The incredibly awesome Mike Bibby thread !!!

[ChicagoCavFan]

Re: BW: Cavs almost got Bibby today

Some potentials:

:yay: :drink: :shocked: :headbang: :drool: :woot: :wiggle: :woohoo: :cheers: :licker: mg:

 

[Joe Henderson]

Re: BW: Cavs almost got Bibby today

nice, nice. but i don't think any of them actually conveys the feeling of relief after such an angst-filled offseason. several of them in a sequence, maybe.

 

[ChicagoCavFan]

Re: BW: Cavs almost got Bibby today

Just picture a beer in each of their hands. How do you spell relief? B U D W E I S E R.

Did they have those Rolaids commercials where you are?

 

[Joe Henderson]

Re: BW: Cavs almost got Bibby today

...spells relief . right, they don't sell them here, but i remember from my time in Cleveland.

now, back on topic,

is Bibby a Cav yet?

 

[Wine and Gold]

Re: BW: Cavs almost got Bibby today

Moving Drew first doesn't give Fegan leverage. It actually removes any rationale Andy may have had for looking elsewhere, because it hands him the starting spot next to Z. It encourages him to sign a long-term contract with the Cavs and not just accept a qualifying offer. A 3yr offer like Drew's would allow him to showcase his talents and potentially earn a bigger payday, or he can go for a longer term offer and financial stability.

Yes, we need to re-sign Andy, but he's restricted. He's not going anywhere and likely never was. If we had forced him to accept less because we kept telling him we're not overpaying for a starter, and then turned around and signed Bibby and announced Andy was our guy all along ... how do you think that makes him feel about the organization?

As I've been saying... it's a lot easier to sign free-agents when you can promise them a starting spot and solid minutes.

It could also possibly lead to Hughes packing and the need for a AK47 type ...just speculating..

 

[B Mac]

Re: BW: Cavs almost got Bibby today

Max you just made my day. Im sitting here in the office smiling from ear to ear. Ive got my questions about Bibby, but this is a great move. When you have a chance to upgrade the weakest position on the team for years and not experience a significant drop off anywhere else on the team you have to do it. Hopefully we can find another solid big and wont get stuck with large deals coming back in this one.

Ferry's patience with Gooden last year really paid off. It made him a very valuable trade piece this summer. All of you who have been riding Ferry's ass should apologize if this goes through as how now been predicted by Sacromento writers and our very own Max.

 

[ChicagoCavFan]

Re: BW: Cavs almost got Bibby today

When you have a chance to upgrade the weakest position on the team for years

Actually, not really. Bibby's last official year is after next season, although he has a player option for an additional year at around 14 mil. I'm sure he'd take it. The beauty with this deal is that it still keeps our numbers in line whether we keep Drew or trade him. His deal would be up at the same time - therefore, any grand future plan we had for that time is still in the cards.

 

[B Mac]

Re: BW: Cavs almost got Bibby today

Ah the "for years" part was referring to the teams weakest position not Bibby's contract, but my bad for the confusion.

 

[Mac]

Re: BW: Cavs almost got Bibby today

Nice max, I forgot about the injured hand. I thought he was a bit older as well. I think I keep confusing him with Kidd as far as age goes.

I would love for this deal to go down, because we all know how good Bibby can be. But it's just hard to swallow when he makes $14 mill and has had two soso years. I dont want another Larry Hughes situation and we are then put behind the eight ball as far as progress is concerned.

I really hope we look at Mutombo, I know we made an offer to Zo last year but he turned it down to stay in Miami...we need to get Ben to find out if we have any interest.

 

[Joe Henderson]

Re: BW: Cavs almost got Bibby today

It could also possibly lead to Hughes packing and the need for a AK47 type ...just speculating..

i don't know how many more players of his type actually exist :chuckles: but that's just very exciting.

 

[MYoung23]

Re: BW: Cavs almost got Bibby today

Scola was a very key cog in the trade. He would have replaced Gooden. The Cavaliers are not going to just hand the starting spot to Varejao. They have reservations about him being able to start fulltime.

If you dont think Fegan will stand strong with Gooden on the roster and the Cavaliers having only one PF under the age of 34 under contract youre kidding yourself.

Getting rid of Gooden and not getting a comparable PF back somehow just opens the door for Fegan which leads back to Scola.

Scola being traded to Houston slows down any Bibby deal because they will have to find another 3rd team with a PF the Cavaliers want.

 

[OU Bobcatz]

Re: BW: Cavs almost got Bibby today

Is McDyess a free agent? Give him the MLE to compete with Andy.

 

[TheISHT]

Re: BW: Cavs almost got Bibby today

It could also possibly lead to Hughes packing and the need for a AK47 type ...just speculating..

I've been saying this for a long time..............Hughes for AK makes sense for both teams. Both are fragile and overpaid. AK-47 and AV could be our starting tandem in about a year or two with Andy playing center.

 

[Jon]

Re: BW: Cavs almost got Bibby today

If you dont think Fegan will stand strong with Gooden on the roster and the Cavaliers having only one PF under the age of 34 under contract youre kidding yourself.

How come you can never state an opinion without insulting someone else's?

What Fegan should be worrying about is that Andy is going to be playing FIBA basketball in a couple of weeks without a signed contract. Andy is restricted, and every other team knows that Cleveland will match whatever they have to offer - so they most likely even won't bother. Ferry will cut a fair deal. Not what Fegan dreamt about, but more than AV would get anywhere else.

 

[Mac]

Re: BW: Cavs almost got Bibby today

I dont think he insulted anybody, I think he made a pretty accurate assumption.

If the Cavaliers do not have a starting PF because of this trade, then Andy automatically gets pushed into the starting PF pay range. We lose some leverage is all that he is saying.