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2015 Cleveland Browns Training Camp Thread

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That clip of Gilbert shows what sets Haden apart as one of the best in the league: he turns his damn head around to find the ball. Why are so many guys taught to just put your hand up? Is it really that hard to take a quick glance back?
Granted I didn't play past the high school level but even if your team yells out pass or the number of the receiver you're guarding, unless your already turning to cover a route, it's pretty difficult to effectively defend the pass and turn your head. A hand up is the best you can do in some cases.
 
Bills calling the Browns soft in practice. :9:
 
Granted I didn't play past the high school level but even if your team yells out pass or the number of the receiver you're guarding, unless your already turning to cover a route, it's pretty difficult to effectively defend the pass and turn your head. A hand up is the best you can do in some cases.

Just go out and have a friend bomb a ball and you cover a friend. If you aren't trained in it from HS-College-Pro, your instinct is to turn your head and find it. If you aren't used to it, you will lose a step, and that is all the WR needs to burn you to the EZ. That is why Haden is a monster, he can look when he needs to and not lose his step.

You watch their eyes and their head and if he turns to look, you take a quick glance then turn back towards em. I would hate to play DB, I can't even turn a corner in my house sometimes without hitting a wall.
 
The great Tony Grossi says Browns go 6-10, while starting 3-0.

Those first 3 games are such a fucking tease though... If we go 1-2 Pettine should be in shit up to his neck.
 
Its cool watching him drive the OL back and all, but next time it'd be nice if he shed the block and made the tackle.

Do you want him to pick up the coaching staffs Dry Cleaning and get Starbucks for the team while he is at it?
 
Its cool watching him drive the OL back and all, but next time it'd be nice if he shed the block and made the tackle.

The play was blown dead as soon as he got into the backfield.

Much rather see this from our first round pick than getting lost in coverage. IMO, Shelton looked flawless in that clip....absolutely FLAWLESS!

Almost as flawless as Gilbert looks below...

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Do you want him to pick up the coaching staffs Dry Cleaning and get Starbucks for the team while he is at it?
Perhaps when the season is over also be the 5th big for the Cavaliers.
 
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Perhaps when the season is over also be the 5th big for the Cavaliers.
Only 5th? He should be capable of replacing TT at minimum.


But for real guys, don't take it the wrong way. It was awesome and impressive, I'm personallu just going to hold off from creaming myself unless he actually makes the play/enables somebody else to make it.
 
Only 5th? He should be capable of replacing TT at minimum.


But for real guys, don't take it the wrong way. It was awesome and impressive, I'm personallu just going to hold off from creaming myself unless he actually makes the play/enables somebody else to make it.
He did enable someone else to make it though. The offensive linemen's ideal goal is to drive him back into the linebacker. If he can't do that at least don't give ground. When people talk about 'wrecking havoc' and penetrating the line (preparing for the last 3 words to be the only ones quoted :p) they are talking about what Shelton just did, and why it is so important is because it allows our linebackers to make the plays. You want to 'keep that LBers jersey clean' aka don't let him get blocked and don't get washed into his level. A nose can go an entire game without a tackle and have an amazing game. Just like a nose can have 2 sacks in a game that he actually played putridly in. The kind of play you are asking the nose to make is an all-pro level play. Wilfork doesn't make that play. Ngata and Suh are the guys who make those plays. Wanting a rookie to blow up the play AND get off the block in time to make the tackle is just way too much.

I would rather him not make the tackle, but destroy the line of scrimmage than get driven back two yards, come off the block, and make a tackle. When he blows up the play like that he is putting a linebacker in direct position to make an easy play. Whether or not the backer makes that play is on him.

Shelton did his job and then some on that play
 
Its cool watching him drive the OL back and all, but next time it'd be nice if he shed the block and made the tackle.

His job is to occupy, distract, and allow his linebackers to make plays.

Any coach with even half a brain knows that play is made because of what Danny Shelton did to his man.
 
The great Tony Grossi says Browns go 6-10, while starting 3-0.

Those first 3 games are such a fucking tease though... If we go 1-2 Pettine should be in shit up to his neck.

Start 3-0 and proceed to lose almost all of the rest of their games?

...sounds about right, actually.
 
Start 3-0 and proceed to lose almost all of the rest of their games?

...sounds about right, actually.
Well, like Whitner said in his Twitter Q&A today when asked about Grossi's 6 wins prediction, "he's entitled to his own opinion" Very professional of him, he could of got nasty.

This defense believes they are a playoff defense.
 

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