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Cleveland Guardians Offseason Discussion 2021-22

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Lee said:
I was right there with you, had no idea we had 2 Mejia's, lol
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The Catcher we traded for Hand and the right hander we just traded to the Brewers, so now it's down to none...
 
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When looking at our SP prospects that can reasonably be in Columbus sometime next year and possibly be rotational depth in 2022, one thing I look at is K/BB ratio. This is what these kids did over the entire 2021 season:

Morris....5.0
Pilkington....3.08
Morgan....3.09
Allen, jr.....5.50
Battenfield....6.89
Curry.....7.69
Myers....5.21

In comparison, these career MLB numbers:

Bieber....5.41
Plesac...3.06
Civale....3.40
Quantrill...2.90
TMac......2.66

Not in anyway suggesting that MiLB ratios hold up in MLB, but the foundation seems to be there for all the kids.

Going a little farther, these are the ratios our present rotation had in their last full minor league seasons before getting to MLB:

Bieber.....16.20 (LOL)
Plesac....3.57
Civale......3.71
Quantrill...2.86
TMac....3.11
 
Funny thing.

The Indians had to know about Tadanos other part time job, because everybody in Japan did.

He was expected to be a high draft pick in the NPB, but every team in the league passed on drafting him, because of the porn scandal....which is why he came to America.

The Tribe is known for doing its homework, so either the FO blew it, or maybe the FO thought it wouldn't come out.

Tadano roared thru three levels in his first pro season, putting up some strong numbers in over 90 IP as a reliever....but couldn't sustain it in Cleveland.
 
CATS44 said:
Funny thing.

The Indians had to know about Tadanos other part time job, because everybody in Japan did.

He was expected to be a high draft pick in the NPB, but every team in the league passed on drafting him, because of the porn scandal....which is why he came to America.

The Tribe is known for doing its homework, so either the FO blew it, or maybe the FO thought it wouldn't come out.

Tadano roared thru three levels in his first pro season, putting up some strong numbers in over 90 IP as a reliever....but couldn't sustain it in Cleveland.
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The Indians had video showing he sucked but they signed him anyway.
 
Criznit said:
It was his EXCELLENCE as a RP that thrusted him into a starting roll when Aiken and others were injured/couldn't perform. He should have a 50/50 chance of being a ML pitcher at this point, especially with another option...

I don't care that we moved on, but this guy ain't trash... At least not yet... Just rejected from the "Cleveland Pitching Factory".
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I never said he was trash, just that he wasn’t that promising.
 
Tadano pitched for the Bisons and I saw him a couple of times. He occasionally threw an “eephus pitch” (he called it by another name which I can’t recall) that floated up to the plate at about 25 mph.
 
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BimboColesHair said:
Everyone who has played with him, coached with him, or has been coached by him says he is one of the smartest minds in baseball. He has found a good way to take all of the analytical data at players fingertips and turn that into an actionable adjustment as opposed to just it being data for data's sake. He had an interesting post playing career stretch where he worked for a musculoskeletal sports science company and trained with/studied the anatomical and analytical nuances of a baseball swing, which I don't think I've ever heard of anyone doing that in baseball.
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“I was always really curious on individualization (of hitters and athletes),” Valaika said. “We worked with force plates at Sparta Science. Taking that over to Chicago, it wasn’t necessarily the technology as much as it was really understanding how each athlete moves and how they tick and being able to try to tailor a plan based on what they do well, what they don’t do well, rather than just trying to throw blanket drill packages or approach or goals”.

Welcome to the modern world, Cleveland hitters.

Here's more if you want to learn more about your new hitting coach.

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New hitting coach Chris Valaika ready to pop the hood on Cleveland Guardians’ hitters

Chris Valaika has traveled many paths in his baseball career and they've all led him to Cleveland.
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BimboColesHair said:
“I was always really curious on individualization (of hitters and athletes),” Valaika said. “We worked with force plates at Sparta Science. Taking that over to Chicago, it wasn’t necessarily the technology as much as it was really understanding how each athlete moves and how they tick and being able to try to tailor a plan based on what they do well, what they don’t do well, rather than just trying to throw blanket drill packages or approach or goals”.

Welcome to the modern world, Cleveland hitters.

Here's more if you want to learn more about your new hitting coach.

www.cleveland.com

New hitting coach Chris Valaika ready to pop the hood on Cleveland Guardians’ hitters

Chris Valaika has traveled many paths in his baseball career and they've all led him to Cleveland.
www.cleveland.com www.cleveland.com
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Really interested to see what Valaika can do with Bradley and Straw.
Bradley obviously needs to make more contact.
It would be nice if Straw could drive the ball better. But that's tricky because Straw's game is getting on base.
If Hedges bats .210 in 22, Valaika should get a raise.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Really interested to see what Valaika can do with Bradley and Straw.
Bradley obviously needs to make more contact.
It would be nice if Straw could drive the ball better. But that's tricky because Straw's game is getting on base.
If Hedges bats .210 in 22, Valaika should get a raise.
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Can't help but wonder if they intend to see what Chris can do with the existing roster(for the most part) and maybe sign or trade for 1 corner OFer. Can he help Bradley, Zimmer, and Mercado reach their potentials? Not the path I want to see at this time, but WTF do I know.
 
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