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ESPN got wind of it... Shanny's as good as gone. Bright young coach, IMO.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...-soured-cleveland-browns-friction-report-said

This franchise, man... Jesus.

Stop supporting them.

They're the worst in football and among the worst in sports. They're a blight on the city.

They've gone from being owned by a rube to a crook, and both of them are losers from a team ownership standpoint. Losers hire losers who pick losers.

This team is in for another generation of this and will be blowing the whole thing up again next year.
 
The Steelers are as three years ago as a raw vegan restaurant that literally serves human dicks.
 
Not going to be surprised if Shanahan leaves for a lateral move. Even when the offense was highly effective early in the season it appeared the Browns were running a more limited range of plays compared to the playbooks Shanahan employed at his earlier stops. Initially I expected the offense to gradually expand and diversify as the season went on but that didn't really happen.

Given his track record as a play caller my thought was that he felt limited by the roster in some way. He did some reputation repair by staying out of the headlines and avoiding any kind of accusations like what he faced in Washington. Career wise it might make the most sense for Shanahan to head for greener pastures if he can't land an HC job.

In the event he does leave does anyone have a list of candidates to keep an eye on?
 
Stop supporting them.

They're the worst in football and among the worst in sports. They're a blight on the city.

They've gone from being owned by a rube to a crook, and both of them are losers from a team ownership standpoint. Losers hire losers who pick losers.

This team is in for another generation of this and will be blowing the whole thing up again next year.

All facts, no argument here. I havent actually bought a ticket in a few years, rarely make it to a game anymore, but the Browns are part of my DNA unfortunately. I watch every game and I just cant opt out. My plight in life I guess.

My son will be 2 in August, so I have a similar ethical decision as you. For the life of me I cant understand why such a great fan base is saddled (by fate, it seems) with such a cursed franchise and a never ending wave of idiots running it.

It's going to take a fluke, accidental hiring of the next Parcells/Belichick type of coach to turn this around. Hopefully before I die, right?
 
The Steelers are as three years ago as a raw vegan restaurant that literally serves human dicks.

That's like saying that eating hamburgers is blasé.

Some things are a staple of Americana and will never stop being great.

The Steelers organization is a delicious medium rare burger with all of your favorite ingredients and a perfectly melted piece of cheese. Sometimes it's bison and sometimes it's Kobe. Other years it's just a regular burger.

But it's always good and it always will be.

The Browns are a McDonald's hamburger that got dropped on the ground and kicked around for a while and that even the rats don't want to eat anymore.
 
once Hoyer is in an offense like Philly, KC, Chicago or Houston with a short rhythm passing game, featuring decent size and speed with the receivers, he will look like an Alex Smith type starter.

Not gonna lie, I'm really excited to see if this happens.

I don't see it happening, but if it does then it will tell us a lot about our team and that will be a good thing.
 
All facts, no argument here. I havent actually bought a ticket in a few years, rarely make it to a game anymore, but the Browns are part of my DNA unfortunately. I watch every game and I just cant opt out. My plight in life I guess.

My son will be 2 in August, so I have a similar ethical decision as you. For the life of me I cant understand why such a great fan base is saddled (by fate, it seems) with such a cursed franchise and a never ending wave of idiots running it.

It's going to take a fluke, accidental hiring of the next Parcells/Belichick type of coach to turn this around. Hopefully before I die, right?

We're on the same page. The Browns need more of you.
 
Not going to be surprised if Shanahan leaves for a lateral move. Even when the offense was highly effective early in the season it appeared the Browns were running a more limited range of plays compared to the playbooks Shanahan employed at his earlier stops. Initially I expected the offense to gradually expand and diversify as the season went on but that didn't really happen.

Given his track record as a play caller my thought was that he felt limited by the roster in some way. He did some reputation repair by staying out of the headlines and avoiding any kind of accusations like what he faced in Washington. Career wise it might make the most sense for Shanahan to head for greener pastures if he can't land an HC job.

In the event he does leave does anyone have a list of candidates to keep an eye on?

They're all aboard the Charlie Weis train once Shanny leaves.

The Shanahan situation isn't about team personnel, aka the players, we need to clear that up right away. This is about his relationship with the non-coaching staff personnel. Calling down to the sidelines telling him which plays to run and which players should play and shit like that.

Not sure if anyone listened to LaCanfora today but here's some tidbits...... I'm embarrassed for this city. It gets worse but it's too depressing.

“It’s pretty bad,” La Canfora said. “The bottom has dropped out there. I don’t know where it is good….There’s going to be a lot of pressure on a lot of people to get better and it’s probably going to take a hell of an offseason to do that. I do not hear a lot of great things about the climate in that building right now.”

“I hear that it is not great there between the front office side and the coaching side,” La Canfora said. “We’ll see. there’s a lot of issues at quarterback, a lot of issues on the offensive side of the ball in general, a lot of issues with skill positions.

“It’s going to be a year where it’s going to be a do or die year for everybody in that building. (With) Jimmy Haslam, you last 2 years there and you’ve beat the odds.”

“You got to look at the owner,” LaCanfora said. “There’s been unrest there, obviously it was there before this owner but this is just like Washington or Oakland or any of these other situations. When this is a perpetual problem, look at the guy who signs all of the checks. It starts there. And until things get cleaned up from the top on down, you don’t win from the bottom on up, you win from the top on down. I don’t know. It’s not good.”

He also said coaches would "run screaming from Manziel" but the owner won't allow it. Thinks Manziel and Gordon should be gone to "salvage the culture of the building".
 
And there it is.

In Cleveland, you've got two of the most charismatic and incompetent owners in sports.
 
If the raiders hire Pat Shurmur, they will still have a brighter future than this damn team.

Shurmur was the head coach of the Cleveland Browns. The Cleveland Browns. Look at this mess of an organization.

You will never hear me bash a Browns coach ever again, even Chud who I think was a moron, knowing what we now know. The dysfunction starts way above the heads of the coaching staff and they shouldn't be blamed in any way.
 
Lets not forget that LaCanfora is a toad and butt buddies with Lombardi.
 
Hey, remember when I nailed the Shanahan story five hours before ESPN. Then b00bie argued with me... Then he was wrong?

Awesome, right?
 
@Randolphkeys instigating. Clearly some bad blood between @AZ_ and him.

Let's see how boobie handles this vicious attack.
 
Is it really too much to ask to keep a HC, OC and DC around for consecutive years?

Year HC OC DC
1999 Palmer Palmer Slowik
2000 Palmer Carmichael Crennel
2001 Davis Arians Fazio
2002
Davis Arians Fazio
2003 Davis Arians Campo
2004 Davis Robiskie Campo
2005 Crennel Carthon Grantham
2006
Crennel Carthon Grantham
2007 Crennel Chudzinksi Grantham
2008 Crennel Chudzinksi Tucker
2009 Mangini Dabol Ryan
2010
Mangini Dabol Ryan
2011 Shurmur Shurmur Jauron
2012 Shurmur Childress Jauron
2013 Chudzinksi Turner Horton
2014 Pettine Shanahan O'Neil

In 16 seasons, we've had the same HC, OC and DC in consecutive years 3 times. I know many of these guys left and haven't done much afterwards but dumping guys after a season is no way to conduct business.
 

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