Matthew Dellavedova

[Real Deal]

I liked Delly more when he was getting minimum minutes, in which you seen more of the good because he had stand out plays like that defensive possession that got the entire crowd up standing before even knowing the outcome of the shot. I remember that. He needs to go back to low minutes to be more effective, he hasnt adjusted well. That way we don't notice more of the bad with his extended playing time. He's the backup point guard for now and I have to accept that as well.

 

[Randolphkeys]

Its time to forget about last season.

You have to look at last season to see how the roster was constructed this season. Otherwise you are a goldfish swimming into the side of a fish tank year after year. I think missed free throws or missed threes at the end of a game can erase some good moments elsewhere (like a 4:1 assist to turnover ratio playing twice as many minutes as he should).

Again, Delly came off a month long injury and played very well when the team was healthy in a backup point guard role. Once injuries hit, he has been out of position as a swingman defensive stopper and playing starters minutes. If Waiters could have defended anybody those minutes could have been his. If James Jones or Mike Miller were able to move their feet like they did four years ago, they would be in there. But for the past month, Delly was the closest we had to a passable perimeter defender.

Failing to understand that this is a team game and scapegoating either Love or Delly for being healthy and doing things any scout would say aren't their strengths seems even more unreal to me. It's like stabbing your step parents for grounding you after your parents fucked you up. Figure out where the problem lies and you might just get somewhere... Damn where did that plate of glass come from? Ouch! Ooooh, look it's a plastic treasure chest!

 

[Omar The Horse]

I mean come on, that's just blurting out wild consequences like a drunk dad who caught his kid beating off.

Continue....

 

[Apollo 13]

So your saying if he makes 2 free throws at the end of the game vs the 4-28 sixers he is a good player?

Some of these posts just cant be real. Can't be.

This guy must have been an all-star here last season the amount of praise he has been given. Its time to forget about last season.

he was just as bad last year. He's not in a shooting slump he has never been able to shoot. He's had some decent games last year just like he will have this year. He needs someone to work on his shooting form and if he correct that he would be an ok player. His shooting form is ugly and even shoots free throws almost the same way. I'm surprised know one hasn't been working with him to correct it.

 

[Randolphkeys]

he was just as bad last year. He's not in a shooting slump he has never been able to shoot. He's had some decent games last year just like he will have this year. He needs someone to work on his shooting form and if he correct that he would be an ok player. His shooting form is ugly and even shoots free throws almost the same way. I'm surprised know one hasn't been working with him to correct it.

His shot has been streaky since college and I agree he still needs to work on his form. I think the bigger issue for Dellavedova offensively these past four weeks or so is that he is being put in a position where he is playing big minutes as something other than a playmaker for others. Even in the summer league, he was passing to Wiggins, Bennett, and even Cherry and Kirk before looking for his own shot. Get the better offensive players on the floor with Delly and he will get them open looks, and he will be an asset. Defenses and combinations on the floor have put him in a position to just shoot from the outside and create space for others... its not his strength yet. Hopefully it will be soon.

 

[killerkev369]

he was just as bad last year. He's not in a shooting slump he has never been able to shoot. He's had some decent games last year just like he will have this year. He needs someone to work on his shooting form and if he correct that he would be an ok player. His shooting form is ugly and even shoots free throws almost the same way. I'm surprised know one hasn't been working with him to correct it.

What are you basing this on? While I agree that shooting is not his strong suit, he is in fact in a shooting slump. He has been playing huge minutes since just about Christmas Day. He has been trying to play the role of a defensive guard as while also playing near starter minutes (which he does not have the athleticism really do). One could argue he has been in a month-long slump, which I would personally say began right around the game in Oklahoma City in mid-December. He does need to work on his form but he has certainly "never been able to shoot."

 

[mhi]

Let's remember why Delly was getting more minutes. He is the backup point guard making $816,000 a year. Why is he the backup PG on a cheap salary? He was better than Jarrett Jack who made 6.3 million, Karasev who made 1.5 million, and Waiters who made 4 million and proved over the course of last season they just couldn't run the offense better. Salary had to be cut to find room for some legitimate starters, and the overpaid fat was trimmed.

