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Kevin Love - Miami Ground Machine

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Is Kevin Love a Hero for Saving a Dog?

  • Yes

    Votes: 28 48.3%
  • Too Right!

    Votes: 2 3.4%
  • Hotter than Jimmy G

    Votes: 15 25.9%
  • Jim Chones

    Votes: 13 22.4%

  • Total voters
    58
Old man Duncan touches the ball every possession. Tony Parker also runs pick and rolls/pops with him.

Kevin Love would love to get the ball and produce like that. In fact, that's exactly what Kevin did with Ricky Rubio in Minnesota. The result was two 26 PPG and 12 RPG+ seasons.

The problem is that when he drives to the basket he gets stuffed -- he is shooting 25% on drives this season! That jump hook has been a bit better when he can get it rolling, but he rarely gets the opportunity to.

I will say one thing: there are only two choices at this point. Either Kevin Love is a mediocre player or David Blatt is not coaching him well at all. It is very hard to imagine a scenario where David Blatt is getting all he can out of this team *and* Kevin Love is truly an all-star calibre player.
 
The problem is that when he drives to the basket he gets stuffed -- he is shooting 25% on drives this season! That jump hook has been a bit better when he can get it rolling, but he rarely gets the opportunity to.

When that happens, Kyrie and LeBron need to run pick and pops with him at the elbow.
 
Wanting the third option to always be involved in every single game

Some of yall will never be happy

follow Chris bosh life with the Miami
He was the playoff performer

tired of these Chris Bosh comparisons. You think a healthy Bosh would EVER sit the 4th quarter of a Heat game that wasn't a blowout? Bosh was a key part of the defense always and his offensive efficiency made him very important in freeing up Wade and Lebron.
 
With the season almost over, I was curious to see how Kevin Love's first season with LeBron measured against Chris Bosh's first season with LeBron.

2014-2015 Kevin Love vs. 2010-2011 Chris Bosh

1. Kevin's stats are comparable to Bosh's first year in Miami. Kevin [21.7% USG] is used even less than Bosh [23.5% USG] was.

You'll notice their TS% is also almost identical.

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2. Kevin's current 33 double-doubles through 64 games is more than Bosh's entire 2010-2011 season @ 28 through 77 games.

Apparently Kevin Love is a more productive PF than Bosh even when Kevin's asked to stay on the perimeter and Bosh is allegedly banging in the post...

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Yeah, this is a case where stats are not telling you the story. Bosh was a far better defensive player than Love, in fact he was key to what they were doing defensively. Also TS% rewards three-point specialists. Bosh was FAR more efficient than Love any place inside the arc and gave the Heat more offensive options, Love's only effective offense this year has been hanging around the 3-point line and waiting to be open.

Rebounding, it does seem like Love has been better, but he hasn't seemed very effective as a clutch rebounder fus this season.
 
Things are inconsistent right now. Very "touch-and-go". Love has played well at times and poorly other times. He has fought through injuries to himself and other key teammates that change the dynamics of how we play. A lot of roster changes as well.

Over time, consistency will settle in. Things will be better on a more regular basis. We will eventually become a well oiled machine, because now we have all of the parts in place. All we need now is health, time and practice.
 
Bosh was a far better defensive player than Love, in fact he was key to what they were doing defensively.

The only reason Bosh was a better defensive player was because his length allowed more blocks. Beyond that, the differences are an exaggeration. That's why the defensive ratings look similar.

But i'm confused about that TS% comment? FG% calculates three-pointers as well.
 
The problem is that when he drives to the basket he gets stuffed -- he is shooting 25% on drives this season! That jump hook has been a bit better when he can get it rolling, but he rarely gets the opportunity to.

I will say one thing: there are only two choices at this point. Either Kevin Love is a mediocre player or David Blatt is not coaching him well at all. It is very hard to imagine a scenario where David Blatt is getting all he can out of this team *and* Kevin Love is truly an all-star calibre player.

