Browns 2018 Season Reboot Thread

[Norm]

I just hope he understands that he's allowed to give more than one back five touches or more a game. Because Hue and Haley both seemed to struggle with giving enough touches to their best players here.

Sounds like Haley was giving the ol middle finger to Hue and vice versa in regards to our offense. Firing both was the most logical choice.

I just hope Kitchens gives Baker some freedom at the line, unlike what was said about him only having a few plays

 

[sportscoach]

Sounds like Haley was giving the ol middle finger to Hue and vice versa in regards to our offense. Firing both was the most logical choice.

I just hope Kitchens gives Baker some freedom at the line, unlike what was said about him only having a few plays

At least there will only be one voice deciding the plays and everything like that! I am not sure on how Kitchens will call the plays, but from reviews, it seems like he is a smart guy, so I am thinking we will see more quick passes, play actions, screens etc, something quick and getting the ball out of Mayfields hands. This means the TEs and guys like Duke should have really good games.

 

[The Voice]

Think we will let mayfield go into hurry up and let him call the plays?

 

[Lee]

Think we will let mayfield go into hurry up and let him call the plays?

Why not, he has as much experience calling plays in the NFL as anyone else on our staff.

 

[Kbiz]

Things I hope to see addressed or corrected on the offensive side of things:

- No more rope-a-dope, end around gimmick plays that seem to always result in negative yards. More simple screens to get the ball to the likes of Duke and Landry in space.

- With the way our O-line has played, Mayfield should have a check down option almost every passing play, even if it means losing a support blocker. What difference does it make when the people that get paid to block can't do it effectively?

- Devalve getting more looks because he is being underutilized.

- More freedom for Baker if he wants to go uptempo. He's gotten in a rhythm when we run plays at a quicker pace and a coach worth a damn should be using it strategically, not as a reactive means to try to come back after we've spotted teams 10 points in the 1st.

 

[Real Deal]

Things I hope to see addressed or corrected on the offensive side of things:

-no more rope-a-dope, end around gimmick plays that seem to always result in negative yards. More simple screens to get the ball to the likes of Duke and Landry in space.

- With the way our O-line has played, Mayfield should have a check down option almost every passing play, even if it means losing a support blocker. What difference does it make when the people that get paid to block can't do it effectively?

- Devalve getting more looks because he is being underutilized.

- More freedom for Baker if he wants to go uptempo. He's gotten in a rhythm when we run plays at a quicker pace and a coach worth a damn should be using it strategically, not as a reactive means to try to come back after we've spotted teams 10 points in the 1st.

Those plays seem to work more often when the offense is getting everything else working, problem is Haley and the O wasn't getting everything else working. I don't have a problem with end around's, shovel passes, and flea flicker's when your gameplan is doing all the basic shit right while having a lead.

Also on the holding penalty in our own endzone, Haley called a play action that resulted in the hold, well duh, Baker was getting hurried majority of the game, so why even call that play? Haley has 0 game feel. He deserved to be shit canned 8 games in, and Hue deserved it as well. Browns players were radio silent on social media too. I think they all wanted it done.

 

[SanduskyCav]

Those plays seem to work more often when the offense is getting everything else working, problem is Haley and the O wasn't getting everything else working. I don't have a problem with end around's, shovel passes, and flea flicker's when your gameplan is doing all the basic shit right while having a lead.

Also on the holding penalty in our own endzone, Haley called a play action that resulted in the hold, well duh, Baker was getting hurried majority of the game, so why even call that play? Haley has 0 game feel. He deserved to be shit canned 8 games in, and Hue deserved it as well. Browns players were radio silent on social media too. I think they all wanted it done.

Browns’ players being silent on social media was huge. I know everyone makes it seem as though Hue was this great “players coach” but to see silence across the board from this team was refreshing and gives me confidence that these guys want to win.

 

[Juice is Loose]

Doesn’t sound like we were major players for Thomas or Tate.

 

[Real Deal]

Doesn’t sound like we were major players for Thomas or Tate.

Would've been great for Baker's growth, but we're in no position to deal away draft picks just yet. It still stings knowing we gave up a 3rd for Tyrod.

 

[sportscoach]

Would've been great for Baker's growth, but we're in no position to deal away draft picks just yet. It still stings knowing we gave up a 3rd for Tyrod.

The move for Taylor was the right one, if he didn't get hurt, he may still be the starter honestly. Baker got the starting nod cause of the injury, and because he has been playing well, he took the job from Taylor.

 

[Lee]

Doesn’t sound like we were major players for Thomas or Tate.

Tate plays the one receiving position we have healthy players and Thomas is old.

Why would we be players? Are we in win now mode?

 

[The Voice]

Things I hope to see addressed or corrected on the offensive side of things:

- No more rope-a-dope, end around gimmick plays that seem to always result in negative yards. More simple screens to get the ball to the likes of Duke and Landry in space.

- With the way our O-line has played, Mayfield should have a check down option almost every passing play, even if it means losing a support blocker. What difference does it make when the people that get paid to block can't do it effectively?

- Devalve getting more looks because he is being underutilized.

- More freedom for Baker if he wants to go uptempo. He's gotten in a rhythm when we run plays at a quicker pace and a coach worth a damn should be using it strategically, not as a reactive means to try to come back after we've spotted teams 10 points in the 1st.

Devalve = this years big foot

 

[DirtyDan]

Devalve = this years big foot

There's been more sightings of big foot than Seth Devalve.

Seriously though, how is Darren Fells getting more snaps than Seth?

 

[Jack Brickman]

Tate plays the one receiving position we have healthy players and Thomas is old.

Why would we be players? Are we in win now mode?

I could understand trading for Thomas just to give Baker a reliable target to throw to, but I agree that would have been a short term move that wouldn't really move the needle past this year.

As for Tate, really no reason to trade for him when you've already got Landry on a big deal. Tate's a moderately better overall player and more versatile because of his speed, but ultimately you don't want to have two receivers under six feet tall on long-term non-rookie deals. If we hadn't signed Landry to a long-term deal, I'd be all over Tate. But we did.

 

[The Voice]

There's been more sightings of big foot than Seth Devalve.

Seriously though, how is Darren Fells getting more snaps than Seth?

That’s the whole point everyone says how good he is and you never see it. Every year there’s a big foot, he happens to be it this year.