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Game Thread | Game #10 | Cavs @ Clippers | Nov. 7, 2022

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According to the NBA's 2 minute report there were 2 incorrect non-calls (INC) benefiting the Clippers and 1 incorrect foul call (IC) on the final foul.
Q401:26 Foul: PersonalReggie JacksonDarius GarlandINCVideo
Comment:Jackson (LAC) initiates contact with Garland's (CLE) left arm, affecting Garland's SQBR and causing him to lose control of the ball.
Q401:11.6 Foul: ShootingPaul GeorgeJarrett AllenINCVideo
Comment:George (LAC) jumps from point A to point B and delivers body contact to Allen (CLE) that affects his shot attempt near the rim.
Q400:04.6 Foul: ShootingPaul GeorgeDonovan MitchellICVideo
Comment:George (LAC) legally contests Mitchell's (CLE) jump shot attempt. Any "high-five" contact after the release is considered incidental.
Complete Report:
https://official.nba.com/l2m/L2MReport.html?gameId=0022200158

The non-calls were decisive in favor of the Clippers. At the time of the final foul, the Clippers led by 4, so it was very unlikely to effect the outcome.
 
Sometimes you just don’t have it. The problem with this game is the Cavs had “it” (meaning guys were hitting shots) but lost to an inferior team.

Takeaways after watching the replay and not being brainwashed by the game thread:
- careless offensive possessions in the 4th, but also in the 1st half DG shot 2-3 really shitty 3-balls.
- Cedi got almost no chance to play, and Neto got zero chance. Strange.
- JBB rode DG and Mitchell hard early in the 4th and then couldn’t take them out when things got tight. Fatigue was a factor perhaps. Love didn’t have enough lift on his last couple shots too.
- JBB is just constantly on the refs 24/7. It’s pretty annoying. I didn’t have any major complaints above the refs. The thing where Mann grabbed the net was very subtle. That would have been such a gift if they called it.
- Still don’t think LeVert should be starting. He can initiate more off the bench. Outside of Love we got little help off the bench offensively.
- Dumb use of the challenge.
 
gaitano said:
According to the NBA's 2 minute report there were 2 incorrect non-calls (INC) benefiting the Clippers and 1 incorrect foul call (IC) on the final foul.
Q401:26Foul: PersonalReggie JacksonDarius GarlandINCVideo
Comment:Jackson (LAC) initiates contact with Garland's (CLE) left arm, affecting Garland's SQBR and causing him to lose control of the ball.
Q401:11.6Foul: ShootingPaul GeorgeJarrett AllenINCVideo
Comment:George (LAC) jumps from point A to point B and delivers body contact to Allen (CLE) that affects his shot attempt near the rim.
Q400:04.6Foul: ShootingPaul GeorgeDonovan MitchellICVideo
Comment:George (LAC) legally contests Mitchell's (CLE) jump shot attempt. Any "high-five" contact after the release is considered incidental.
Complete Report:
https://official.nba.com/l2m/L2MReport.html?gameId=0022200158

The non-calls were decisive in favor of the Clippers. At the time of the final foul, the Clippers led by 4, so it was very unlikely to effect the outcome.
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I’d have to watch again, which I have no interest in, but I think I can recall at least 2 others.

Maybe they were prior to 2 mins.

It was bad
 
The Oi said:
I’d have to watch again, which I have no interest in, but I think I can recall at least 2 others.

Maybe they were prior to 2 mins.

It was bad
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It was bad, agreed.
Roughly 2:20 there was an offensive foul called on a LeVert 3 PA. On the replay it looked like it should have been a foul called on the Clippers defender who was hacking. Also there was what looked like an offensive goal-tending that was not called.
 
I just get so annoyed with the ticky tack calls we get against us when the raptors effectively dry hump their man all game for no call
 
cabs said:
I just get so annoyed with the ticky tack calls we get against us when the raptors effectively dry hump their man all game for no call
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Refs are creatures of habit! If they see that’s how you play every game they adjust their calls accordingly. But a finesse team like the Cavs can’t all of sudden start trying to play physical and expect to get the calls the Raptors do!
 
gaitano said:
It was bad, agreed.
Roughly 2:20 there was an offensive foul called on a LeVert 3 PA. On the replay it looked like it should have been a foul called on the Clippers defender who was hacking. Also there was what looked like an offensive goal-tending that was not called.
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Right. So total we’re lookig at a swing of like 10 points. Lol.