It's hard to make all your players shine when you have so much talent... it's not the TWolves where he was practucally the only offensive option and everything went to him. If anybody expected him to average 25/10 than their crazy. The fact that he averages 16/10 I think is great... when Lebron and Kyrie are the main offensive players you cant expect him to put the same numbers, it's not fair to him and not fair to the coaching to stuff the expect it
 
The only reason Bosh was a better defensive player was because his length allowed more blocks. Beyond that, the differences are an exaggeration. That's why the defensive ratings look similar.

But i'm confused about that TS% comment? FG% calculates three-pointers as well.

TS effectively upweights your 3 point percentage to account for the fact that 3 pointers count for more. So in calculating TS% a 33% FG percentage from 3 counts the same as a 50 percent FG% from 2-point range. (A 50% 2 point percentage gives you an expected value of 1 point per shot taken and so does a 33% 3 point percentage).
 
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/1...recent-success-helped-cope-personal-struggles

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Cleveland forward Kevin Love said the team's recent stretch of success has helped him cope with lingering struggles with his role and health as the Cavaliers gain momentum heading toward the playoffs.

Love continues to deal with soreness in his back and found himself benched again in the fourth quarter of Cleveland's overtime victory Thursday in San Antonio. But with the Cavaliers (42-25) having won 23 of their past 28 games to surge to second place in the East, Love said it's no time to sulk.

The three-time All-Star denied that he might need a procedure after the season to address any specific concerns but acknowledged that he has been dealing with stiffness and recurring back spasms since November.

"It's something I want to get right before we get to the playoffs, because that's what's most important at this point," Love, 26, told ESPN.com before Saturday's practice in preparation for Sunday's game against the Magic. "It's not something that's -- I'm going to have to address my body. But I address my body every offseason. I'll go from my toe all the way up to my head to try to figure out how to better my body for next season. It's not something that's going to bother me down the road."

Love has the option to become a free agent after the season or return to Cleveland and accept a contract that is projected to be worth $109 million over five years. He has offered no hints regarding his offseason plans and instead has focused on trying to find a comfort zone with his role on a team that has undergone multiple trades and roster tweaks throughout the season.

Thursday's thrilling victory over the Spurs featured a furious fourth-quarter rally from a double-figure deficit highlighted by a career-high 57-point effort from point guard Kyrie Irving. But the game also marked at least the third time this season that Love was left on the bench for the entire fourth quarter.

Love did re-enter the game in overtime and finished with eight points, five rebounds and two assists in 33 minutes, but it snapped a 10-game streak in which he had scored in double figures.

Although February and March have been Love's least productive months of the season, the team has been able to gradually develop chemistry as coach David Blatt has sorted through various lineups since Cleveland recently acquired Timofey Mozgov, J.R. Smith, Iman Shumpert andKendrick Perkins.

"It's still a work in progress, but I think I've figured it out a little better," said Love, who has leaned on advice former coach and executive Kevin McHale once gave him while in Minnesota. "It's like McHale used to tell me: Just go where they ain't. Just go out there and try to space the floor as best as I can."

It's been far from a comfortable process for Love, who would like a better balance of touches around the basket and looks from 3-point range while creating space for Irving and LeBron Jamesto operate. Love has attempted 335 shots from 3-point range, which are the second-most of his career. But his 16.8 points a game are the fewest since his second season and the 10.1 rebounds he's averaging are the fewest since he was a rookie in the 2008-09 season.

Earlier this season, Love and James clashed publicly over how aggressively Love should try to adapt his game to fit the Cavaliers' preferred playing style. James suggested again Saturday that the process hasn't necessarily been easy for anyone, including Love, because of all of the moving parts.

"I think it's a work in progress for all of us still, probably a little more for him," James said as the Cavaliers prepare for their final 15 games. "The biggest thing is that Kevin is very, very, very good basketball player. And in order for us to be very successful ultimately, we need him to play at a higher level. That doesn't mean scoring. Everybody gets so caught up in scoring. We have enough scoring. It's not about one individual scoring the ball. It's about doing everything else."

