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2013 NBA Draft

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If the Cavs get the second pick, who should they choose?

  • Ben McLemore

    Votes: 19 8.9%
  • Otto Porter

    Votes: 129 60.6%
  • Anthony Bennett

    Votes: 9 4.2%
  • Victor Oladipo

    Votes: 24 11.3%
  • Alex Len

    Votes: 30 14.1%
  • Other---

    Votes: 2 0.9%

  • Total voters
    213
  • Poll closed .
I remember people saying the 2009 draft was going to be one of the worst of all-time. Some players out of that draft:

Blake Griffin
Harden
Reke
Rubio
Curry
DeRozan
Lawson
Teague
Maynor
Collison
Gibson
Budinger


Fact of the matter is NO ONE knows how good or bad the draft will be a year in advance. Hell, no one knows the night of the draft.

But its better to have a pick than no pick at all.

I don't think I'm at all in the wrong in stating that if Blake F'ing Griffin is the best thing that comes out of a draft, and the next names you're going to drop are James Harden and Tyreke Evans, then that draft was probably pretty shitty.

Come on, Blake Griffin dunks the ball really, really well. Wake me when he's got a complete game to him, 'cause for now, if he's chasing guys like Durant and them, he's got a long ass way to go.

Sometimes, a weak draft is what it is, a weak draft. You just gave me a list of 2nd or 3rd guys on a team and a bunch of role-players and marginal starters. Nothing on that list screams "build around me" at all.
 
I don't think I'm at all in the wrong in stating that if Blake F'ing Griffin is the best thing that comes out of a draft, and the next names you're going to drop are James Harden and Tyreke Evans, then that draft was probably pretty shitty.

Come on, Blake Griffin dunks the ball really, really well. Wake me when he's got a complete game to him, 'cause for now, if he's chasing guys like Durant and them, he's got a long ass way to go.

Sometimes, a weak draft is what it is, a weak draft. You just gave me a list of 2nd or 3rd guys on a team and a bunch of role-players and marginal starters. Nothing on that list screams "build around me" at all.


Griffin is 23 years old. In two years, he's averaged 22 ppg, 11.5 rpg, while shooting 52%.

I mean, Jesus dude, at least wait until he hits his prime before you declare him a lost cause.

Harden was the third best player on a FINALS TEAM this year. Griffin, Lawson, Teague, and Collison have already been significant contributors on playoff teams.

Again, we're talking about THREE YEARS!

And the point isn't that all of those players can be built around. Hell, there are very few drafts that have multiple guys you could legitimately build around. The point is that even "weak" drafts produce significant contributors.

But hey, clearly you can see the future, so there's not point in trying to persuade you.
 
From what I've seen so far, I'm a big fan of Kyle Anderson and think he'd be the perfect fit on our team. When you have two dynamic scorers like Kyrie and possibly Waiters at the guard spots, bringing in a do-it-all point forward with incredible vision would allow the team to play with both off the ball. He would add a whole new dimension to the offense and hopefully make everyone even better.

Kyle Anderson is a 6'8 pg for UCLA this coming NCAA season

BTW scouting report on this Kyle Anderson guy is crazy (can't enter the draft until 2014 I think)

Quite the unique prospect, Anderson at 6-foot-8 is primarily a point guard yet able to play all five positions. His basketball IQ and court vision is at the top of the charts, and he is a tremendous defensive rebounder. Defensively, he isn't known for his foot speed, but utilizes his length and instincts.

Kyle Anderson - Yahoo! Sports

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Kyle-Anderson-6177/

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Another game and another win for Kyle Anderson (#4 Scout, #2 Rivals, #5 ESPN), who is now 45-0 in a St. Anthony's uniform.

The most unconventional player in high school basketball did it in his typical fashion here in Springfield, filling up the stat sheet with 18 points, 10 rebounds, 5 assists and 2 blocks.

Standing 6-9 in shoes, with a 7-2 wingspan, Anderson has the size of a power forward but the skill-set of a guard. He's often the biggest player on the floor at high school level, which allows him to impact the game in a variety of ways thanks to his very unique versatility. Anderson handles the ball in transition and will often initiate his team's offense in the half-court, but usually sits at the back of his team's zone and acts as its paint protector on the other side of the floor.

Offensively, Anderson is an excellent ball-handler for his size, using his length to maintain a low and controlled dribble, while playing at his own unique pace. Despite possessing an underwhelming first step and average quickness, his outstanding footwork and ability to change speeds fluidly keeps defenders off balance while he surveys the court from his terrific vantage point. Anderson has a tremendous basketball IQ and excellent vision, giving him the ability to pass ahead in transition beautifully and find the open man unselfishly with pinpoint accuracy in the half-court. This is the reason he's viewed by some as a future point forward or even a point guard, and has drawn perhaps unfair (or at least premature) comparisons to the likes of Magic Johnson and Jalen Rose.


