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A Mac aka The Truth said:
Whats the GPA of the football team? I bet that figure drops WAY down.
I'm not sure what the GPA is, but I know that the football team has led the Big Ten in Academic All Americans 3 of the last 4 years. That's the beauty of JT. Not only does he recruit top athletic talent, but he recruits good students as well as character.
 
ok, never had a problem with weiss, but this last press conference made me kinda pissed off - talking about how he was upset that his team got jumped in the rankings by a bye team. Dude, the season is half-way over. Worry about your games and your team. If you have a tough schedule and go undefeated, and then you don't make the NC game, then you can talk. Obviously Dame gets a good bowl game because they have a large following, so just shut the F up and play ball.
 
It's BS...everybody talks about how the Irish are media darlings....they arent. Thats the third time they have been jumped after a W. It's BS.

OSU does have some bright students...they have a pretty good field in med. science I believe. (Krenzel did this right?). But scouts.com posting that article just shows how bad of attention they need on their academics. But Im just curious to see what the football teams GPA is...other sports Im sure is pulling that way up for them.
 
Please help me to remember what BIG game he has won at ND. He is a coaching genius, right?

Weis got beat by USC at home, got pummeled by TOSU in Arizona, eeked out a win against GT, was embarrassed by Michican't at home, barely survived Sparty in Lansing, and finally scored late against a UCLA team that has no idea what defense is. Genius? If that's the case, then Tress is God of the geniuses!

...

By DJ Gallo

Special to Page 2 on ESPN

(The italics are direct quotes pulled from the transcript of Weis' news conference.)

"One of the teams [Tennessee] that jumped us had the same game that we had. They're down, they're playing at home and they win by a field goal. Another team [Florida] that jumped us wasn't even playing. They were at home eating cheeseburgers and they end up jumping us. That befuddles me."

Hey, care to know what befuddles me, Charlie? How the head coach of Notre Dame, a program which has consistently been overrated and ranked higher than it deserved to be for more than a decade -- and for most of the past century -- has the audacity to complain about polls. I mean … wow! That more than befuddles me.

And do you want to know what else befuddles me? How you were able to dupe Notre Dame into giving you a 10-year contract worth nearly $40 million after starting your career 5-2 without a single win against a team that finished the season ranked in the Top 25. That's a bit befuddling. As is the fact that you are regarded as some sort of football god even though the next good team your Fighting Irish beat will be the first. In your tenure you have played three good teams (so much for the perception that Notre Dame plays a brutal schedule, huh?): USC last October, Ohio State in the Fiesta Bowl and Michigan five weeks ago. You were blown out in two of those three games. But, yeah, you almost beat USC. Congratulations. Heck of a moral victory there. That's exactly why you were hired. For moral victories.

Let's see … what else befuddles me? Oh, yeah: How you claim to hold everything about Notre Dame sacred, yet spend every Saturday afternoon on the sideline dropping F-bombs every other word and cussing out officials, all in the shadow of "Touchdown Jesus" and with a priest standing a few yards away. Sure, that's being a bit picky, I suppose, but I'm #^&*ing befuddled by it nonetheless.

And the "home eating cheeseburgers" line? Very clever. But you should probably know that not everyone spends their free time gorging themselves on fast food. It's true. (I know, I know -- this revelation has you "befuddled" yet again.)

But, sorry, you asked that someone tell you how that works and I ignored your question and went off on a tangent. My apologies. So here's how it works. (I'm not a voter, but I have a notion of how it goes.) Voters watch college football games and then at the end of every weekend rank the teams from best to worst as they see fit. Based on this week's polls, the average voter thinks your team is currently no better than 10th or 11th. Understand how it works? It's really quite simple. And, in all honesty, Notre Dame probably is not even deserving of being that high, but the polls are still adjusting to having your team ranked way too high to start the season -- which is sort of a rankings tradition.

And one more thing, since you asked -- no, you're not stupid. But you know you're not stupid. You just think everyone else is. That's why you are so incredibly condescending when you speak. It's part of your "charm."
http://ohiostate.scout.com/2/584043.html

Tress is God of the geniuses. lol. Then that whole article from Page 2 was hilarious.
 
