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The Ongoing Attendance Problem

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What Is the Biggest Reason for Attendance Being So Poor?

  • Larry Dolan Doesn't Spend Enough Money

    Votes: 32 27.4%
  • Lack of On-Field Success

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Lack of a Marketable Superstar

    Votes: 12 10.3%
  • Cleveland Cannot Support Three Professional Sports Teams

    Votes: 9 7.7%
  • The Economy

    Votes: 8 6.8%

  • Total voters
    117
If You Build It, Stay In First Place, Improve the Weather, Lower Prices, etc., They Will Come



A clever heckler shouted those words at Chicago’s Brent Lillibridge during the first game of Monday’s double header between the Indians and White Sox. You didn’t have to be within earshot to hear the trash talk at Progressive Field on the sunny afternoon, when the announced attendance of 9,196 appeared to be closer to about 600.

After all, how many people have the flexibility within their schedule to skip work on a Monday and attend a makeup game? Well, crowds that scarce have been the norm at the corner of Carnegie and Ontario.

Team president Mark Shapiro told me the attendance has been “slightly below expectations,” but the Indians rank last in all of baseball in attendance, averaging 14,291 fans per home game. Given the dynamics of April and May weather in Cleveland, that number might not appear too surprising. But the Tribe ranks far behind the rest of the pack, checking in more than 5,000 fans per game behind Oakland, which ranks 29th with 19,763 fans per contest.

“Weather, certainly for cold-weather markets like this, has a huge impact,” Shapiro said. “There is a lot of weather volatility that exists early in the season. So when we plan here, and I would assume other teams plan similarly, although on a different scale, we certainly take into account the challenges that exist in April and May. Our expectations are different in April and May than they are in June, July and August.”

Weather can’t be the only decisive factor shunning fans from the ballpark. When the two-time reigning American League champion Texas Rangers were in town last weekend, the Indians averaged about 18,000 fans for the three games that included the first fireworks show of the year, a Chris Perez replica jersey giveaway, the grand opening of the Indians Kids Clubhouse and ideal spring weather.

The Indians compare their ticket sales and revenue streams to clubs in similar markets, such as Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Tampa Bay, Oakland and Kansas City. All five of those teams rank in the bottom half of the league in attendance. Still, the Reds draw more than 10,000 fans per game more than the Indians. Even the Pirates, who have suffered through 19 consecutive losing seasons and countless chilly springs, attract nearly 23,000 per night.

So what’s the difference in Cleveland?
The Indians once set the standard for attendance, selling out a then-record 455 consecutive games. Shapiro cautions not to make comparisons between the era of the ’90s Indians and today.

“The 455 is representative of a great era of Indians baseball that’s worthy of celebration,” he said, “but when calibrating business expectations and metrics, it was a different city with a different set of market conditions. Our organization was run with a different set of operational parameters. It’s not a lens which we can look through or should look through when setting expectations or evaluating performance in today’s world.”

In the ’90s, the Indians prospered from a booming economy, being a perennial championship contender playing in a brand new ballpark and the fact that Art Modell relocated the Browns. Fans, tired of repeated rebuilding processes over the last 10 years, have routinely quipped that they’ll start showing up when the team proves its merit on the field. Not everyone buys that notion, however.

“We’re in first place,” said Tribe closer Chris Perez. “What else do they want? They keep saying, ‘We’ll see if this team’s good.’ Well what are you waiting for? We’re in first place. Are you going to wait until we win the World Series and then come to the parade?”

Perez has a point. The Indians drew even fewer fans last spring. Attendance through 18 home games in 2012 is actually up four percent. Crowds increased as spring turned to summer, but only by enough to get the Indians to 24th in the final attendance rankings for 2011.

This might just be the Cleveland standard, however. In 2007, when the club last qualified for the postseason, the Indians ranked 21st in attendance. The following season, the Tribe checked in at 22nd.

“There is no question that making the playoffs has an impact on attendance the following season,” Shapiro said. “From market to market, the magnitude of that impact varies greatly. There are a host of variables that affect how great of an impact it has. Recency of playoff performance and contention, size of market, any number of factors can enter into it.”

For the 2012 campaign, the Indians have sold a little more than 8,000 season ticket packages. When faced with economically driven choices, Clevelanders would prefer to spend their disposable income on the Browns, who drew nearly 66,000 fans per home game in 2011, 18th in the NFL. While they filled 90 percent of Cleveland Browns Stadium, no NFL team filled less than 75 percent. The Indians, on the other hand, have filled 32.9 percent of Progressive Field this season.