Insane.
 
Reading the cleveland.com column on the reffing it was clear we were robbed, especially on the Garland call, where he was fouled on the arm and should have gotten two shots. If he makes those free throws they Cavs are up by six with 1:26 to play. Instead, no foul was called and he lost the ball, then committed a dumb loose ball foul which resulted in two points for the Clippers with no time off the clock. That blown non-call was a four-point swing.

On the next possession Allen was blatantly fouled on a dunk attempt, costing the Cavs two more points. His shot banged off the rim for a long rebound and fast break for the Clippers, resulting in a 3-point play. That was a 5-point turnaround.

As I see it the refs cost us 9 points with those two calls. The bad call on Mitchell's 3-point attempt was not relevant unless he made the shot, which he didn't. It came with the Cavs down by 4 with under 10 seconds to play.

Still, if not for the bad pass by Garland that resulted in a breakaway dunk plus the two backcourt fouls by LeVert and Garland that led to four free throws with no time coming off the clock it wouldn't matter what the refs called.
 
Wham with the Right Hand said:
Reading the cleveland.com column on the reffing it was clear we were robbed, especially on the Garland call, where he was fouled on the arm and should have gotten two shots. If he makes those free throws they Cavs are up by six with 1:26 to play. Instead, no foul was called and he lost the ball, then committed a dumb loose ball foul which resulted in two points for the Clippers with no time off the clock. That blown non-call was a four-point swing.

On the next possession Allen was blatantly fouled on a dunk attempt, costing the Cavs two more points. His shot banged off the rim for a long rebound and fast break for the Clippers, resulting in a 3-point play. That was a 5-point turnaround.

As I see it the refs cost us 9 points with those two calls. The bad call on Mitchell's 3-point attempt was not relevant unless he made the shot, which he didn't. It came with the Cavs down by 4 with under 10 seconds to play.

Still, if not for the bad pass by Garland that resulted in a breakaway dunk plus the two backcourt fouls by LeVert and Garland that led to four free throws with no time coming off the clock it wouldn't matter what the refs called.
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All of these calls impact the momentum of the game and the behavior of the players too. The Clippers knew they could get away with murder and the Cavs looked totally deflated. People are saying they were tired, which has some truth. But when the refs are clearly working you AND you’re tired it’s a whole different story.

If it wasn’t actually fixed, it was the worst called basketball game I’ve ever seen.

Felt like I was watching Lakers Kings.

Surreal.

Like I said…waiting for this one to be mentioned in a documentary.

Just need to be on the right side of it next time this happens. Clearly there’s something the league wants out of games that they weren’t getting from the Cavs.
 
The Oi said:
All of these calls impact the momentum of the game and the behavior of the players too. The Clippers knew they could get away with murder and the Cavs looked totally deflated. People are saying they were tired, which has some truth. But when the refs are clearly working you AND you’re tired it’s a whole different story.

If it wasn’t actually fixed, it was the worst called basketball game I’ve ever seen.

Felt like I was watching Lakers Kings.

Surreal.

Like I said…waiting for this one to be mentioned in a documentary.

Just need to be on the right side of it next time this happens. Clearly there’s something the league wants out of games that they weren’t getting from the Cavs.
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Bottom line the Cavs blew a 12 point with under three minutes to go! The bad part is half of the Clippers 12-0 run was FTs with the clock not running because we were fouling them while they were in the bonus!
Let’s be real……it’s only one game, we still have the second best record in the entire league and we have a “get back on track” game tonight against the Kings (I will be at that game tonight….got great seats on Vivid Seats….mid court and 8 rolls up from the floor). They need to come out aggressive and blow the Kings out of Golden 1 onto J Street!
GO CAVS!!!!!
 
Ohioplayer00 said:
Bottom line the Cavs blew a 12 point with under three minutes to go! The bad part is half of the Clippers 12-0 run was FTs with the clock not running because we were fouling them while they were in the bonus!
Let’s be real……it’s only one game, we still have the second best record in the entire league and we have a “get back on track” game tonight against the Kings (I will be at that game tonight….got great seats on Vivid Seats….mid court and 8 rolls up from the floor). They need to come out aggressive and blow the Kings out of Golden 1 onto J Street!
GO CAVS!!!!!
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No doubt it has been and will continue to be a great season. Enjoy the game!
 
Garland horrible and blowing another one
 
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