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Really good article from Pluto on the Hoyer contract... I still think the heart of the issue is that people took a Bleacher Report article seriously... fucking hacks.
http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/index.ssf/2014/10/for_the_cleveland_browns_brian.html
For the Cleveland Browns, Brian Hoyer's contract is not a big issue right now -- Terry Pluto (video)
CLEVELAND, Ohio -- When it comes to Brian Hoyer's contract situation, everyone needs to simply calm down.
The season is five games old. He doesn't become a free agent until after the season.
In other words, Hoyer isn't going anywhere right now.
And furthermore, if the Browns really want to keep Hoyer, they can:
As for the Bleacher report story about how Hoyer wouldn't re-sign with the Browns if Johnny Manziel remains on the roster, that just doesn't sound like Hoyer.
"I want to be somewhere where I'm playing," Hoyer said when the report first surfaced, and that does sound like Hoyer.
It also makes sense.
WAITING HIS TURN
He has paid some very painful football dues to be in this position where he is establishing himself as an effective NFL starting quarterback. He has defied the odds, a non-drafted player out of Michigan State who spent three years sitting behind Tom Brady in New England.
He was cut by Patriots, cut by Arizona and cut by Pittsburgh.
The one great gift presented to the Browns by Michael Lombardi was the former general manager's faith in Hoyer. With the blessing of former CEO Joe Banner, Lombardi signed Hoyer to a two-year, $2-million deal before the 2013 season.
Brian Hoyer discredits report on his contract situation with the BrownsCleveland Browns quarterback Brian Hoyer opened his weekly Wednesday press conference with a statement discrediting a report on bleacherreport.com that he would not sign a longterm contract with the Browns with Johnny Manziel here. “It couldn’t be further from the truth,” Hoyer said.
Hoyer has received a chance to play in his hometown and the St. Ignatius graduate has delivered. He is 6-2 as a starter, 5-2 in games where he played all four quarters.
The stats are impressive. In the eight games, he has a 92.9 rating, 12 touchdowns compared to four interceptions. Best of all, his team wins and he runs a very efficient offense.
Ask yourself this: If that continues, why would the Browns bench him for Johnny Manziel or anyone else?
And why would Hoyer leave if his hometown team -- where he has had success -- is willing to pay him starter's money?
HASLAM'S GOAL
Yes, owner Jimmy Haslam was attracted to Manziel as a player and as a marketing brand. But Haslam knows the bottom line in football is the final score. What Haslam wants most of all are more Sundays like last week. He stood on the sidelines near the end of the game, watching his team demolish Pittsburgh.
You can be sure that Haslam is not going to allow a winning quarterback to walk away, especially one who has the respect of the front office, coaches and players. Hoyer has all of that and more.
In the spring, the Browns and Hoyer's agent (Joe Linta) had some preliminary talks. But at that point, Hoyer had started three games for the Browns and was recovering from ACL knee surgery. The Browns also had drafted Manziel.
While they were encouraged by Hoyer's progress after surgery, the Browns had no idea how fast he could come back. Nor did they know how ready Manziel would be for the NFL.
Hoyer is making a remarkable comeback. Manziel has talent, but he also has a lot to learn about the pro game. This situation has worked out perfectly for the Browns, who didn't want to open the season with a rookie quarterback.
Remember that this Browns front office and coaching staff has no hesitation when it comes to playing undrafted or low-round picks over high draft choices, just as they did with first-rounder Justin Gilbert and third-rounder Terrance West, who have seen their playing time cut.
The Browns have no intention of handing Manziel the quarterback job simply because of all the hype. They are out to win now and make the playoffs. And that's the goal for next year, too.
The Browns can wait and see how Hoyer plays in the remainder of the season, including if he remains healthy. They can open contract talks at any point later in the season -- or after the year is over.
It also makes sense for Hoyer to wait, as his value keeps soaring.