The Indians have done everything in their power to alter that line of thinking. They have lowered bleacher seats to $10. They have tried to combat high concessions prices with All-You-Can-Eat seats. They have given away tickets on social media outlets.

Is the problem baseball as a whole? Fourteen years ago, the sport captured America with its thrilling home run race. Then, the game appealed to anyone with an appetite for round-trippers and slugfests. Now, as @ZoneStar26 pointed out on Twitter, we live in an age of instant gratification. So as the sport evolves and becomes more statistic-based, people have lost interest. After all, most people don’t find sabermetrics sexy.

Minor League options might also take away from the Indians’ ability to draw. Anyone within a short distance of Cleveland can drive to Akron to see the Aeros, Lake County to see the Captains, Columbus to see the Clippers or Lake Erie to see the Crushers.

Shapiro said he is “not surprised and not worried” about the early-season attendance figures, predicting that the ballpark will host a greater number of fans when the weather heats up.

“The more we can heighten demand or provide greater value in April and May and win, the better chance we have of increasing attendance,” Shapiro said. “But it’s always going to be, to a certain extent, a lot less than the summer months.”

Manager Manny Acta didn’t want to touch the subject when asked. He did, however, project optimism.

“They’ll come,” he said.

Clearly, there are a number of external factors keeping fans away from the ballpark during the season’s early months. Surely, more fans will pass through the turnstiles as the weather heats up and if the team remains in contention.

But will the crowds be large enough to drone out the hecklers?

http://throwinheat.mlblogs.com/2012...-the-weather-lower-prices-etc-they-will-come/
 
Me? Nothing.

If the team was consistently good and I was in Cleveland, I'd attend a few regular season games a year, all home playoff games and watch most of the games on TV. If the team was mediocre or worse, I'd probably go to a few less games than if they were good. For the most part though, I'd ignore them.

I'm a "bad fan," "front-runner," etc, etc. What I am not, is a moron or an idiot. Anyone here can call me one if they'd like. Fact is...as I've gotten older, I've started caring less and less about sports.

you have over 20,000 posts on a sports message board.
 
The attendance looked pretty decent tonight. Looked like it was almost a sell out.
 
Not sure if this has been brought up, but growing up in Columbus dealing with the drive always made it difficult to go to games. In 2009 the AAA Columbus Clippers became the affiliate of the Cleveland Indians and also opened a very nice new stadium in downtown. Attendance has been great at the ballpark.

2009 - 666,797 / Avg. Per Game: 9,526
2010 - 635,141 / Avg. Per Game: 9,074
2011 - 591,884 / Avg. Per Game: 8,455

The have also won the AAA International League Title the last 2 years. With the price of gas, parking, and food you'll have to buy at some point during the duration of the trip, it is a lot easier for a family to justify driving 30 minutes into town after dinner watching a baseball game and being home before midnight. Also being the AAA affiliate fans get to watch a lot of names they recognize and players they know will soon be with the Indians. Quite a few players I saw play in 2009 were on the Indians in 2010.
 
Shapiro said on twitter that they are expecting a big crowd tonight and that bleachers are almost sold out. About time there was a big crowd.
 
Me? Nothing.

If the team was consistently good and I was in Cleveland, I'd attend a few regular season games a year, all home playoff games and watch most of the games on TV. If the team was mediocre or worse, I'd probably go to a few less games than if they were good. For the most part though, I'd ignore them.

I'm a "bad fan," "front-runner," etc, etc. What I am not, is a moron or an idiot. Anyone here can call me one if they'd like. Fact is...as I've gotten older, I've started caring less and less about sports.

You are a moron and an idiot.
 
Shapiro said on twitter that they are expecting a big crowd tonight and that bleachers are almost sold out. About time there was a big crowd.

What are they giving away?
 
I think it's a bobble head night.
 
I think it's a bobble head night.

Sunday is bobble head day and like someone else said once they realize Joe Carter wasn't a major league character they won't want it. Tonight is Fireworks and Student ID night. They will be lucky to get 22,000.
 
Was planning on walking up right when the game started tonight... looks like I'll have to go a little bit earlier.
 
you have over 20,000 posts on a sports message board.

95% in oteayor, especially over the last couple years. LOVE the board (except for Max, X, Quad, Deezy, FlaCavsfan, CBBI, and 10-12 other guys)...care a lot less about the teams than i did initially.

Not gonna spend much more time defending myself. I'm in my mind...you're not.

I think at least five of those posts explained my position re: attendance too. Another argument I'm sick of.
 
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