Matthew Dellavedova

[Jscc]

I just picture Delly on San Antonio. Would Pop keep him glued to the end of the bench? He'd love tossing him out there for a change of pace.

Now that you mention it, Delly does remind me of a defensive version of Ginobili with how he plays and sacrifices.

 

[Redzone]

I don't see how Dan, Blatt or LeBron let Delly go elsewhere. He has more value here as a folk hero than anywhere else. He was also valuable, although the announcers without ties to Delly's agent did not go ga ga over him in the playoffs as did those with ties to LeBron's agent (i.e., Mark Jackon) did so much for Tristan.

You just can't have enough Dellys on your team. It's that simple.

With a movie being made about him (with generous artistic liberty) and near legend status back home here and down under, the Delly story and hype don't get completed by making $500,000 more on a non contender. It gets completed with a Finals championship.

Delly is not looking for the last dollar. I think he and his agent gets it.

 

[Paul]

3 years 10 mil, I think that would work for all parties.


...although damn even Crowder got 7 mil a year...

 

[thunder_down_under]

I don't see how Dan, Blatt or LeBron let Delly go elsewhere. He has more value here as a folk hero than anywhere else. He was also valuable, although the announcers without ties to Delly's agent did not go ga ga over him in the playoffs as did those with ties to LeBron's agent (i.e., Mark Jackon) did so much for Tristan.

You just can't have enough Dellys on your team. It's that simple.

With a movie being made about him (with generous artistic liberty) and near legend status back home here and down under, the Delly story and hype don't get completed by making $500,000 more on a non contender. It gets completed with a Finals championship.

Delly is not looking for the last dollar. I think he and his agent gets it.

Agree with you...I don't se Delly chasing the last dollar and going to another team...he should be and will be a Cav for life...who else personifies Cleveland more than Delly...his jersey sales alone will pay for his salary...3/$10-12m... let's get it done...bring the whole band back...except JR, not sure about him

 

[susztermatt]

Delly deserves the 2016 championship title, something he will get only with the Cavs.

 

[NeilR]

I just have to say I'm still confused by Nate's argument. He says Delly isn't a traditional PG. But he also says that this team doesn't need a traditional PG.

So then why the hell can't Delly be the non-traditional backup PG for a team that uses non-traditional PG's?

Delly's role in the season is to rest KI, who clearly cannot go a full season of very high minutes. So it is in the teams interest to play the 3/4 PG's a lot during the season IF wins can be had that way. What concerns me is that KI will look down on this as he want's to chase stats and all star position. Think of the spurs: the goal is to get to the playoffs in a reasonable position, but with all of your players in peak condition and with team harmony and cohesion at a high level - sure as hell did not happen this year.

 

[NasstyNate]

Edited - Really, everyone who asked for the personal stuff to end were doing you a favor.

I am just confident Delly will be back and answer these critiques with his play.

I'm confident he will be back too.

I really do struggle to think of active elite point guard defenders who achieved more than Delly in the playoffs. It was a performance for the ages before he spent the night in the hospital. Even afterward, he was very good defensively, Curry was just better.

What's your definition of achieved? Is it to be an unheralded guy who comes up big for a couple games? Totally agree with you if that is the case. He was great in Game 2 and really good in Game 3. Performance for the ages is a little much, but I'm prone to hyperbole too, so I can't disagree with that assessment for Game 2. I also think the hospital stuff is a red herring. My explanation is GSW didn't game plan for him during the week before the finals and Curry was really not ready for Delly's physical play in contrast to Irving. Classic backup QB game. Curry/Kerr then figured Delly out after a couple games and that's all she wrote. Can't really blame Delly though considering he's guarding the MVP.

As for the playoffs overall? He was average. Wall, MCW, Evans, Cole, Paul, Curry and Teague were all better than him. NBA.com has a great page that tracks the normal FG% of a player and the difference when guarded by someone. Delly was right in the middle for differential. Let me know if that link didn't work. I think that's about right for Delly. Uses his BBIQ and physical play to disrupt shots, but is just too physically limited to consistently check starting caliber guards. Especially when teams plan for him. Which is totally fine for a backup guard. Just showing that you are hyping his defense way way too much.

And because I know you are going to respond to this Q-Tip, Delly was 4.1 percentage points better than Bazemore on FG% differential.

 

[ptw1]

Blah, blah, blah I'm immature.


