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2018 Cleveland Browns Off Season Thread

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Amherstcavsfan said:
McCloughan also has publically stated that Mayfield is his QB1
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Wow this is actually terrifying. Baker is also the main player Dorsey has raved about so far. Just inferring from the whole "football guy" thing, he's probably enamored with his "moxie" and "intangibles" and "competitiveness".

I'm scared that if we get enough of these jerkoffs in the same room we might create an echo chamber where they actually believe Baker Mayfield is worth #1 overall.

I'm officially concerned.
 
As soon @AZ_ starts pulling me towards Rosen and Away from Mayfield. McCloughan is an Extremely Good Talent evaluator. Definitely Seems Enamored with Baker.
 
I realize the Browns have the most Cap Space in the NFL and the Jets have the second most.
I think the Browns are going to be signing Kirk Cousins. At my sports book where I gamble, I noticed they have a prop bet as to where Kirk Cousins will be playing come 1st week of 2018 season. I noticed the Browns have the lowest odds or favorites to be the team of where he would be signing. I know that doesn't always mean it's going to happen, but thought I would pass it along to everyone. All I keep hearing is the Jets are supposed to be in the lead for Cousins. We shall see?
 
Tressel33 said:
I realize the Browns have the most Cap Space in the NFL and the Jets have the second most.
I think the Browns are going to be signing Kirk Cousins. At my sports book where I gamble, I noticed they have a prop bet as to where Kirk Cousins will be playing come 1st week of 2018 season. I noticed the Browns have the lowest odds or favorites to be the team of where he would be signing. I know that doesn't always mean it's going to happen, but thought I would pass it along to everyone. All I keep hearing is the Jets are supposed to be in the lead for Cousins. We shall see?
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Don’t get your hopes up.
 
Tressel33 said:
I realize the Browns have the most Cap Space in the NFL and the Jets have the second most.
I think the Browns are going to be signing Kirk Cousins. At my sports book where I gamble, I noticed they have a prop bet as to where Kirk Cousins will be playing come 1st week of 2018 season. I noticed the Browns have the lowest odds or favorites to be the team of where he would be signing. I know that doesn't always mean it's going to happen, but thought I would pass it along to everyone. All I keep hearing is the Jets are supposed to be in the lead for Cousins. We shall see?
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Literally ever sports book I’ve seen has the Broncos around a -150.

Bovada (As Of Friday)

Broncos (-150)

Jets (+300) 3/1

Browns (+400) 4/1

Cardinals (+500) 5/1

Bills (+1000) 10/1

Giants (+2000) 20/1

Jaguars (+2000) 20/1




The Browns hiring a guy who said he doesn’t see special in Kirk will probably affect that some.
 
Definitely a solid move by Dorsey. All we need now is McKenzie and Schneider, and we'll have Ron Wolf's whole scouting tree.
 
Found this: Old but interesting.


By ANDREW BRANDT
January 14, 2015
By hiring Scot McCloughan to be their general manager, the Redskins, at long last, may be transforming themselves into a team that builds for sustained success rather than always searching for a quick fix. McCloughan (pictured above, right) is a seasoned scout who has been given autonomy and authority to implement his skill set, and he’s always been energized by the search to find players. The future of player acquisition and retention bodes well for a team that has been challenged in that area.



I worked with McCloughan for a few years in Green Bay, and after he left I would see him regularly at league events. Scot is immediately likable; he’s always ready with a “Hey bud!” and an ever-present chaw of tobacco in his cheek. Whether in draft meetings or in chatter among the group, he was in his element talking about players (in sometimes NSFW language) and did so with conviction, even if he went against the consensus.



Scot now becomes the fifth current general manager from the scouting tree of former Packers general manager Ron Wolf, joining Ted Thompson (Packers), John Schneider (Seahawks), John Dorsey (Chiefs) and Reggie McKenzie (Raiders)—and, at some point soon Wolf's son, Eliot, who is the director of player personnel for the Packers. will be another. The elder Wolf, who hired me on the business side in Green Bay, was very direct in interviewing scouting candidates. After a few pleasantries, he would simply send the candidate to a dark room with a clicker and a sheet of paper to “write up” a player. Scouts were hired, or passed over, based on that scouting report. As Ron would sometimes note about a prospect, “He can’t play,” the GM would look at a potential scout’s report and say, “He can’t scout.” There was great clarity in his minimalist approach.



While some members of Wolf’s scouting tree are more aggressive in free agency than others, all were schooled in the philosophy of 1) building an infrastructure of young, reasonably priced players through the draft; 2) trusting coaches to play and develop young players; and 3) securing contract extensions with ascending core players before they reach their leverage point of free agency. The Redskins have now acquired the institutional knowledge not only of McCloughan, but also of Wolf, Thompson, Dorsey, Schneider and McKenzie—to say nothing of McCloughan’s subsequent experiences with the 49ers and Seahawks. For a team that has lost often in recent years, this is a nice win for Washington.



People in the league were aware of McCloughan’s issues with alcohol for some time, and he publicly addressed them in an ESPN The Magazine story in early December. The topic required vulnerability in the team’s interview process. There had to be open and honest communication, but Scot also had options, and he wasn’t going to rush to sign up for the wrong job. He needed assurances from Daniel Snyder and Bruce Allen that there wouldn’t be interference from the top and that everyone would be patient with his plan.



With that autonomy, McCloughan will install a more proven model of success, bringing stability to a franchise that has made too many impulsive decisions driven by emotion. He will develop a pipeline of young talent on a roster that has had too many holes in recent times. Scot will find players. He always has.
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https://www.si.com/2015/01/14/scot-mccloughan-washington-redskins-daniel-snyder-bruce-allen
 
The Browns new experiment: How many "football guys" does it take to fuck up a draft?
 
I'm just going to spend my football-related focustime between now and the draft prepping myself for the drafting of Baker Mayfield.
 
macbdog said:
I'm just going to spend my football-related focustime between now and the draft prepping myself for the drafting of Baker Mayfield.
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Would be wise.
 
AZ_ said:
Literally ever sports book I’ve seen has the Broncos around a -150.

Bovada (As Of Friday)

Broncos (-150)

Jets (+300) 3/1

Browns (+400) 4/1

Cardinals (+500) 5/1

Bills (+1000) 10/1

Giants (+2000) 20/1

Jaguars (+2000) 20/1




The Browns hiring a guy who said he doesn’t see special in Kirk will probably affect that some.
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Here you go

From Betdsi.eu as of 2:50 Sunday Afternoon Feb 4th

Kirk Cousins Team in week 1 of 2018 Regular Season

CLE +175

Jets +230

Broncos +300

Bills +450

Dolphins +750

Vikings +800

Cardinals +1000

Jaguars +1500

TB +1500
 
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