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I saw in an Reddit thread and it kind of resonated..... anyone else think Hart's eldest child is showing all the signs of someone who's been molested? The drawing in elementary school, the Barbie doll gang bang, and now the parked car double-team. Trying to figure out how they use her character moving forward or if she's just contributing to their eventual broken marriage.

Also interesting how transparent the Behind the Episode stuff is. How they reveal that Coyle asks for a beer so that anything he says becomes inadmissible. He seems way to smart to need such a tactic unless he's a legitimate suspect.

Crazy good. Keep saying it. The show has a 9.5/10 rating on IMDB which makes it the 4th highest-rated TV show of all time.
 
Another great article breaking down theories.

Who Is the Yellow King?

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Nothing like a creepy name to capture the imagination of the TV obsessive who has become primed to expect mythology and “Easter eggs” in everything they watch. True Detective diehards have been discussing the Yellow King for weeks, ever since the name was first mentioned in episode two, plucked out of murder victim Dora Lange’s journal alongside mentions of black stars falling and a place named “Carcosa.” And in an interview with The Wall Street Journal’s Speakeasy blog on February 2, novelist and show writer Nic Pizzolatto name-dropped Robert W. Chambers’s 1895 story collection The King in Yellow as part of the show’s galaxy of influences. But it was an io9 piece, titled “The One Literary Reference You Must Know to Appreciate True Detective,” that spread the name far and wide.

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As that piece explained, The King in Yellow of the collection’s title is a play that drives anyone who experiences it insane. Chambers’s book influenced the work of H.P. Lovecraft, the early 20th century horror writer who wrote many short stories in which characters go mad after seeing the true nature of the cosmos (or giant, tentacled Old Gods — sometimes they’re o— ne and the same). Pizzolatto’s decision to use that same name for its mysterious, as-yet-unseen murderer/string puller, has lent True Detective a truly eerie, even supernatural, feeling that has helped to elevate True Detective above the typical police procedural. It has also inspired viewers — myself included — to go deep down the crawfish hole, much like Matthew McConaughey’s Cohle, who says in episode one, when speaking about his omnipresent ledger, “I’ve always taken a lot of notes. You never know what the thing’s gonna be, do ya? The little detail somewhere down the line that makes you say, 'ah!'”
So we rewatch the episodes, look for clues both verbal and visual, note even the most minor of characters, strain to spot suspects lurking on the edges of the frame, and try to figure out how it all fits together. The knowledge that the Yellow King is a name taken from stories about vaguely supernatural stuff (which has propelled the ebook to No. 4 on Amazon’s best-seller list) has inspired some grand theoretical leaps, leading some to hope that the weird part of the show will get truly weird. But part of me fears that this is all a red herring and that the Yellow King isn’t anything more than what he appears to be on the surface — just a very bad man, something very familiar to TV viewers. Which, for me, would be very disappointing given the level of mythology that has rapidly built up around this show. And while it seems silly to drop Lost levels of Easter-egg-ness into a show that runs only eight episodes, that’s exactly what everyone seems to be doing. So let’s take a look at some theories about who the series’ master villain could be. (And head over to the True Detective subreddit where these, and many other crazy theories — the Yellow King is the owner of the Vietnamese sandwich shop — can be found.)

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1. Rust Cohle

Did Cohle smell too much of the psychosphere and take over where Reggie Ledoux left off? In Sunday's episode, as if coming out of a dream after several years of normal living — being good at his job, but also maintaining a relationship — he hears the name of the Yellow King during a routine interrogation and is set off. Soon, he's back at the abandoned school from episode three, the one he never entered because Hart distracted him with news that they had gotten a line on Ledoux. Inside, he finds creepy drawings on the walls and many stick-figure devil traps. Does the madness take him over?

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2. Martin Hart

Tow-headed (the blonde/yellow king), alcoholic, and with a daughter who shows signs (see: drawings, dolls) of being introduced to sexual content at an early age, Hart blows Reggie Ledoux away rather than run the risk of his true identity becoming known. His mention in episode five of having gone hunting once is interesting specifically for his mention of having bagged a ten-point buck, the same number of points that matches Dora Lange's crown. (And, as mentioned above, he drew Cohle away from the Tuttle school that first time.)

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Hart is the one who speaks of suffering from the detective's curse — missing that which is right under your nose — but maybe it's Cohle who was blind to his partner's true self. (Or, as the revivalist preacher says in episode three, "The face you wear is not your own.") Also, someone spotted this familiar swirly pattern in Hart's house. What does it mean?

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3. Hart's father-in-law

"I've seen kids today," he says in episode two. "All in black, wearing makeup, shit on their faces. Everything's [about] sex." That is exactly how Hart's older daughter looks in 2002. It's an odd coincidence, but not completely out of place for a show that employs the phrase "time is a flat circle" and that had one of its main characters (Cohle) utter in its opening minutes, "This is gonna happen again. Or it's happened before. Both." But if Hart didn't do it, then maybe his pining-for-the-past, slightly racist father-in-law did. (And perhaps he molested his granddaughter who, we later see, wears a princess crown that flies up into the tree on the family's front lawn.) He was definitely introduced for a reason, and he comes off as wealthy and potentially connected, the type of man whom Ledoux's former roommate talked about as going down south to the place in the woods with the old stones looking for some "good killing."

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4. Preacher Tuttle

Another example, alongside Hart's father-in-law, of Chekov's Rich White Man. How could this guy NOT be the one? He was introduced in the very first episode, alongside mentions of a task force wanting to take over the Dora Lange investigation. Tuttle's name is also attached to the school that episode five so ominously ends on. He's cousin to the governor, which leads to suspect No. 5 ...