Yeah, but weiss can eat more "hamburgers" than Tressel. :thumbup:
 
Win, lose or Ty…Meanwhile, back to the football implications of Charlie Cheeseburger. I’ve been getting more hate mail than usual from Domer types castigating my insistence on making fun of Charlie’s physicality. The e-mails ebbed a bit after The Tuna’s F-bomb barrage on “Sixty Minutes”. But let’s return now to the football stuff, shall we? There’s still ample opportunity to poke at the big lug.

Even though it is commonly “accepted” that Notre Dame upgraded from Ty Willingham to Charlie, there is still some question if that’s really true or just another figment in the spin of “Mr. I Am Bigger Than The Program”. The games Charlie is winning right now are with Ty Willingham’s players. Who’s to say that Willingham wouldn’t be winning over mediocre teams with the same Brady Quinn and Darius Walker and Jeff Samardzija and Tommy Z? Let’s see how well the big cheese puff does once those guys are gone and he brings in “his own players”.

And another consideration: Ty Willingham is doing pretty darn good at turning around another mediocre program out there in Washington. While Notre Dame struggled mightily this year against a depleted UCLA squad, Ty’s Huskies beat them at full strength, 29-19. Ty barely lost to #10 Cal (31-24) at Cal. And here’s the game to really compare: Willingham lost in the last seconds to 19-point favorite USC (at USC) 26-20. Remember that score when Notre Dame gingerly ventures out there.
For a guy like Chunky Charlie that was Notre Dame's 3rd or 4th choice (John Gruden was offered and Urban Meyer turned down the job to go to Florida). You would think that would bring out a dose of hubris for the big fella, eh?
http://ohiostate.scout.com/2/587012.html

We'll have to keep an eye on this one. Stay tuned...
 
It’s official. Notre Dame has now been shelled by every ranked team they played this year. Both of them. :chuckles:

They had to make comebacks with three unranked teams in order not to be 7-5 right now. From the heights of “genius” to the realm of “huge but average”, it seems it doesn’t matter how much time Charlie Cheeseburger has to prepare for a game; he just can’t win a big one. If the Domers were humble enough to join either the Big Ten or the Pac Ten, they would have finished fourth or fifth this year.
http://ohiostate.scout.com/2/594635.html
 
Michigan might be looking at a rematch with ND in the rose Bowl

people dont want a rematch with OSU after a 3 point loss on the road but they do want a rematch of a 26 point blowout


?????

dont understand that
 
I don't want a rematch of the UM - ND game. Personally, I'm still hoping (in vain) that the domers will be left out of the BCS.
 
Goodness gracious, this is delicious:
Charlie Weis and poll dancing…Most of you understand my antipathy for Cheeseburger Chuck and all the preening he has done since getting to South Bend. The man is both literally and figuratively “bigger than the program” and that’s just wrong. But nowhere does he come across as more transparent or venal than when he pumps up the flabby Notre Dame ghost-of-a-program, begging for recognition in the polls. Listen – what about Wisconsin? 11-1 and they only lost to Michigan 27-13 while Notre Dame was beaten like a tied-down goat, 47-21. At their place!

Anyway, and in that regard, one poster wrote:

Of all the teams in college football history, Notre Dame is the last one who should ever complain about polls and rankings. Last season, though it was patently obvious to anyone with half a brain they were not that great, the Irish were placed in a BCS Bowl. Then, after watching Ohio State pound them back to the Stone Age with over 600 yards of offense, the pollsters and media went gaga over the supposed genius Charlie Weis in the off season. Some even ranked them No. 1 in the nation, predicting their tilt against USC would determine which team would play for the title.

Huh? What am I missing? Two items: The next time Notre Dame wins their bowl game, it will be their first since January 1, 1994 when they escaped 24-21 in the Cotton Bowl. The next time Notre Dame beats a good team, it will be the first time under Weis and the first since the Lou Holtz era.

The proud tradition? You have to have a good memory:

What really sets it over the top are the most recent 'big' games in which ND has appeared since 2001.

They were destroyed in their first BCS game by Oregon State.

They were destroyed in their second BCS game by OSU.

They have lost to USC:

2006 44-24

2005 34-31

2004 41-10

2003 45-14

2002 44-13

They haven't won a bowl game since January 1, 1994.

To put all of this into proper perspective, the current recruits have no living memory of a ND bowl win. None. They probably BARELY remember (and only then if they grew up rooting for ND) the last time they beat USC. Some dude named Bob Davie was their coach. They certainly have no memory of ND winning a national title and were born after that happened.

