adam81king
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I'm gonna need a player to sport a monkey's tail beard.
Scot Pollard would have...
I'm gonna need a player to sport a monkey's tail beard.
Wow, you certainly nailed it.@Cavatt had asked elsewhere what development, if any, is there left with Prince and specifically about his shooting. Here is what I found about his offensive profile in general:
Spot Up:
20-21: 35.8% frequency, 1.15 PPP, 51.6% eFG%, 64th percentile among qualified players.
19-20: 42.1% frequency, 0.91 PPP, 49.1% eFG%, 37th percentile.
18-19: 27.0% frequency, 1.17 PPP, 61.7% eFG%, 89th percentile.
17-18: 27.0% frequency, 0.98 PPP, 52.4% eFG%, 49th percentile.
Transition:
20-21: 25.3% frequency, 1.04 PPP, 53.3% eFG%, 38th percentile.
19-20: 18.6% frequency, 0.98 PPP, 55.4% eFG%, 23rd percentile.
18-19: 22.5% frequency, 1.02 PPP, 55.6% eFG%, 32nd percentile.
17-18: 18.0% frequency, 1.02 PPP, 58.8 eFG%, 35th percentile.
Pick-and-Roll Ball Handler:
20-21: 16.8% frequency, 0.69 PPP, 42.3% eFG%, 19th percentile.
19-20: 7.4% frequency, 0.66 PPP, 40.7% eFG%, 19th percentile.
18-19: 19.3% frequency, 0.82 PPP, 44.4% eFG%, 49th percentile.
17-18: 19.3% frequency, 0.63 PPP, 41.3% eFG%, 18th percentile.
Off-Screen:
20-21: not qualified
19-20: 9.5% frequency, 0.85 PPP, 46.1% eFG%, 31st percentile.
18-19: 5.5% frequency, 1.10 PPP, 64.7% eFG%, 84th percentile.
17-18: 14.3% frequency, 1.01 PPP, 51.6% eFG%, 60th percentile.
Cuts:
20-21: Not qualified.
19-20: 1.8% frequency, 1.06 PPP, 57.1% FG%, 14th percentile.
18-19: 2.5% frequency, 1.61 PPP, 81.3% FG%, 96th percentile.
17-18: 2.0% frequency, 1.40 PPP, 69.6% FG%, 81st percentile.
So right off the bat, from a "what do we want him doing on offense" standpoint. Take the ball out of his hands, full stop. If there is any area the Cavs can and should develop, it's putting him in position where ~75% of his touches are coming in spot up, off-screen, or cutting situations where he doesn't have the ball. He clearly has the skills to be a good off-ball player, but he also clearly has shown over multiple seasons that he is a huge negative with the ball in his hands. He's atrocious driving to the basket, averaging 4 drives per game, a FG% under 40%, and a turnover percentage over 10% his last 2 seasons. But he's proven he can be a good catch-and-shoot player with multiple seasons with an eFG% over 60% in that situation.
With, when healthy, Garland, Sexton, Cedi, Nance, and Dotson doing most of the ball-handling/playmaking and a clear emphasis on wanting to play through our bigs in the post and on the elbow, we should be in a position to do just that with Prince.
We need a catch-and-shoot presence as is. We are dead last in catch-and-shoot attempts per game in the league, something that I think changes when Drummond is moved (we average the 2nd most post-ups per game in the league, sure that takes away). As we move away from the post-centric offense and into more of a typical modern day NBA offense (pick and rolls, off-ball screens to get shooters open, drive and kicks) I hope we keep some of the things that came with it, specifically our wings consistency in back-door cuts this year (we are 3rd in the league in cut frequency as as a team). That kind of playstyle is right up Prince's alley in what he actually does well offensively.
I'll get to defense here a little later.
Offensively, looks like the Cavs agree. He was doing pretty well on catch and shoot, or other scenarios with the ball out of his hands.@Cavatt had asked elsewhere what development, if any, is there left with Prince and specifically about his shooting. Here is what I found about his offensive profile in general:
Spot Up:
20-21: 35.8% frequency, 1.15 PPP, 51.6% eFG%, 64th percentile among qualified players.