Anderson has yet to fully hone his playmaking and shot-creating ability in the half-court, as he's a bit turnover prone when attempting to drive all the way into the paint. He rarely fully beats his man off the dribble and tends to spin into traffic looking for whistles, forcing up off balance, low-percentage floaters when that doesn't work out. He doesn't elevate well around the basket and already is a noticeably below average athlete at the high school level, so there are question marks about how this part of his game might translate as the competition level stiffens.

How good of a shooter Anderson will become down the road will likely play a significant role in the way he's evaluated at the professional level. Right now he sports a slow, deliberate release on his jumper, even if he's capable of making shots with his feet set, and at times off the dribble. The fact that he is able to get his shot off at his size with his high release point helps out quite a bit, he just needs to become more consistent with time and repetition.

The biggest question marks Anderson will face are likely to revolve around his play on the defensive end. On one hand he can absolutely fill up the stat sheet with steals, blocks and rebounds thanks to his tremendous length and anticipationability. On the other hand, he struggles to move laterally on the perimeter, getting beaten regularly off the dribble when forced to step out and guard smaller players.

He's likely best suited defending the small forward position, which means he'll need to play next to the right type of non-ball dominant guards to fully utilize his strengths on the offensive end.

Anderson's unique strengths and weaknesses make him one of the more unconventional players we've evaluated at the high school level, and provide for a wide array of opinions for how he might develop down the road. It will be very interesting (and entertaining) to see how his career plays out, starting at UCLA, where he'll be playing his college basketball under Ben Howland.
 
Kyle Anderson is a 6'8 pg for UCLA this coming NCAA season

BTW scouting report on this Kyle Anderson guy is crazy (can't enter the draft until 2014 I think)



Kyle Anderson - Yahoo! Sports

DraftExpress NBA Draft Prospect Profile: Kyle Anderson, Stats, Comparisons, and Outlook

Yup, I've watched a bunch of his games and I've been impressed every time. Don't think he can play guard in the pros since he's too slow and he'll regularly get abused on the defensive end, and I don't think he can play PF as he has average size for the position and isn't a great athlete, so SF is as good a position as any I guess. He's got such a unique skill-set, I'm not quite sure how it'll work out on the Cavs. He definitely has to improve his jumper, but I can see him taking at least some of the playmaking responsibilities away from Kyrie and Dion and allowing both to focus more on just scoring.
 
Yeah, Blake Griffin. What a mediocre player.

(A guy most of us would give our first born to have on the Cavaliers)
 
I'd rather have Varejao than Blake Griffin. Blake is the most overrated player in the league by far. He is so good that he sits on the bench during 4th quarters.
 
I'd rather have Varejao than Blake Griffin. Blake is the most overrated player in the league by far. He is so good that he sits on the bench during 4th quarters.

Blake is 23. Varejao is an old 30.

You're a crazy person.
 
What's with this hate people have for Griffin? So what if you're not a very skilled player... When you're as physically dominant as he is, it doesn't matter. Shaq never learned how to shoot the ball past 5 feet, but he was still a top 5 center of all time. I'd easily give everyone on the team outside of Kyrie for Blake, and the Clips would still reject us without thinking twice about it.
 
If we had Bake instead of Tristan right now we would have the brightest future in the entire NBA right now.
 
Clippers will probably be a top-3 seeded team in the West next season. Give Paul and Griff another year together it's going to be a nice tandem. Hell it already is.

I think Griffin's an annoying jackoff on the court but as the aforementioned depicted; we could offer our entire team besides Kyrie and LA laughs and hangs up.
 
Clippers will probably be a top-3 seeded team in the West next season. Give Paul and Griff another year together it's going to be a nice tandem. Hell it already is.

I think Griffin's an annoying jackoff on the court but as the aforementioned depicted; we could offer our entire team besides Kyrie and LA laughs and hangs up.

Griffin's anything but annoying on the court, IMO. He's all business. He's calm, concise, and humble. You didn't see him do any celebrating when he dunked on Perkins. I like Griffin. Sure, he could be better on defense, but he's a great guy to have around.
 
Griffin's anything but annoying on the court, IMO. He's all business. He's calm, concise, and humble. You didn't see him do any celebrating when he dunked on Perkins. I like Griffin. Sure, he could be better on defense, but he's a great guy to have around.

He's babied by the NBA and is one of the biggest floppers in the entire league. He's a phenomenal athlete, but I really do not like the guy.
 
If memory serves this was started before the draft of two weeks ago even started. That thread was at 1100 pages. I think this can go for 2000. I also think the people here will want over 100 different prospects over the course of the draft, with 60 different changes in the month of June alone, followed by outrage, then calm, then when everyone reads about our pick, a quite realization that you did this the last two drafts and its worked out fairly well, until the 2014 draft when it begins anew. I predict that thread will start in September as people get bored of this draft.
 
Can we get this moved to the main board now????

It will get moved when the main board starts to calm down. Probably after summer league. This is the draft forum -- it's the right place for this thread, at least for now.
 

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