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Yeah, am I losing my mind or was that an actual good episode? Colin Farrell sold the hell out of that reveal about the rapist being caught... and alive. And I liked a Vince Vaughn scene for the first time... the one where he shed some tears after speaking with his wife about adoption. Can't believe it was as believable as it was.

And yes, the "safe circle" with McAdams was excellent.
 
So years back ray killed a guy who raped his wife, but it was the wrong guy due to Frank duping him and thus causing the breakdown of his life? am i close?

I think its about to kick into gear now, it needs more messed up occult stuff
 
This is what this season needs:

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DiaDDario for the win! Gorgeous girl who made the best investment in herself, by getting those perfect bolt-ons.

I think there is only eight episodes in this season, which means they have a lot of ground to cover in the remaining three (?) episodes.

I'm hoping that Taylor Kitsch's character yells "clear eyes full hearts cant lose" as he finishes with his hot preggo spaniard.
 
Guess tonight is the night we find out if True Detective will actually be good this season or just meh.

I went back and watched some of Season 1 to figure out why I liked that so much better.

The obvious is just how good Matthew McConaughey was. Woody Harrelson too. Season 1 had two really amazing characters. Season 2 has 4 meh characters.

The second was the setting. Louisiana and the swamps just brought so much more than some random urban setting in "California." Urban detective cop show. Haven't seen that before. It is one thing to have an urban setting but make it unique or something.

Bad setting, mediocre characters is a terrible combination.
 
Guess tonight is the night we find out if True Detective will actually be good this season or just meh.

I went back and watched some of Season 1 to figure out why I liked that so much better.

The obvious is just how good Matthew McConaughey was. Woody Harrelson too. Season 1 had two really amazing characters. Season 2 has 4 meh characters.

The second was the setting. Louisiana and the swamps just brought so much more than some random urban setting in "California." Urban detective cop show. Haven't seen that before. It is one thing to have an urban setting but make it unique or something.

Bad setting, mediocre characters is a terrible combination.

Agreed, although i think the actors have done well portraying the characters for the most part.

Throw in the fact that TD season 1 was so good, which heightened expectations and you have the perfect recipe for the 2nd season to fall flat for most fans.

Frankly, if this season was just a stand alone HBO show without a precedent set, i think public perception would be much different.
 
Think the other thing hurting the show a bit is that Nic Pizzolatto is the only writer.

Pizzolatto was born in Louisiana, went to LSU, Arkansas for school. And you can tell during Season 1 that the person who wrote the script/story had inner knowledge of that setting.

But Pizzolatto seems a bit out of his element here(understandably so) and probably could have used more help writing this script.

HBO probably asks he hire more writers or maybe goes back to what he knows better. Eerie, creepy, Louisiana swamp type stuff.

Fargo on FX is a show that was really popular and powerful partly due to the setting and great acting from Billy Bob Thornton. And although that show will be in a different period with a new cast, it will maintain its iconic snowy, icy setting which will help a ton.

Think Pizzolatto should have kept rolling with the Season 1 or similar setting.
 
I have a feeling these next three episodes will pick up the pace. McAdams going undercover tonight should make for some intense drama.

I am going to continue to hold judgement until this season is over. This isn't the type of series that should be judged episode to episode. It needs to be judged as a whole. Each season is basically an 8 hour crime epic. We are just starting to get into the climax equivalent of a film.
 
Guess tonight is the night we find out if True Detective will actually be good this season or just meh.

I went back and watched some of Season 1 to figure out why I liked that so much better.

The obvious is just how good Matthew McConaughey was. Woody Harrelson too. Season 1 had two really amazing characters. Season 2 has 4 meh characters.

The second was the setting. Louisiana and the swamps just brought so much more than some random urban setting in "California." Urban detective cop show. Haven't seen that before. It is one thing to have an urban setting but make it unique or something.

Bad setting, mediocre characters is a terrible combination.

Season 1 was good from the start. You don't need non-stop action, or entertainment for something to be good. It's not like every episode has been unwatchable either, there are definitely interesting and entertaining elements to this season.

But, this season is lost. I expect it to pick up more, but its still a disgrace to what it was last season.

I agree, MM and Woody were outstanding actors, but the acting hasn't been the problem, it's the writing.

And the fact Pizzolatto is taking on too much of the writing could be diluting things a bit. Season one, he probably had it built up what he was going to do with it for awhile, and it seemed more cohesive and fresh.

Even the dialogue this season is putrid compared to last year. It feels like he was snorting coke when writing some of this shit.
 
I think a lot of people are discounting the formulaic nature of the first season helping keep the story tight and focused. Re-watching it with my wife this past weekend after catching up on season 2 made the differences between the two ways the stories are/were being told incredibly apparent.

I think Pizzolato correctly predicted that he had to change things up the second go around or else be criticized, but it seems like he might have found himself in a damned if you do damned if you don't kind of situation.

As far as the bullshit the characters say, the problem with this year is its being just stated as fact, as opposed to last year where Marty would consistently call out Ruhst for how ridiculous that shit was. This year, no one is telling Vince Vaughn he's full of shit.

The overall tones are much different, with the first season being a much more real world based crime show while the second is a more David lynch/noire inspired story.

In the end, people just need to remember that they'll always have the first season and there is a clear delineation between the two (and whatever else comes in the future).
 
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I feel like if this show was titled anything but "True Detective" it would be seen in a more favorable light by people.
 

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