19-20: 42.1% frequency, 0.91 PPP, 49.1% eFG%, 37th percentile.
18-19: 27.0% frequency, 1.17 PPP, 61.7% eFG%, 89th percentile.
17-18: 27.0% frequency, 0.98 PPP, 52.4% eFG%, 49th percentile.
Transition:
20-21: 25.3% frequency, 1.04 PPP, 53.3% eFG%, 38th percentile.
19-20: 18.6% frequency, 0.98 PPP, 55.4% eFG%, 23rd percentile.
18-19: 22.5% frequency, 1.02 PPP, 55.6% eFG%, 32nd percentile.
17-18: 18.0% frequency, 1.02 PPP, 58.8 eFG%, 35th percentile.
Pick-and-Roll Ball Handler:
20-21: 16.8% frequency, 0.69 PPP, 42.3% eFG%, 19th percentile.
19-20: 7.4% frequency, 0.66 PPP, 40.7% eFG%, 19th percentile.
18-19: 19.3% frequency, 0.82 PPP, 44.4% eFG%, 49th percentile.
17-18: 19.3% frequency, 0.63 PPP, 41.3% eFG%, 18th percentile.
Off-Screen:
20-21: not qualified
19-20: 9.5% frequency, 0.85 PPP, 46.1% eFG%, 31st percentile.
18-19: 5.5% frequency, 1.10 PPP, 64.7% eFG%, 84th percentile.
17-18: 14.3% frequency, 1.01 PPP, 51.6% eFG%, 60th percentile.
Cuts:
20-21: Not qualified.
19-20: 1.8% frequency, 1.06 PPP, 57.1% FG%, 14th percentile.
18-19: 2.5% frequency, 1.61 PPP, 81.3% FG%, 96th percentile.
17-18: 2.0% frequency, 1.40 PPP, 69.6% FG%, 81st percentile.
So right off the bat, from a "what do we want him doing on offense" standpoint. Take the ball out of his hands, full stop. If there is any area the Cavs can and should develop, it's putting him in position where ~75% of his touches are coming in spot up, off-screen, or cutting situations where he doesn't have the ball. He clearly has the skills to be a good off-ball player, but he also clearly has shown over multiple seasons that he is a huge negative with the ball in his hands. He's atrocious driving to the basket, averaging 4 drives per game, a FG% under 40%, and a turnover percentage over 10% his last 2 seasons. But he's proven he can be a good catch-and-shoot player with multiple seasons with an eFG% over 60% in that situation.
With, when healthy, Garland, Sexton, Cedi, Nance, and Dotson doing most of the ball-handling/playmaking and a clear emphasis on wanting to play through our bigs in the post and on the elbow, we should be in a position to do just that with Prince.
We need a catch-and-shoot presence as is. We are dead last in catch-and-shoot attempts per game in the league, something that I think changes when Drummond is moved (we average the 2nd most post-ups per game in the league, sure that takes away). As we move away from the post-centric offense and into more of a typical modern day NBA offense (pick and rolls, off-ball screens to get shooters open, drive and kicks) I hope we keep some of the things that came with it, specifically our wings consistency in back-door cuts this year (we are 3rd in the league in cut frequency as as a team). That kind of playstyle is right up Prince's alley in what he actually does well offensively.
I'll get to defense here a little later.
@Cavatt had asked elsewhere what development, if any, is there left with Prince and specifically about his shooting. Here is what I found about his offensive profile in general:
Spot Up:
20-21: 35.8% frequency, 1.15 PPP, 51.6% eFG%, 64th percentile among qualified players.
19-20: 42.1% frequency, 0.91 PPP, 49.1% eFG%, 37th percentile.
18-19: 27.0% frequency, 1.17 PPP, 61.7% eFG%, 89th percentile.
17-18: 27.0% frequency, 0.98 PPP, 52.4% eFG%, 49th percentile.
Transition:
20-21: 25.3% frequency, 1.04 PPP, 53.3% eFG%, 38th percentile.