The bolded couldn't be farther from the truth.

The only reason he got minutes last year was because he was the only one interested in playing defense out of that group, for a defensive minded coach.

Never in his career will Matthew be better than any of those players, or be valued higher by any team other than last year's.

As far as his offense, again the only NBA level talent he has there is strictly spot up shooting. And if/when he's not giving you that, he is worthless on that end.

 

[Randolphkeys]

The bolded couldn't be farther from the truth.

The only reason he got minutes last year was because he was the only one interested in playing defense out of that group, for a defensive minded coach.

Never in his career will Matthew be better than any of those players, or be valued higher by any team other than last year's.

Mike Brown traded away none of those players, the new offensively motivated front office traded them. Blatt played Delly over Waiters for the past month, and he isn't named Mike Brown either. Some people just don't like Delly. I get it. But at least have some decent reasons...

As far as his offense, again the only NBA level talent he has there is strictly spot up shooting. And if/when he's not giving you that, he is worthless on that end.

I said the exact opposite. Dear God, this is a shit show.

 

[mhi]

Mike Brown traded away none of those players, the new offensively motivated front office traded them. Blatt played Delly over Waiters for the past month, and he isn't named Mike Brown either. Some people just don't like Delly. I get it. But at least have some decent reasons...

I take it I don't have to point out that he has been struggling terrible for that month ?

Again, Delly "playing over Waiters" is because he is doing what the coach asks him to do. That's not a talent or a skill. It's a disposition that has nothing to do with his skill level while out on the court.

 

[Randolphkeys]

Again, Delly "playing over Waiters" is because he is doing what the coach asks him to do. That's not a talent or a skill. It's a disposition that has nothing to do with his skill level while out on the court.

So you want to debate the definition of the word "skill?" One guy did what it takes to play, the others didn't.

Nope, better things to do. Good luck, dude.

 

[mhi]

No prob, Keys. Good luck as well in those better things.

The problems aren’t all on Love. The roster doesn’t contain a functional center. Cleveland wasted too many spots on Friends of LeBron who can’t play, and while Joe Harris and Matthew Dellavedova are charming sorts who have their moments, they shouldn’t play major rotation roles on a title contender.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/n...valier-new-york-knicks-oklahoma-city-thunder/

Overall great article, btw. Worth reading.

 

[Shakalu M.D.]

Talent wise, no he isn't better. There's a difference between talent, fit, and how you play the game.

Delly is absolutely a better fit for this team than any of the other guys Keys mentioned. It doesn't mean he'd beat any of them 1 on 1, but he's definitely the best choice of that group for this team's concept. Which is the point I think Keys was going for.

 

[thunder_down_under]

Despite all the talk on these pages, I think most critical observers of the game agree that Delly is a 10-15 minute per game guy that comes in and plays a role...with a fit squad he can create plays which negates the need for him to take shots that he is not capable of making. You can't hang a guy for doing a job that has to be done because of injuries and that he himself would say he does not have the skills to accomplish...but we had/have no one else to put on the floor. Hopefully Smith takes some of Delly's minutes and this will fix the problem...provided the right Smith turns up...fingers crossed
To the people talking about his shooting: yes he is not a great 2 point shooter, never has been. But his 3Point % is at .374...which is better than LBJ; better than Kyrie; better than Waiters; better than Tony Parker; better than many other back up point guards in the league...

 

[Pioneer10]

The three pointers he's taking are wide open though versus the comparison group which is tasked with creating offense . This is like comparing a guys NBA stats versus what he did on college.

 

[Randolphkeys]

No prob, Keys. Good luck as well in those better things.



http://grantland.com/the-triangle/n...valier-new-york-knicks-oklahoma-city-thunder/

Overall great article, btw. Worth reading.

I read it in the area of the website where members pay to have bad posters stay away. Thanks though.

TBH, Lowe is a good writer and I do like his work. I found that one line to be a little lazy, probably because he can't heap too much praise on a struggling Cavaliers team.