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5. Governor Tuttle

It really would be so predictable if a high-up government official also turned out to be part of a child-murdering cult, but, you know, we've seen it before. He could be using the idea of a cult, and cultish symbols, to throw investigators off his trail.

6. The Lawnmower Man

Possibly, but unlikely given the reverence with which people speak of the Yellow King, a simple functionary seems out of the question. But maybe he's the green-eared spaghetti monster?

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7. No one, because there is no Yellow King.

He's a made-up god or deity or simply a story that people tell each other when they're on drugs or a made-up Big Bad used as a diversion, à la Keyser Soze.

8. The owner of this fast-food franchise.

Patton Oswalt cracked the code, y'all.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Who spotted the looming yellow crown on tonight's <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23TrueDetective&amp;src=hash">#TrueDetective</a>? <a href="http://t.co/MUa60ppVeL">pic.twitter.com/MUa60ppVeL</a></p>&mdash; Patton Oswalt (@pattonoswalt) <a href="https://twitter.com/pattonoswalt/statuses/435281253789487104">February 17, 2014</a></blockquote>
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9. The leaders of a bayou cult of Old God worshippers.

Please, God, please. I'll do anything you ask if this turns out to be the show's resolution. Amen.
 
I saw in an Reddit thread and it kind of resonated..... anyone else think Hart's eldest child is showing all the signs of someone who's been molested? The drawing in elementary school, the Barbie doll gang bang, and now the parked car double-team. Trying to figure out how they use her character moving forward or if she's just contributing to their eventual broken marriage.

Also interesting how transparent the Behind the Episode stuff is. How they reveal that Coyle asks for a beer so that anything he says becomes inadmissible. He seems way to smart to need such a tactic unless he's a legitimate suspect.

Crazy good. Keep saying it. The show has a 9.5/10 rating on IMDB which makes it the 4th highest-rated TV show of all time.

That's a really good spot.

Man, I'm really starting wonder about Hart.
 
There's a post on reddit about how Marie Fontenot (the abducted girl whose case should have gone statewide but didn't) was probably from The Light of the Way school. Her mom said in the interview that her school closed down in 1992 after Hurricane Andrew, same reason the school closed. In fact, Rust apparently asks the two detectives how it should appear suspicious, but they don't react to it.
 
Just read a really convincing theory and I'm hesitant to share because I feel so strongly it might be correct, and thus ruin the series.

Here is a link. Just a warning, but it's pretty convincing, and if it turns out this is correct, I'd have rather not known, as I think it's a pretty solid way to go with the show.

http://minx.cc/?post=347366
 
Just read a really convincing theory and I'm hesitant to share because I feel so strongly it might be correct, and thus ruin the series.

Here is a link. Just a warning, but it's pretty convincing, and if it turns out this is correct, I'd have rather not known, as I think it's a pretty solid way to go with the show.

http://minx.cc/?post=347366

Very tempting to read it, but this show is too precious to me to be ruined.

Will power. :eekrun:
 
Just read a really convincing theory and I'm hesitant to share because I feel so strongly it might be correct, and thus ruin the series.

Here is a link. Just a warning, but it's pretty convincing, and if it turns out this is correct, I'd have rather not known, as I think it's a pretty solid way to go with the show.

http://minx.cc/?post=347366

No way. Will not click.

26 hours til episode 6.
 
Just read a really convincing theory and I'm hesitant to share because I feel so strongly it might be correct, and thus ruin the series.

Here is a link. Just a warning, but it's pretty convincing, and if it turns out this is correct, I'd have rather not known, as I think it's a pretty solid way to go with the show.

http://minx.cc/?post=347366

I hope it's wrong, although that's not a bad way to see it... Honestly, I don't think that this show and where it goes can be ruined. I just think that the fun part will be the unraveling of the story. The greatest part of this show has been the messaging by the writers/producers. Even if that site is correct, there is a lot yet to be explained.
 
I don't think the blog is right, apart from the bit about the child abuse. Its a good idea but it doesn't fit in one way
why would someone choose to be murdered in such a horrific way for euthanasia? surely they would rather have some dignity and not spoil the memory for their families?
i suppose suicide is a sin right? I do think the teenage girl is going to be the plot device to help increase the peril, although i just realised she must be like 27 in 2013 and the case hasnt been solved yet so maybe not
 
Like to think it could be the preacher.

I hope it's not hart
 
Never been this enticed about a show that has barely any action. That last scene last episode, which was amazing, was the first real action scene and it was awesome. Can't wait to see what they do when they confront Ledoux after how badass they had him looking. Can't believe Matthew McConaughey has become this good of an actor.

This show has made me respect him so much more... Never thought he was any good till now
 
Let's discuss what we think happens between Hart and Cohle? My guess is we find out in this next episode.

My initial thought: Nothing. Cohle went off the grid to pursue the case and they played it off like they had a big falling out, but really have continued working together.

Other take, he catches Cohle with his wife again, and blows up again.
 
Let's discuss what we think happens between Hart and Cohle? My guess is we find out in this next episode.

My initial thought: Nothing. Cohle went off the grid to pursue the case and they played it off like they had a big falling out, but really have continued working together.

Other take, he catches Cohle with his wife again, and blows up again.

I am leaning towards option A. I think there was a thing about their bond, saying that killing reggie meant that whatever they felt towards each other they would be linked and help each other no matter what. Given Rusts undercover skills i think its all a scam
 
Looks like it was option B. Wish we got to see a little more of her, but the other girl from T-Mobile was fan-fucking-tastic.
 
Hell hath no fury....

Can't say I blame her, but damn, that was dirty.
 

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