Blatt said the team should be beyond worrying about roles or playing time. But after seeing his team hoist 58 shots from 3-point range in the last two games, Blatt, in perhaps a subtle reference to getting Love more paint touches, said he would like the team to "try to exhaust the possibility of getting the ball inside" as opposed to just spotting up around the perimeter.

"I don't think that needs to be a major concern," Blatt said. "What needs to be a major concern is the winning and the losing. That's what's important; how the team is playing. Everybody gets their chance sooner or later. We've been pretty consistent about how we've managed minutes. So that's not an issue with us."

Love has spent much of the season trying to prevent his challenge of fitting in and finding a rhythm from becoming a distraction to the team. The recent success on the court has made the process far less of a hassle.

"Everything is easier when you're winning," Love said. "So you can have some really good games, and then some tough times. The rotation might be different. But as long as you're winning, it kind of makes up for everything. And that's the kind of way it's been here."
 
LOL. It says "he has offered no hints about his offseason plans..." Uh, yeah he has. He's flat out said he's not going anywhere. Those exact words.
 
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/1...recent-success-helped-cope-personal-struggles

Although February and March have been Love's least productive months of the season, the team has been able to gradually develop chemistry as coach David Blatt has sorted through various lineups since Cleveland recently acquired Timofey Mozgov, J.R. Smith, Iman Shumpert andKendrick Perkins.

Based on what? We have had various stats, posted on this very forum, that show February and March as Love's best months of the season. I really hate how much the E-Spin writers do so little research. The following quotes show just how well Kevin is performing over those two months so far. Doesn't seem to be at all like the scene the article painted. Least productive my ass.

Fun facts I ran across this morning looking up stuff for another post:

Since Feb 1

Kevin Love has the best Offensive Rating on the Cavs. Meaning the team scores more points per 100 possessions with him on the floor than any other Cavs player. (Followed by Lebron, then Moz, then Kyrie).

Kevin Love has the third best Defensive Rating on the Cavs (behind only Mozgov and Shump)

Kevin Love has the best Defensive Rebounding % on the Cavs by a mile (and only Tristan outpaces him in overall Rebounding %)

Kevin Love has the fourth best True Shooting % on the Cavs, ahead of both Kyrie and Lebron.

Translation, IMO: The guy is starting to pick it up.

RANDOM OTHER STAT: The team plays its fastest pace by far when Mozgov is on the floor. Amazing. What trade that was.

Amazing people are still on here whining about this guy.

February:

44.3% FG, 58.2% TS, 15.9 PPG, 9.7 REB, 2.2 AST

Last 10:


45.5% FG, 60.4% TS, 17.6 PPG, 9.9 REB, 2.2 AST

Last 5:

48.1% FG, 64.5% TS, 16.4 PPG, 10 REB, 2.2 AST

His shooting percentage has slowly risen every month since December, probably indicating he's getting more comfortable in his role. Everything seems to be trending the right way with K-Love, which is great heading down the stretch.

Oh and that is our THIRD option....insane.


I would like to thank theSTEREO, I'mWithDan, and L-Train for helping to keep us informed. Most importantly, this clearly shows how far off and ignorant that writer is.
 
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Based on what? We have had various stats, posted on this very forum, that show February and March as Love's best months of the season. I really hate how much the E-Spin writers do so little research. The following quote shows just how well Kevin is performing over those two months so far. Doesn't seem to be at all like the scene the article painted. Least productive my ass.
Wow. Unreal.

Didn't even catch that in the article.
 
Kevin starting to pick up LeBron's psychological warfare with the media habits. Love it.
 
Wow. Unreal.

Didn't even catch that in the article.

Crazy, isn't it. I almost stopped reading after I came across that line. So much bad information being tossed about out there by writers who haven't a clue. Worst part is that people will start to believe them.
 

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