I'm confident he will be back too.


What's your definition of achieved? Is it to be an unheralded guy who comes up big for a couple games? Totally agree with you if that is the case. He was great in Game 2 and really good in Game 3. Performance for the ages is a little much, but I'm prone to hyperbole too, so I can't disagree with that assessment for Game 2. I also think the hospital stuff is a red herring. My explanation is GSW didn't game plan for him during the week before the finals and Curry was really not ready for Delly's physical play in contrast to Irving in Game 2. Classic backup QB game. Curry/Kerr then figured Delly out after a couple games and that's all she wrote. Can't really blame Delly though considering he's guarding the MVP.

As for the playoffs overall? He was average. Wall, MCW, Evans, Cole, Paul, Curry and Teague were all better than him. NBA.com has a great page that tracks the normal FG% of a player and the difference when guarded by someone. Delly was right in the middle for differential. Let me know if that link didn't work. I think that's about right for Delly. Uses his BBIQ and physical play to disrupt shots, but is just too physically limited to consistently check starting caliber guards. Especially when teams plan for him. Which is totally fine for a backup guard. Just showing that you are hyping his defense way way too much.

And because I know you are going to respond to this Q-Tip, Delly was 4.1 percentage points better than Bazemore on FG% differential.

great post. I love Delly but he's not this elite defender some try to make him out to be. as i've mentioned before, he's slightly above average defensively. Offensively, he's below average. he's an end of the bench player. that's not a knock because that makes him one of the best players in the world. But the cavs need an upgrade for their backup pg.

 

[Kbiz]

Based on the market set yesterday, I am thinking a 3 year, 12-15 million deal is probably what we are looking at for Thunda from down Unda.

 

[Randolphkeys]

Any statistic that promotes Norris Cole's playoff performance at point guard last month isn't worth the click. He rarely got anyone engaged offensively besides Davis and the Warriors swept the series easily. He had one game in which his shot was falling, but he failed to get a single assist in the loss. I have no interest in comparing Cole's impact in four straight losses to Delly's impact in 20 games which took him from an unknown to one of the most discussed athletes in May.

 

[I'mWithDan]

Based on the market set yesterday, I am thinking a 3 year, 12-15 million deal is probably what we are looking at for Thunda from down Unda.

$5 million a year for Delly would be a crazy overpay.

Devin Harris - $4 million
Patty Mills - $3.5 million
Randy Foye - $3.1 million
DJ Augustin - $3 million
Jerryd Bayless - $3 million

3 years, 12 million with a starting salary at $2.75 million is his market.

If he wants $4-4.5 to start, which would get him to a $15 million number, you find a cheaper option with Haywood’s contract IMO.

 

[Derek]

We're about to be paying nearly $300 million for our roster this upcoming season. Not sure how much it matters if Delly gets an extra million to start his deal.

I just hope we manage to bring in another PG to help maximize Delly's impact on this team. Keep him in that 10-15 minute/game role where he can just go all out on defense, and shoot the 2-3 open jumpers he gets. I would absolutely love to get Patty Mills in here.

 

[Cavatt]

Delly had some big assist games. People are forgetting that GS plan was to shut everyone but Lebron down. they took away the lob and some of Delly's bread and butter plays that usually give him 3-5 assist. Also, neither JR or Iman was hitting on 3's which took away some assist from Delly swinging the ball around the perimeter which he is pretty good at.

I think Delly gets those hockey assists more than other pg because his play encourages ball movement. Most backup pg's are combo guards that are score first.

 

[NasstyNate]

Any statistic that promotes Norris Cole's playoff performance at point guard last month isn't worth the click. He rarely got anyone engaged offensively besides Davis and the Warriors swept the series easily. He had one game in which his shot was falling, but he failed to get a single assist in the loss.

Well this sounds familiar.

Delly:
ECF Game 3 - 2 assists
Finals Game 2 - 1 assist
Finals Game 5 - 2 assists
Finals Game 6 - 2 assists

 

[Cratylus]

Well this sounds familiar.

Delly:
ECF Game 3 - 2 assists
Finals Game 2 - 1 assist
Finals Game 5 - 2 assists
Finals Game 6 - 2 assists

Since that's the game you want to play...

Norris Cole:
WCF Game 3 - 0 assists
Finals Game 2 - 0 assists
Finals Game 5 - 0 assists
Finals Game 6 - 0 assists