2017-2018 Boston Celtics: No Irving! No Hayward! No Brooklyn Pick!

[BigJ]

who the fuck is Ante Zizic

20yo Croatian Center who is compared to Nikola Pecovic or David Lee meaning Good Post Scorers.. but he is a much better shot blocker than both of these guys.

Played big roles on good European Teams and had a nice Summer Leauge with 8 PPG 6 Rpg and 2 BPG in 20 Minutes

No surefire Star but could be a valuable Center one day

 

[LeBro]

We could do a lot worse than this deal. I'd rather keep Kyrie in the end but doesn't seem likely.

Agree. Remember when we were floating out Paul George trade hypotheticals? It was always us getting George for a pile of trash, insisting that the "Pacers had no leverage". Well, guess what, the Cavs don't have leverage either. They're not getting a fair trade. If they really get IT+, it's a respectable return. All things considered, it's probably about as good as they can do.

 

[NMCav]

Meh under whelming unless one of the picks is the Nets pick

 

[CLEistheCITY]

Agree. Remember when we were floating out Paul George trade hypotheticals? It was always us getting George for a pile of trash, insisting that the "Pacers had no leverage". Well, guess what, the Cavs don't have leverage either. They're not getting a fair trade. If they really get IT+, it's a respectable return. All things considered, it's probably about as good as they can do.

Except kyrie has two years on his contract...

 

[bboy]

Agree. Remember when we were floating out Paul George trade hypotheticals? It was always us getting George for a pile of trash, insisting that the "Pacers had no leverage". Well, guess what, the Cavs don't have leverage either. They're not getting a fair trade. If they really get IT+, it's a respectable return. All things considered, it's probably about as good as they can do.

I disagree...get what you want ...dont settle for what Boston is gracious enough to allow us to have...demand our guys or forget it...noneed to even trade Kyrie...we have all the leverage

 

[willglam]

Agree. Remember when we were floating out Paul George trade hypotheticals? It was always us getting George for a pile of trash, insisting that the "Pacers had no leverage". Well, guess what, the Cavs don't have leverage either. They're not getting a fair trade. If they really get IT+, it's a respectable return. All things considered, it's probably about as good as they can do.

Nah Kyrie has two years left on his deal and is younger which makes this situation different.

 

[BigJ]

Meh under whelming unless one of the picks is the Nets pick

I am sure we push for either Tatum or Brown + BKN Pick
Zizic alone is nowhere near enough the young Potential Star we want

Tatum would be really nice to have.. He looks like a cross between Paul Pierce(only solid athletism and some moves) and Kobe(alot of Moves,Defense).. best case scenario of course.

Brown + BKN Pick would also be fine. Jaylen is a good defender already and has the Potential to be a very good two way Player.. and the BKN Pick we can either Trade for a Star that wants out during the year or keep it if we feel Lebron is leaving.

 

[Kizzle]

The fact that people are seriously debating Kyrie VS IT is kind of crazy to me seeing that every time weve played Boston IT has been ass.


I like any deal with BOS if we get Brown and Tatum.

I like any combo of Brown and Lakers AND Brooklyn pick.

Any combo of Tatum and Both picks

Any combo of IT Brown/Tatum Lakers or Brooklyn pick and a 2019 1st.




IT only has 1 year left on his contract so that must be factored in. Hes not very valuable and Boston shopped him around before the draft and were willing to take back shit for him and they still couldn't move him. So lets not act like he magically became valuable in the last month just because our organization sucks. IMO IT is nothing but a piece that replaces our PG position and a salary matcher.

If we don't get Tatum or Brown back we failed this trade and Gilbert failed Cleveland. I actually think Tatum is going to be a star so imo hes my target. If we had to give up Wiggins to get Love, then Boston should expect to have to give up tatum to get Kyrie fucking Irving.




Its funny how many teams are passing on Kyrie because of his attitude tho. I feel like if Kyrie waited and did this professionally next year, he could've had more control over where he went

 

[TheCity]

Told ya'll this was probably the best we could do
http://realcavsfans.com/community/index.php?threads/kyrie-irving.47440/page-621#post-2763192

I like it, if it goes down. If anything I.T owns John Wall, so he is not as useless as people tend to think he is in the postseason.

 

[FrontPageNews]

Can ante zizek block shots? He's 7'0. God knows we need shot blockers. Willy T might not make the team.

 

[BigJ]

Can ante zizek block shots? He's 7'0. God knows we need shot blockers. Willy T might not make the team.

He blocked over 1.5 Shots in his Career in Europe in under 25 Minutes per Game. Good but not earth shattering. He averaged 1.86 BPG in 19.9 MPG in Summer Leauge.

I would say he is about the Shot Blocker a healthy Mozgov was. Nothing elite but good enough to make an impact

 

[FrontPageNews]

Ayeeee

 

[RDriesen]

You don't trade the Nets pick if the Cavs get it. That draft is loaded.

 

[SouthernOhioCav]

Sounds like only argument is what pick and no Brown or Tatum...Boston fans arguing on Twitter with me that just IT and Crowder is better than Kyrie..don't think they understand age, contract, etc...

 

[Snarly]

I was at the liquor store earlier, I knew I should have got a bottle.