19-20: 18.6% frequency, 0.98 PPP, 55.4% eFG%, 23rd percentile.
18-19: 22.5% frequency, 1.02 PPP, 55.6% eFG%, 32nd percentile.
17-18: 18.0% frequency, 1.02 PPP, 58.8 eFG%, 35th percentile.
Pick-and-Roll Ball Handler:
20-21: 16.8% frequency, 0.69 PPP, 42.3% eFG%, 19th percentile.
19-20: 7.4% frequency, 0.66 PPP, 40.7% eFG%, 19th percentile.
18-19: 19.3% frequency, 0.82 PPP, 44.4% eFG%, 49th percentile.
17-18: 19.3% frequency, 0.63 PPP, 41.3% eFG%, 18th percentile.
Off-Screen:
20-21: not qualified
19-20: 9.5% frequency, 0.85 PPP, 46.1% eFG%, 31st percentile.
18-19: 5.5% frequency, 1.10 PPP, 64.7% eFG%, 84th percentile.
17-18: 14.3% frequency, 1.01 PPP, 51.6% eFG%, 60th percentile.
Cuts:
20-21: Not qualified.
19-20: 1.8% frequency, 1.06 PPP, 57.1% FG%, 14th percentile.
18-19: 2.5% frequency, 1.61 PPP, 81.3% FG%, 96th percentile.
17-18: 2.0% frequency, 1.40 PPP, 69.6% FG%, 81st percentile.
So right off the bat, from a "what do we want him doing on offense" standpoint. Take the ball out of his hands, full stop. If there is any area the Cavs can and should develop, it's putting him in position where ~75% of his touches are coming in spot up, off-screen, or cutting situations where he doesn't have the ball. He clearly has the skills to be a good off-ball player, but he also clearly has shown over multiple seasons that he is a huge negative with the ball in his hands. He's atrocious driving to the basket, averaging 4 drives per game, a FG% under 40%, and a turnover percentage over 10% his last 2 seasons. But he's proven he can be a good catch-and-shoot player with multiple seasons with an eFG% over 60% in that situation.
With, when healthy, Garland, Sexton, Cedi, Nance, and Dotson doing most of the ball-handling/playmaking and a clear emphasis on wanting to play through our bigs in the post and on the elbow, we should be in a position to do just that with Prince.
We need a catch-and-shoot presence as is. We are dead last in catch-and-shoot attempts per game in the league, something that I think changes when Drummond is moved (we average the 2nd most post-ups per game in the league, sure that takes away). As we move away from the post-centric offense and into more of a typical modern day NBA offense (pick and rolls, off-ball screens to get shooters open, drive and kicks) I hope we keep some of the things that came with it, specifically our wings consistency in back-door cuts this year (we are 3rd in the league in cut frequency as as a team). That kind of playstyle is right up Prince's alley in what he actually does well offensively.
I'll get to defense here a little later.
He and Allen add to the cultureThe Athletic has a column on Prince and Allen which included this:
Now in Cleveland, surrounded by young players and seasoned vets, Prince wants to take advantage of his opportunity. The Cavs’ style of play reminds Prince of when he played at Baylor. He believes he can contribute defensively, guarding multiple positions, and shoot more 3s on the offensive end.
When Prince sat on the sidelines Friday, he noticed how hard Cleveland plays. Then, when he practiced, he saw how willing the players are as learners, working to improve every day. They listened. They took coaching. Prince doesn’t think he has reached his full potential, but he sees the Cavs’ environment as one that can help him reach his potential.
Coach J.B. Bickerstaff appreciates the versatility in Prince’s game, as he’s able to play shooting guard, small forward or power forward when needed.
Prince, 26, believes he can be a voice of leadership and bring knowledge and experience from his five years in the league.
“Pulling young guys to the side and guiding them through some situations that he feels like he’s unsure about, that’s what I’ll do as well,” Prince said. “Just trying to leave my mark and be a positive to this organization in any way I can.”
He did a great job bouncing back after the slow start...