The mystery deal discussed lol (take your wild guesses)

[Amherstcavsfan]

It's obviously a three way trade.

Cleveland Sends:
A bucket of Lake Erie Water
"Stone Cold" Sasha Pavs
The rights to Trajan Langdon

Cleveland gets:
Amare Stoudemire
Chris Paul
The rights to a hurricane
The rights to Mexico

How it helps Cleveland:
We get an entire ****ing country. And Mexican food.

Hurricane could blow all the crap out of the city *I'm looking at you Romeo and staph infections...and moondog.*

Stoudemire and Paul are pretty decent.

How it hurts Cleveland:

LeBron leaves for New York in 2010

Hurricanes kill people, but we actually save lives by getting rid of Sasha

Mexico has no downside...except maybe an STD.

New AHLINS sends:
The rights to a hurricane
Chris Paul
Gumbo
Les Miles' Hat

New AHLINS gets:
The Rights to Trajan Langdon
A Cactus
Sand

How it helps New AHLINS:
Sand is cool, unless it gets in your shoes

Trajan Langdon is the greatest player to ever come out of Alaska

A Cactus could guard the paint better than Peja.

How it hurts New AHLINS:

Sand is pretty worthless.

A Cactus is also worthless.

Trajan Langdon has lost a little bit on his driving game. You figure that one out.

Hooked on Phoenix sends:
Amare Stoudemire
A Cactus
Sand
The Rights to Mexico

Hooked on Phoenix gets
Gumbo
Les Miles' Hat
"Stone Cold" Sasha Pavs
A Bucket of Lake Erie Water

How it helps Hooked on Phoenix:

Les Miles' hat is really cool, and...ya know, stuff

Stone Cold can finally get in touch with his killer side with the Suns

Gumbo is kinda tasty, and when I say kinda, I mean not at all.

Lake Erie Water is the best water in the country.

How it hurts Hooked on Phoenix:

I've never seen a man dribble the ball off his leg like Pavs

Les Miles has lice

Gumbo sucks.

Lake Erie Water is really filled with our waste and piss. Sorry, it can't be helped.

 

[glockcoma]

I know I'm dreaming, but I'm hoping that we deal Wally's expiring, AV, and a first for Stoudamire and Raja Bell. Raja's perimeter D and shooting would fit in great here and a pick and roll game with stoudamire and Mo/LBJ would be elite. I'll keep dreaming though

 

[glockcoma]

Re: Give it up for Andy!

Just dreaming but I'm hoping it's for stoudamire and raja bell

 

[Out of the Rafters at the Q]

Just dreaming but I wish you didn't double post.

Anyways, Phoenix has NO reason to trade Amare. Even if they absolutely suck this year, they'd be rebuilding around him.

 

[KIisKing]

I would really love to get Sean Williams. He is going to be a beast in this league.

I want williams to but I hear he has attitude and has gotten in trouble with the law before. I think Boone would be a better fit NOW becasue he is more delvopled. I now sean williams blocks and dunks but does he defend does he have any post presecnce?

 

[TAS]

You seem upset about that. This is the second or third post i've read and you've mentioned it.

If its Upset @ the Hall, then Yes.....He is now playing for the Redskins for like $700,000.

I know Clevelanders are hungry for a Championship but you can't be changing the team every season..Chemistry is key for this team to succeed.

Also, i don't know why Bosh would leave the Raptors. They got rid of Vince Carter to reassure him that they wanted to build a team around him. There is no way Colangelo will let him go..

G-Force & Okafor = $21,040,375

Let's not forget about 2010. As much as we would like to think LeBron won't leave, nothing is official until he inks that new contract.

 

[Lee]

Just dreaming but I wish you didn't double post.

Anyways, Phoenix has NO reason to trade Amare. Even if they absolutely suck this year, they'd be rebuilding around him.

I think he was joking about amare, only thing i can be sure of based on past Ferry trades that none of us are correct on who it is. We might have one peice, but not the whole puzzle. This might be the trade that Ferry gets really original and involves a 4th team, or involves the mascott or dance team. It will will almost be sad when Ferry has tweeked the roster to championship dynasty level, as I have begun to look foward to these outlandish trade threads and the crazy trades Ferry is able to pull off. Soon, the only trades we will have is Flip Murry level trades for depth...but even those type of trades will bring 6 or 7 page threads here. :chuckles:

 

[KIisKing]

Theres no way charlottle trade okofor and g-force for andy and wally. Even if we give them a first rounder they theres no point it will be in 30's.

Hoopshype says Toronto is intersted in G-Forcre and they have more to offer IMO.

Also on hoopshpye is says: Wilcox and Collison availble?

So maybe we'll be trading with seattle again

 

[Out of the Rafters at the Q]

Theres no way charlottle trade okofor and g-force for andy and wally. Even if we give them a first rounder they theres no point it will be in 30's.

Hoopshype says Toronto is intersted in G-Forcre and they have more to offer IMO.

Also on hoopshpye is says: Wilcox and Collison availble?

So maybe we'll be trading with seattle again

Our first round pick will be in the 30's? That's impressive considering there's only 30 teams... I mean, even if we win the championship, you can't call pick number 30 in the "30's" because there are no other 30-something picks in the first round to pluralize it.

Are we going to be so dominant that they move our first round pick to the second round? :gap:

 

[Mdog1]

If its Upset @ the Hall, then Yes.....He is now playing for the Redskins for like $700,000.

I know Clevelanders are hungry for a Championship but you can't be changing the team every season..Chemistry is key for this team to succeed.

Also, i don't know why Bosh would leave the Raptors. They got rid of Vince Carter to reassure him that they wanted to build a team around him. There is no way Colangelo will let him go..

G-Force & Okafor = $21,040,375

Let's not forget about 2010. As much as we would like to think LeBron won't leave, nothing is official until he inks that new contract.

I was just joking about the Hall thing as i'd be pissed to. WAAAAAAAYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! overvalued by the Raiders.

Well if LeBron does decide to bolt in 2010 who would you rather have on this team? Anderson Varajao (role player boarderline starter), DWest (starter), Boobie (role player), Mo, JJ, DJ3 and about 40 million to try and sign a big name player. But what big name player is goig to come to a team that is basically rebuilding? Or would you rather have Okafor, Mo, DWest, Wallace, Boobie, JJ, DJ3, and about 20 million in cap space (I believe) which could net a couple good players for us.

We need to build in a way that allows us to to remain competetive even without LBJ and the second lineup would certainly do just that IMO because it is a very real possibility he leaves we probably have about a 50/50 chance of resigning him and with teams trying to get under the cap that number will only get lower.

 

[Mdog1]

I think he was joking about amare, only thing i can be sure of based on past Ferry trades that none of us are correct on who it is. We might have one peice, but not the whole puzzle. This might be the trade that Ferry gets really original and involves a 4th team, or involves the mascott or dance team. It will will almost be sad when Ferry has tweeked the roster to championship dynasty level, as I have begun to look foward to these outlandish trade threads and the crazy trades Ferry is able to pull off. Soon, the only trades we will have is Flip Murry level trades for depth...but even those type of trades will bring 6 or 7 page threads here. :chuckles:

Lets trade dance teams with the Chargers. They are amazing :drool:.

 

[Photon]

I was just joking about the Hall thing as i'd be pissed to. WAAAAAAAYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! overvalued by the Raiders.

Well if LeBron does decide to bolt in 2010 who would you rather have on this team? Anderson Varajeao (role player borderline starter), DWest (starter), Boobie (role player), Mo, JJ, DJ3 and about 40 million to try and sign a big name player. But what big name player is going to come to a team that is basically rebuilding? Or would you rather have Okafor, Mo, DWest, Wallace, Boobie, JJ, DJ3, and about 20 million in cap space (I believe) which could net a couple good players for us.

We need to build in a way that allows us to to remain competitive even without LBJ and the second lineup would certainly do just that IMO because it is a very real possibility he leaves we probably have about a 50/50 chance of resigning him and with teams trying to get under the cap that number will only get lower.

Agreed. Another great plus would be that if we build trough trades we don't have to watch for cap space since we can resign Lebron anyway and we better turn our expirings into good players than wait for our cap space. If we trade we can get at least one superstar(or really good player, if you like that way) and some good role players, if we wait we can get only one superstar or not even that.

 

[hn3108]

Just curious how did this whole mystery deal thing get started? And why would we wanna trade away players from this team that really has some good chemistry? I mean evryone wants Wally out. I wouldn't complain but, him and AV are contributing and IDK if i'd sacrifice good chemistry for a few more wins. When it comes down to it chemistry keeps us in close games in the playoffs, when a few more wins only moves us around the playoff tree. IDK I just think what we have now is working pretty damn good and I would hate to see us jepordize it.

 

[Hydroponic3385]

Just curious how did this whole mystery deal thing get started? And why would we wanna trade away players from this team that really has some good chemistry? I mean evryone wants Wally out. I wouldn't complain but, him and AV are contributing and IDK if i'd sacrifice good chemistry for a few more wins. When it comes down to it chemistry keeps us in close games in the playoffs, when a few more wins only moves us around the playoff tree. IDK I just think what we have now is working pretty damn good and I would hate to see us jepordize it.

Wine & Gold (an insider with the Cavs, and a respected poster on these forums) brought up that there have been trade discussions about AV + Wally + pick (he didn't actually name those players, but highly hinted at them) for 2 very nice players in return (a big and a wing). Nothing is serious as of now, but there have definitely been talks.

As far as why we'd want to deal these players away...AV is definitely having a heck of a season so far, and I think we'd all agree we'd rather have him remain a Cav. However, you never know if he'll re-sign with the Cavs for sure, so if he's significantly increasing his trade value right now, you have to at least see what is offered to the Cavs for him. Wally, although he's a decent mid-bench guy, is very obviously most valuable for his huge expiring contract. Even though we'd love the continuity and chemistry these guys bring, if we can get significant upgrades at the PF/C and SG spots, we'd have to consider it. Could very well put us over the top.

And really, the best answer to your questions...fans get bored, especially on days off between games. So it's fun to think of any and every possibility. :chuckles:

 

[Mdog1]

Agreed. Another great plus would be that if we build trough trades we don't have to watch for cap space since we can resign Lebron anyway and we better turn our expirings into good players than wait for our cap space. If we trade we can get at least one superstar(or really good player, if you like that way) and some good role players, if we wait we can get only one superstar or not even that.

Exactly we might not even get a player in 2010 to go alongside LBJ, and if we did we wouldn't be able to resign AV any way. Besides if LBJ leaves we are not going to get another star player maybe not even an all star unless we way over pay. We need to build for a championship now and not just hope that a player comes along. If we are the defending champs I think it is very hard for LBJ to walk away from that even if he could get 10 times the money I think it is very difficult.