Even the current crop of sports writers and coaches - the memories are starting to wane. Unless you are 30+ years old, you probably don't remember much about 1988. If you are 40+ years old, then you MAY remember 1979 in addition to 1988, but dating back to (and including) 1979 - ND has just 7 bowl wins.
It's funny that Mac has actually said (on more than one occasion) that us Buckeye fans are jealous of Notre Dame. For what, exactly? Stuff that happened before any of us were born?

Then (OK, flag me for piling on but it was just too darn tempting...), there is the venerable Sporting News this week and a similar analysis from Matt Hayes on Friday:



They were flying back from Colorado Springs, Colo., two weeks ago, fresh off a big-time victory over Air Force that set up a blockbuster, make-or break home game against Army that unofficially would secure the Commander-In-Chief’s Trophy.

Then, out of nowhere from the back of the plane, came a thunderous uproar. The Notre Dame players had just learned that Texas had lost. Suddenly, the team that lost by 26 at home in its only meaningful game so far this season was thinking about playing for it all quicker than you can say Hiawatha Francisco.

"These kids are dialed in," Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis said. "Just like the rest of us are." They’re lurking around, and you don’t see it. They’re winning games, climbing up various polls, climbing back into our consciousness, and you don’t really feel it. Hold on tight, everyone. Notre Dame is back.

All it will take to put the Irish in the national title game is a win at Southern California this week. Their coach, bless his heart, says they have just as much of a chance as the next guy. Says ND had its "blemish" — just like everyone else.

"We’re not alone," he says.

Oh, but they most certainly are.

Not just anyone beats Army, Navy and Air Force in the same season. You try that, Ohio State.

Not just anyone allows a pathetic Michigan State team a double-digit lead in the fourth quarter, only to snatch victory in the last few minutes with the help of two unthinkable Sparty turnovers.

Not just anyone gets pushed around at home by an average UCLA team, then watches the Bruins stumble around in the secondary in the last minute of the game and ekes out a victory.

Not just anyone plays two of the worst five teams in college football (Stanford and North Carolina) and lives to tell.

Look, let’s not kid anyone: If we’re comparing the resumes of the nation’s top one-loss teams, Notre Dame is the definition of alone. The Irish’s best win? Against Georgia Tech, the Atlantic Coast Conference Coastal Division champions in a league that has somehow fallen below the Big East in the BCS Big Six pecking order.

Ask any of the one-loss teams which schedule they’d rather play — theirs or Notre Dame’s — and the answer would have a Blue and Gold rhyme to it. ND’s cake schedule overshadows major flaws in this team — on both sides of the ball.

I’m not saying the Irish defense is horrible, but the 26 points North Carolina scored in storied Notre Dame Stadium are the most points the Heels have scored all season against a Division I opponent.

I know Irish quarterback Brady Quinn is having a big year and all and the Dublin Coffman grad is the next coming of Tom Brady, but let’s look a little closer, shall we? The Irish have played five games this season against defenses currently ranked No. 83 or worse — games in which Quinn has thrown 17 touchdown passes and two interceptions.

I know Weis is the greatest coach on the planet and all, but in his two years at ND he’s 4-3 against ranked teams and 15-1 against the slugs of the college football world. And for the life of me, I can’t forget that Michigan game two months ago, when the overrated Irish were exposed and Chuck Almighty’s offense churned out 245 total yards and five turnovers.

That’s some blemish.
http://ohiostate.scout.com/2/594635.html

This column just never gets old.
 
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The TRUTH hurts doesnt it. :chuckles: :chuckles: :chuckles:
 
where the hell is A MAC.... i havent seeen him post in forever...im going through some withdraw
 
The George said:
where the hell is A MAC.... i havent seeen him post in forever...im going through some withdraw
I know he's around, but I'm not sure why he's not posting. Perhaps school is only giving him enough time to lurk right now? Just guessing.
 
The George said:
Michigan might be looking at a rematch with ND in the rose Bowl

people dont want a rematch with OSU after a 3 point loss on the road but they do want a rematch of a 26 point blowout


?????

dont understand that


ummm i don't went to play michigan again because we already beat u guys. u don't deserve another chance. I would like to give another team a shot. also I'm sick of looking at Michigans crappy uniforms.
 

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