do you win every fight? do you fuck every bitch? are you the baddest motherfucker in any given room? does focusing effort on being masculine actually benefit you or does it fuck with your self esteem (internal) by not living up to what society has taught you from since before you could form thoughts and creating negative (external) circumstances? By training girls to have ridiculously negative general dispositions towards guys and make life a shit ton harder for you? Can you even talk to a girl without them thinking youre trying to fuck them? why do you think that is? and what's their response considering how guys who just want to fuck them generally are? Do you know how ridiculous it is not to come off as a player or just out for sex when dating? theyre always on guard, bc they see that shit all the time. Then you have to play the part of a perfect gentleman at the first sign of caution, and no one's fucking the guy who's a perfect gentleman.




Embarrassingly, I only (relatively) recently learned the difference between sex and gender. I didn't understand it at the time, and sometimes I still have a hard time fully understanding it. But I didn't dismiss it out of hand.

I grew up like most boys, healthy gender identity, straight, not really many questions about that aspect of my life. But I understand that others might not be so lucky. This just seems like another instance where people are quick to dismiss a situation that they've never had to worry about as "silly".

I'm pretty sure it's well established that gender identity can be different from biological sex, and these differences can pop up at a young age. Why not try to be accepting of children as much as possible? I'm really not seeing the problem here. The wussification of America? Hell, we could use a few fewer wars...

its not accepting kids for what they are rather than not teaching them to be a dude or a chick
 
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its not so much we're talking about 'gender reassignment' cases, its stripping away gender identity proactively
I agree, but i would argue that a major purpose of doing that is to protect those whose gender does not match their sex. As in, calling kids by their names instead of calling them girls and boys is partially intended to protect those who don't wholly fit in one category or the other.

Though as i typed out this response i realized that you have a point that it's also about preventing hyper-masculinization and feminization of "normal" boys and girls. That's something that affects everyone for better or for worse.
 
But seriously...I support this. Makes perfect sense and is for the greater good of society.





So, Keys...what's going on with the tranny?
 
Has anyone projected the resulting social impact.? Eventually, our public schools will teach nothing but how not to be different. How will that impact our ability to understand others, or to be different, innovative.

In any case, I have a way to call everyones attention. What is wrong with "Hey Americans"? Some of you are going to say it leaves out illegals, but I think we could argue that they are treated as americans anyway, especially children, so why not just call it like it is?

At the end of the day, what do we have left as identity at all. In America, we should celebrate our diversity, not stamp it out.
 
Just teach your boys to be masculine and we won't have anything to worry about. Ngaf about girls cause their lives are gonna be easy as shit anyways so long as they end up hot.

So many fucking betas out there on the left coast.
 
How do people feel about Keys' point that these gender neutral kids have to receive additional benefits to the regular gender kids? Such as using the staff bathrooms instead of the regular ones.

And the fact that his take is generally that they're doing what they're doing strictly to appease parents?
 
Yes. Online dictionaries are out to get you and your way of life. They are the nut cases, not you.

I've practiced employment law for more than 20 years, which included lots of stuff regarding the meaning of "sex" and "gender" as they appear in various statutes, regulations, and the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (commonly referred to as the "DSM"), which address mental health. I've had to go through several updated versions of the DSM because they issue new ones periodically.

There is absolutely zero doubt that there has been a deliberate, if not necessarily coordinated, campaign to redefine those words so as to be more compliant with the interests of the GLBT interests groups. Same has been done to Wikipedia. You can check the various versions of the DSM, dictionaries, etc., and see the changes. Go check a written dictionary published 20 years ago and compare it with what you may find online to see how the definitions have changed. Actually had to do that for a case where someone who was trans was trying to get that covered based on discrimination against "gender", and won by showing what the meaning of the word was at the time the statute was passed, versus the meaning the plaintiff was trying to give it currently.

Truth of the matter is gender identity issues were first recognized as a psychological condition in the 1950s. It's a real condition. The parents who are doing the gender neutral thing are basing it on actual scientifically proven concerns, I just think it causes more problems for the kid than it cures, personally.

Funny you should mentioned that. Yes, "Gender Identify Disorder" has been recognized for a long time by mental health professionals, and was defined in the DSM's. I still have the DSM III-R that was the bible when I started practicing. And you could find Gender Identity Disorder going back all the way to the original DSM (1952), up to the DSM III-R (1987), DSM IV (1994), and DSM IV-TR (2000).

But a funny thing happened with the DSM-V (2013). The condition was now referred to as Gender Identity Dysphoria, instead of "Disorder." Why? Well, because advcoates didn't like the term "disorder". And it's not just right-wing paranoia saying that's why the change was made:

For years advocates have lobbied the American Psychiatric Association to change or remove categories labeling transgender people in a psychiatric manual, arguing that terms like “Gender Identity Disorder” characterize all trans people as mentally ill. Based on the standards to be set by the DSM-V, individuals will be diagnosed with Gender Dysphoria for displaying “a marked incongruence between one’s experienced/expressed gender and assigned gender.”
“All psychiatric diagnoses occur within a cultural context,” said Jack Drescher, a member of the APA subcommittee working on the revision. “We know there is a whole community of people out there who are not seeking medical attention and live between the two binary categories. We wanted to send the message that the therapist’s job isn’t to pathologize.”

http://www.advocate.com/politics/tr...ces-gender-identity-disorder-gender-dysphoria

And if you read the article, the political/interest group factors driving that language change is very clear. The tap-dance gets more humorous when you did a bit deeper and find that the real problem they're having is trying to get it considered some sort of defect for purposes of getting insurance (or the taxpayers via Medicare/Medicaid) to pay for reassignment surgery/hormone treatments, while at the same time not wanting to be considered as having something "wrong" with them. Essentially, the shrinks and GLBT lobby are trying to come up with something that will force the rest of us to pay for those treatments.

Again, this isn't a huge change for a school. I would just pick groupings of students according to ability level or some other factor. It is a sall adjustment compared to other adjustments schools make all the time for things like emotional disturbances in a kid, a physical disability in a kid, autism, etc.

And again, you keep viewing this solely from the perspective of what is easiest for teachers/schools, whereas parents may care much more about the content of what is actually being taught/imparted to students. And frankly, I'm not too keen on having what was considered a "disorder" until two years ago being taught as just another equally valid "choice".
 
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So how do you divide up athletics out there on the left coast? Over here we have boys basketball teams and girls basketball teams, for example. Do you have a neutral team...or do kids get to pick which one they play for? What do you do for bathrooms and locker rooms?

"Purple Penguins for others!!!"

All good points. There have been successful lawsuits (and some unsuccessful) arguing that a kid who "self-identifies" as a boy or girl gets to use whatever bathroom, or play for whatever sports team, he/she chooses, regardless of the biological realities. It's fucking absurd, which is why people are pushing back.

The idea that the rest of the world should adjust its behavior to comply with the false realities of people with mental issues is ridiculous.
 

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