Johnny Manziel: Swan Won't Return His Calls

[Ohio]

I've never tried reverse jinxing the draft...hmm

 

[Otsego Mar]

Gurley and Perriman - sounds like an ambiguously gay duo.

 

[AZ_]

Glad to see your enjoying a systematic walk down memory lane.

sometimes someone has to fail to succeed. johnny's giving himself a chance to do so

Sometimes players are overhyped terrible.

 

[Surge]

The Browns seem to be giving just the tip of a let down here for all those fans that want them to move up for Mariota.

He's our QB, boys.

Just the tip is a dangerous game, my friend...

 

[Huber.]

Perfect time for these type of articles.

Improve his trade value?

 

[Snowblind]

Improve his trade value?

I mean it could improve his trade value a bit, but also it could show that we might stick with him and not trade up. Now everyone is talking about drafting a RB in the first now.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

None of what you just said refutes anything in my post.

Are we discussing Manziel or Dion? Some of the excuses seem remarkably similar....

Manziel has nobody to blame for last year but himself. If he fixes it, great. If not, in the words of Steven Tyler "Nobody's fault but mine".

 

[AZ_]

Are we discussing Manziel or Dion? Some of the excuses seem remarkably similar....

Manziel has nobody to blame for last year but himself. If he fixes it, great. If not, in the words of Steven Tyler "Nobody's fault but mine".

It's only been (insert arbitrary time frame here), his new work ethic and commitment to not getting shitfaced on weekends will turn him into the player we all thought he could be.....


.....Which is a weak armed risk-taker with little idea how to run an offense competently or the ability to stay consistent mechanically.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

It's only been (insert arbitrary time frame here), his new work ethic and commitment to not getting shitfaced on weekends will turn him into the player we all thought he could be.....


.....Which is a weak armed risk-taker with little idea how to run an offense competently or the ability to stay consistent mechanically.

Maybe. I'm withholding judgment either way until after the offseason, simply because forming an opinion now seems pointless to me. He's either going to get a chance to show his ability, or he'll suck so badly they won't let him see the field. Either way, we'll know more than we do now.

 

[Binkster]

My favorite part of the 2015 pre-draft evals are all of the people who were pro-Manziel last year, citing all of the reasons against guys like Mariota and the rest of the non-Winston QB prospects.

I mean you literally campaigned to draft one of the worst first round QB prospects in the last 20 years, but guys like Chuck Booms claim they will kill themselves if we draft Mariota (add that to the Pros column for Mariota).

2014 pro-Manziel media/fans alike - your credibility is infinitely languished. So please stop.

This isn't to say Mariota will be a surefire pick but when compared side-by-side with Manziel... Sheesh, the two prospects aren't even on the same planet.

Brandon Weeden looks like a dream scenario compared to Johnny.

 

[SixPACK]

Brandon Weeden looks like a dream scenario compared to Johnny.

I would rather Johnny wear a drinking helmet while playing and be our QB than this...a flag can sack him. A flag.

 

[spydy13]

My favorite part of the 2015 pre-draft evals are all of the people who were pro-Manziel last year, citing all of the reasons against guys like Mariota and the rest of the non-Winston QB prospects.

I mean you literally campaigned to draft one of the worst first round QB prospects in the last 20 years, but guys like Chuck Booms claim they will kill themselves if we draft Mariota (add that to the Pros column for Mariota).

2014 pro-Manziel media/fans alike - your credibility is infinitely languished. So please stop.

This isn't to say Mariota will be a surefire pick but when compared side-by-side with Manziel... Sheesh, the two prospects aren't even on the same planet.

Brandon Weeden looks like a dream scenario compared to Johnny.

People learn from their mistakes.

I'm not sure why so many people that have so far correctly predicted that Johnny would be a mess have blinders on when it comes to Mariota.

Watching the National Championship game I saw a guy that is a system QB that is not very accurate and can be shut down if you don't let him run.

I mean I get that I'm going to get blasted because I'm one of the guys who says give Johnny a chance, but that's only because we already took him and so I hope that he can beat the odds and be somewhat decent so that we didn't totally burn a pick.

 

[Amherstcavsfan]

I'll listen to the argument that Johnny doesn't have the technique to win from the pocket.

But I'll never concede that he has a weak arm. That's just not true. His arm is, at worst, average.

His commitment is refreshing, but ultimately, I don't know if it matters at all.

 

[Phills14]

I'll listen to the argument that Johnny doesn't have the technique to win from the pocket.

But I'll never concede that he has a weak arm. That's just not true. His arm is, at worst, average.

His commitment is refreshing, but ultimately, I don't know if it matters at all.

When he sets his feet and throws I agree with you, his arm is average. Unfortunately for him and all of us, he does that exactly 0 times per game. Throwing off his back leg, jump throws, throwing across his body are the norm from Mr Football.

 

[Damien O'Connel]

I see Johnny gun throws. I don't get it.