2019 Draft, Pick #30 - Kevin Porter Jr., USC

[red.]

Yeah, he’s doing the same thing he was doing in the g league. He looks good. That Rockets team has no one else out there and he’s willing em back.

 

[Dshuks]

25-3-7 on 50%shooting tonight as i type this. Yikes, he's going to make us look foolish. With his build and pure talent, I can definitely see him being the most successful of all our recent picks and he doesn't even play for us anymore.

 

[GeorgesNiang]

Yo this layup was insane

 

[inliner311]

I don't think he can make Koby look incompetent. Koby took a huge risk in drafting him, and gave him chance after chance after chance. His trade to Houston had nothing to do with his basketball ability. I hope KPJ figures it out, because he's a tantalizing talent, but knowing what we now know, I don't think that would have happened in Cleveland unfortunately.

I think there is a reason why other teams don't act as enforcers or do anything more than small fines and short game suspensions for breaking rules. They allow law enforcement and the league to deal out punishment for bad behavior. When you are in a players league like the NBA, a team basically is in the business of keeping their players happy.

I think if Koby is let go in the next year or two, this will be one of the reasons. Setting the bar for too high for the team culture he wanted to build and losing possibly top tier talent because of it. It will look worse and worse if KPJ assends.

 

["MVP"]

I think there is a reason why other teams don't act as enforcers or do anything more than small fines and short game suspensions for breaking rules. They allow law enforcement and the league to deal out punishment for bad behavior. When you are in a players league like the NBA, a team basically is in the business of keeping their players happy.

I think if Koby is let go in the next year or two, this will be one of the reasons. Setting the bar for too high for the team culture he wanted to build and losing possibly top tier talent because of it. It will look worse and worse if KPJ assends.

A lot of franchises place a premium on culture. I don't think the Spurs would have ever let KPJ through their doors and the Heat probably would have cut bait much sooner than us.

Plus, I don't think the bar is necessarily even set *high*. It sounds like KPJ couldn't even reach the lowest of bars.

 

[inliner311]

A lot of franchises place a premium on culture. I don't think the Spurs would have ever let KPJ through their doors and the Heat probably would have cut bait much sooner than us.

Plus, I don't think the bar is necessarily even set *high*. It sounds like KPJ couldn't even reach the lowest of bars.

I haven't heard of other teams that do suspensions for undefined timelines. They were trying to make him a better person and I think it went too far beyond basketball.

I think players get in trouble off the court and they usually just let the league or the courts decide their punishment because dealing with it internally usually doesn't end well. The expectations that they could go against the grain of the norms of the NBA and professional sports, is more of the high bar I'm referring to.

 

["MVP"]

I haven't heard of other teams that do suspensions for undefined timelines. They were trying to make him a better person and I think it went too far beyond basketball.

I think players get in trouble off the court and they usually just let the league or the courts decide their punishment because dealing with it internally usually doesn't end well. The expectations that they could go against the grain of the norms of the NBA and professional sports, is more of the high bar I'm referring to.

Didn't the Heat blackball Dion Waiters for eating an edible just last season?

 

[Cavatt]

A lot of franchises place a premium on culture. I don't think the Spurs would have ever let KPJ through their doors and the Heat probably would have cut bait much sooner than us.

Plus, I don't think the bar is necessarily even set *high*. It sounds like KPJ couldn't even reach the lowest of bars.

He saw they weren't going to let him play, even though the charges were dropped. He saw other guys take his minutes and his locker. He saw them rattling off wins without him. So he turned a table over, called Koby a slave master and got a ticket to a team that has nobody better than him.

He'll be the star of the Rockets soon without fulfilling any of Koby's hundred point plan. Who's the chump??

 

[inliner311]

Didn't the Heat blackball Dion Waiters for eating an edible just last season?

I didn't follow that real closely but from my quick Google search they announced defined suspension times each time. 6 or 10 games.

Suspensions and fines from teams aren't unheard of but have we heard of any other team keeping a player away from the team for months on end where they don't just want to get rid of the player.

They told KPJ to stay away for the whole summer and well into the season.

Even the Browns would try to keep Josh Gordon around the team and practicing when he got suspended so that they could show he was wanted.

 

[inliner311]

He saw they weren't going to let him play, even though the charges were dropped. He saw other guys take his minutes and his locker. He saw them rattling off wins without him. So he turned a table over, called Koby a slave master and got a ticket to a team that has nobody better than him.

He'll be the star of the Rockets soon without fulfilling any of Koby's hundred point plan. Who's the chump??

The other part of the equation that doesn't line up for me is how he did these bad things but charges were dropped or never filed. To me it seems like the Cavs as a organization had a hand in making those things go away. It just feels like it goes beyond what a good lawyer can do and more in line with having someone with very good connections getting something done as a favor or as pay back from a previous favor.

 

["MVP"]

He saw they weren't going to let him play, even though the charges were dropped. He saw other guys take his minutes and his locker. He saw them rattling off wins without him. So he turned a table over, called Koby a slave master and got a ticket to a team that has nobody better than him.

He'll be the star of the Rockets soon without fulfilling any of Koby's hundred point plan. Who's the chump??

Meh.

I don't think the Cavs handled the situation perfectly. Far from it. But come on. KPJ was arguably (maybe even clearly?) our most promising young talent. The minutes and opportunity would have been there for him to grab had he not completely squandered chance after chance.

There were no winners in this. KPJ damaged his reputation so deeply that I doubt he gets another chance if things go south in Houston. The Cavs lost a player that many of us felt was a special talent and a core piece to our rebuild. Just unfortunate all around.

I guess we're all chumps...

 

[bigfoot5415]

My IG has been blowing up with offers for the cards I have of his.

 

[Man Called X]

Okay, the rest of the season is going to be insufferable reading you all cry about the headcase. Time for another RCF vacation.

 

[red.]

 

[KevinLoveFan]

My IG has been blowing up with offers for the cards I have of his.

I got this one: