The Official True Detective Scene

[godfather]

Last night's episode was good. The acting by especially Farrell, and Vaughn was top-notch, too.

Farrell probably locked in an emmy nomination.

 

[Simmy]

Does anyone have any clue what's going on anymore? Can someone please explain the 'conspiracy reveal' we got regarding those contracts at the end to me?

And why is it ok to neglect the fact that a) someone tried to kill Ray in episode 2 and b) they were just involved in the most unexplained police shoot out of all time, like 2 episodes ago?

And there better be some depth to the Frank's bodyguard who died. Otherwise I've no idea why you'd dedicate 5 minutes of screen time to paying respects to his family.

 

[kosis]

Show is still a mess. I'm forgetting why Ani even went undercover in the house in the first place. Ray and young cop sneaking around like Rambo while the score to Beauty & the Beast is playing is just really weird to me.

It just can't figure out what it is.

 

[Adam]

What it needs is some really solid exposition. It is making the viewer have to work way to hard. that was fine in season 1 when people came up with all the theories and played with the shows imagery but this season is more procedural and it doesnt have the artistic liscense

 

[Soar]

Yeah there are lots of intriguing elements but none of it is connecting that well.

I agree with those saying the show is hurt a lot by having the name True Detective.

But even in isolation it's a disjointed show.

 

[col63onel]

Does anyone have any clue what's going on anymore? Can someone please explain the 'conspiracy reveal' we got regarding those contracts at the end to me?

It's the link between the Vinci city government and the state government. It will basically show that Vinci is really dirty.

And why is it ok to neglect the fact that a) someone tried to kill Ray in episode 2 and b) they were just involved in the most unexplained police shoot out of all time, like 2 episodes ago?

Ray was shot so he wouldn't get what was on the camera, which I assume is the Caspere murder. The shootout was to let whoever actually killed Caspere think that they had already got the killers.

And there better be some depth to the Frank's bodyguard who died. Otherwise I've no idea why you'd dedicate 5 minutes of screen time to paying respects to his family.

They are trying to make Vince Vaughn sympathetic, for some reason.

I must add I have no idea where they are going with 1992 jewel robbery angle.

 

[Simmy]

It's the link between the Vinci city government and the state government. It will basically show that Vinci is really dirty.

But didn't we already know this?

Ray was shot so he wouldn't get what was on the camera, which I assume is the Caspere murder. The shootout was to let whoever actually killed Caspere think that they had already got the killers.

Why has this not been re-visited? Surely this would be a primary source of investigation when trying to a) solve a crime and b) link said crime with city-wide conspiracy. I understand the purpose of the shootout, but the way they got to that point was so muddled I had to read like 3 recaps just to understand how it logically made sense that they would end up at that apartment block.

They are trying to make Vince Vaughn sympathetic, for some reason.

I must add I have no idea where they are going with 1992 jewel robbery angle.

I'm assuming the 1992 robbery is an integral part of the story - perhaps the birthing place of the alleged corruption?

Just read this article which seems to reiterate this: http://www.bustle.com/articles/9830...tective-they-might-be-the-key-to-figuring-out.

Hoping for some clarity at the end of episode 8 so that I can sit down, re-watch it and try to properly dissect all the elements I feel I'm clearly missing.

Something I did find funny: after each episode, I read re-caps to catch up on anything I may have missed. I read 4-5 last night that basically all started with: "If you can correctly interpret anything that's going on and the purpose of where we're actually at in the storyline six episodes in, you deserve a medal."

 

[Kbiz]

Between Game Of Thrones killing off all my favorite characters every year, TD's 2nd Season Theme, "Remember how just Rust was f'd up? Well, now every character is!".... I am left pondering how the writers of The Leftovers plan to make their show even darker and weirder? HBO's CEO must be going through some shit this year...

 

[col63onel]

But didn't we already know this?

But now the main characters have actual proof.

Why has this not been re-visited? Surely this would be a primary source of investigation when trying to a) solve a crime and b) link said crime with city-wide conspiracy. I understand the purpose of the shootout, but the way they got to that point was so muddled I had to read like 3 recaps just to understand how it logically made sense that they would end up at that apartment block.

Guessing it will be revisited.

I'm assuming the 1992 robbery is an integral part of the story - perhaps the birthing place of the alleged corruption?

My initial thought was that Vince Vaughn was one of the kids who witnessed the murder.

 

[Adam]

My initial thought was that Vince Vaughn was one of the kids who witnessed the murder.

i think the photo showed two latino kids IIRC

 

[col63onel]

So, here's what I think the plot is/was/has been:

The Police Chief and Caspere killed the jewelry store owners back in 92, and got rich stealing the diamonds. The daughter of the owners was Caspere's secretary who also went to his hooker parties. She is now missing. Seems likely she was the one who killed Caspere. The murder was caught on camera. When she went to get the camera, Colin Ferrell was there, and she had to buckshot him to steal the camera.

Caspere and the Russians and the mayor's son and the state attorney general and every other bigwig were doing something extremely shady with the train deal. Part of that was basically screwing Vince Vaughn out of land and his clubs. Early on, it looked like maybe someone killed Caspere to steal the 5mil of Vaughn's money. It turned out Caspere, et all, were already planning on screwing Vaughn. Him being screwed was incidental of the Caspere murder.

With Taylor Kitch dead, McAdams and Vaughn have to some how prove how crooked everyone is. That have no witnesses, a little evidence in terms of those contracts, but the one person at the state level who knew what they were working on got killed in her car.

Also, they could reveal who the little boy in 92 was. But mostly, it will be the 2 of them (or maybe 3 if VV joins them) trying to expose all the crooked big wigs.

It's not a terrible plot, but it is not worth all the work to figure it out.

 

[Soar]

Think it's good.

Also think it's too convoluted to be able to watch week to week. Will binge watch it to really evaluate.

Still don't really feel attached to any of the characters.

 

[David.]

Not current, but Jesus do I hate Rachel madams character

 

[Hurl Bruce]

So for me, the big takeaway from the past episode was that Nipsy Russell was running shit underground.

 

[redscoon]

So right after they get done emphasizing all the underground tunnels that span the entire city, Kitch gets popped by a guy that just happens to know exactly where he will come out?

Why not keep the cop hostage and avoid the pursuit and shootout?

It is starting to come together, but it's still pretty sloppy and overly difficult to follow.