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Any recommendations for expanded universe novels (or whatever it is called) to read? The only one I've read is Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter and loved it. Maul was a character without much of a backstory and I loved learning about it.

I'm really reading either to find out background of characters the movies don't do a good job of describing (Maul, Vader between movies 3-4, etc.), entertaining stories with good character development, and/or background for the new movie. So any recommendations for individual books or series would be much appreciated.

The Darth Bane books are really good.

It's funny because the most cited EU stories I've noticed are the Thrawn arc, Bane, and the Revan/Exile arcs from KOTOR.
 
Lol when I was young I didn't know what the Ewoks were called, so I just called them "The Furry People"

Furry people kicked ass, fuck yall haters

I LOVED that Ewok movie as a kid (came or when I was 5). They were the only characters I liked as much as Boba Fett.
 
The Darth Bane books are really good.

It's funny because the most cited EU stories I've noticed are the Thrawn arc, Bane, and the Revan/Exile arcs from KOTOR.
I agree that the Thrawn and Bane stories are the best. I also liked Crosscurrent, which is a stand alone. But they are all old EU, and no longer canon.

I liked the New Jedi Order series, but it is 19 books long.

I think the new comic books actually tie into the new movie the most, although I have never read one. Aftermath was the first novel that was supposed to tie in. It's ok, I guess, and barely seems to tie in into the new movie.
 
Absolutely.

My favorite story from the original trilogy is Harrison Ford saying, "You can write this sh!t but you sure as hell can't say it" about Lucas' dialogues.

I just hate it when people try and degrade all of his work because of the prequels.

How can Harrison Ford have never won an Oscar? I mean just the shit he said about both Ridley Scott and Lucas. He deserves it for just the balls to critique two legendary directors and pretty much nail it.
 
If you haven't seen them already, Plinkett has reviews of all three of the original Star Wars movie, each of which is over an hour long. They are fantastic, and pretty much pinpoint how terrible everything is and why, but in an entertaining and comedic manner.

I'll be honest, a lot of what he says seems like nitpicking. He glosses over flaws in the original trilogy, I think largely due to nostalgia, but focuses like a laser on the prequels.

He also makes a lot of assumptions that take Lucas' role of writer/director completely out of the equation.

I mean look, Star Wars is Lucas' story. All of the films at least. There isn't an episode of Star Wars that he didn't write and have final say / creative control over. So to say, well fuck him entirely, is essentially saying, fuck Star Wars. It's his dream, he's just sharing it with the rest of us.

And in saying that, I totally understand gripes about the direction, editing, dialogue, and acting of the prequels. I agree with all of those points. They are more than fair, and there's nothing wrong with critical analysis of film.

But when we get to the point where people are complaining about the actual narrative of the story, and that Lucas shouldn't have done this or that with his own dream so fuck him and his ideas, I just can't get with that.

No one would tell a musician, "dude, you're doing this wrong because I don't like it, do it like this and me and my friends will dig it."

It's like when Star Trek fans shit on Gene Roddenberry; I'm like, c'mon, relax.

I think people forget that Lucas really wanted these movies to appeal to children, hence Ewoks, Jar Jar, young Anakin, Hayden being cast as such a young man. The story didn't use older actors in the leads to appeal to younger audiences.

So when folks say, fuck that, it's not Star Wars; well, yeah man, it kinda is.

My final point on all this is that George Lucas is a pretty awful director, but a damn good storyteller. The only reason the prequels are watchable is because of how well Lucas can craft a vision, at least with broadstrokes. The problem is narrowing that vision into a film that makes sense, and that's the point in which he consistently fails.

I think he gets a lot of shit, some deserved and some isn't. But, I guess that's all over and done with now.
 
I know man. It's literally a blatant troll. Hence why I am very hesitant to say anything nice about George.

And you're right.. he is trolling with that shit... Like, for real?
 
And you're right.. he is trolling with that shit... Like, for real?

I would assume he did it so it mirrors the "NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" at the end of Ep 3, but they are both awful, from a character perspective and a VO perspective (like seriously, did they just go one take on that?).

As has been rumored, I'm guessing Disney eventually releases the original, un-fucked up versions that everyone has been clamoring for for quite some time.
 
I feel like I just shit in Gouris cornflakes. My bad.
 
I feel like I just shit in Gouris cornflakes. My bad.

You totally fucking did too.. Fucking ruined the point I was trying to make.. smh..

I didn't even know about him adding "noooo.." to ROTJ.. Like, who the f.. wha?!?!

I gotta agree, it's a fucking troll job.. Like, "don't like my movies? Hahaha... deal with it!"
 
Either way, reminds me of this...

You posting a Clerks clip in this thread, reminds me of my favorite scene in either movie:


"Even the fuckin trees walked in those movies"

:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:

Legit cried the first time I saw that I was laughing so hard.
 
You totally fucking did too.. Fucking ruined the point I was trying to make.. smh..

I didn't even know about him adding "noooo.." to ROTJ.. Like, who the f.. wha?!?!

I gotta agree, it's a fucking troll job.. Like, "don't like my movies? Hahaha... deal with it!"

I just think the guy didn't know when to leave well enough alone.

It's one thing to put more x-wings or shit on Tatooine in because it wasn't physically possible back in the day, or making Jabba actually Jabba once you decided on what he was. Even changing ghost Anakin in ROTJ to Hayden Christensen is forgivable.

But that change is something that could have been done back in the day, and you decided not to for whatever reason. No need to fuck with that.
 

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