So when it comes to Hoyer's contract, it's a non-issue right now. And the more he wins, the better it is for Browns and their quarterback.
http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/index.ssf/2014/10/for_the_cleveland_browns_brian.html
For the Cleveland Browns, Brian Hoyer's contract is not a big issue right now -- Terry Pluto (video)
CLEVELAND, Ohio -- When it comes to Brian Hoyer's contract situation, everyone needs to simply calm down.
The season is five games old. He doesn't become a free agent until after the season.
In other words, Hoyer isn't going anywhere right now.
And furthermore, if the Browns really want to keep Hoyer, they can:
- Sign him to a long-term deal that pays him the salary of a starter such as Cincinnati's Andy Dalton.
- Designate him as a "franchise player." In 2014, the franchise tag for a quarterback was $16 million.
As for the Bleacher report story about how Hoyer wouldn't re-sign with the Browns if Johnny Manziel remains on the roster, that just doesn't sound like Hoyer.
"I want to be somewhere where I'm playing," Hoyer said when the report first surfaced, and that does sound like Hoyer.
It also makes sense.
WAITING HIS TURN
He has paid some very painful football dues to be in this position where he is establishing himself as an effective NFL starting quarterback. He has defied the odds, a non-drafted player out of Michigan State who spent three years sitting behind Tom Brady in New England.
He was cut by Patriots, cut by Arizona and cut by Pittsburgh.
The one great gift presented to the Browns by Michael Lombardi was the former general manager's faith in Hoyer. With the blessing of former CEO Joe Banner, Lombardi signed Hoyer to a two-year, $2-million deal before the 2013 season.
Brian Hoyer discredits report on his contract situation with the BrownsCleveland Browns quarterback Brian Hoyer opened his weekly Wednesday press conference with a statement discrediting a report on bleacherreport.com that he would not sign a longterm contract with the Browns with Johnny Manziel here. “It couldn’t be further from the truth,” Hoyer said.
Hoyer has received a chance to play in his hometown and the St. Ignatius graduate has delivered. He is 6-2 as a starter, 5-2 in games where he played all four quarters.
The stats are impressive. In the eight games, he has a 92.9 rating, 12 touchdowns compared to four interceptions. Best of all, his team wins and he runs a very efficient offense.
Ask yourself this: If that continues, why would the Browns bench him for Johnny Manziel or anyone else?
And why would Hoyer leave if his hometown team -- where he has had success -- is willing to pay him starter's money?
HASLAM'S GOAL
Yes, owner Jimmy Haslam was attracted to Manziel as a player and as a marketing brand. But Haslam knows the bottom line in football is the final score. What Haslam wants most of all are more Sundays like last week. He stood on the sidelines near the end of the game, watching his team demolish Pittsburgh.
You can be sure that Haslam is not going to allow a winning quarterback to walk away, especially one who has the respect of the front office, coaches and players. Hoyer has all of that and more.
In the spring, the Browns and Hoyer's agent (Joe Linta) had some preliminary talks. But at that point, Hoyer had started three games for the Browns and was recovering from ACL knee surgery. The Browns also had drafted Manziel.
While they were encouraged by Hoyer's progress after surgery, the Browns had no idea how fast he could come back. Nor did they know how ready Manziel would be for the NFL.
Hoyer is making a remarkable comeback. Manziel has talent, but he also has a lot to learn about the pro game. This situation has worked out perfectly for the Browns, who didn't want to open the season with a rookie quarterback.
Remember that this Browns front office and coaching staff has no hesitation when it comes to playing undrafted or low-round picks over high draft choices, just as they did with first-rounder Justin Gilbert and third-rounder Terrance West, who have seen their playing time cut.
The Browns have no intention of handing Manziel the quarterback job simply because of all the hype. They are out to win now and make the playoffs. And that's the goal for next year, too.
The Browns can wait and see how Hoyer plays in the remainder of the season, including if he remains healthy. They can open contract talks at any point later in the season -- or after the year is over.
It also makes sense for Hoyer to wait, as his value keeps soaring.
So when it comes to Hoyer's contract, it's a non-issue right now. And the more he wins, the better it is for Browns and their quarterback.
