I don’t know if you want him playing there primarily though. I know people are gonna make the argument for position less basketball but position less basketball only works on teams that have players who can star at more than one position and guys who can guard multiple positions. Cavs aren there yet. We need a legit wing. Vassell looks more like a guard to me. I don’t know if he’s strong enough to play the 3. His handle is a little weak to me too.
Isaac Okoro is being compared to Jimmy Butler. Can Okoro play the 2 full time at the next level? I've seen too many prospects similar to him that have underwhelmed. Josh Jackson comes to mind.
Isaac Okoro is being compared to Jimmy Butler. Can Okoro play the 2 full time at the next level? I've seen too many prospects similar to him that have underwhelmed. Josh Jackson comes to mind.
I like that. He'd be a great addition to this team.I have heard this too, but I think Jalen Brown might be the better comparison. I was thinking about Jalen at 5 and I like that a lot. I wanted Okoro at the beginning of the season. I love his finishing, I just think he is special there. He has passing upside, he is a really high IQ guy, and he has a great body with + athleticism. HIs wiggle to the basket is impressive and he shakes off contact like nothing. 70% at the basket is really amazing and isn't getting enough attention.
I agree that the eye test tells more than stats on him. I am getting the same feeling I had about KPJ last year on him, but even more. I know shooting is a problem, but I think Nance, Cedi, and Collin all give me confidence they can get him to 36 or so on 3's.
I'm all in on Okoro now. Ball and Wiseman were the guys keeping me from saying he is our guy. From what I am hearing, Cavs think he has star upside. I think I agree. He is also a perfect cultural fit in terms of the super hard dog type worker. He, Sexton and Porter all fit that.
Important to note that rookies are very rarely net positives in their first year, and it's even less likely this year due to the lack of a normal off-season. Teams will have less time and fewer opportunities to integrate these rookies into their organizations and get them up to speed with an NBA program.
Temper those first-year expectations. It sounds like the Cavs are trying to win some games this year and that probably won't involve a rookie playing a large role.
Every team is on the same boat. The Cavs will have a hard time trading the 5th pick for a veteran star for the reasons you mentioned. It'll be a blessing in disguise in the long run. I don't want to trade youth for washed up players.Important to note that rookies are very rarely net positives in their first year, and it's even less likely this year due to the lack of a normal off-season. Teams will have less time and fewer opportunities to integrate these rookies into their organizations and get them up to speed with an NBA program.
Temper those first-year expectations. It sounds like the Cavs are trying to win some games this year and that probably won't involve a rookie playing a large role.
Didn't say they would trade the pick. I just don't expect our draft pick to play a big role this upcoming season.Every team is on the same boat. The Cavs will have a hard time trading the 5th pick for a veteran star for the reasons you mentioned. It'll be a blessing in disguise in the long run. I don't want to trade youth for washed up players.
Simmons is intriguing, but what would the Sixers want for him? Probably a king's ransom. Dude signed a 9 figure contract & he still doesn't have a jumpshot. That's concerning.
Right now for me, I like Okoro/Avdija for the spot we pick, although if Wiseman falls, I think he would be my pick. After that group I like Okongwu, then Vassell. Vassell is really intruiging but I think he's going to be better suited to play the 2, I'm not sure he moves the needle enough for me to want to take another guard. Okoro/Avdija have more positional versatility to my eyes, both are very competitive, both play with a lot of juice. I'd be happy with either one.
I do like Haliburton and Toppin, but I wouldn't draft either one if I were the Cavs. Haliburton kinda seems like tall Darius Garland to me, feels redundant. Toppin is talented, he's very interesting, I think he'll be able to score in the league, everything else I'm not sure of with him. Seems kind of stiff, I worry about his defense and rebounding, I really hope he goes top 4. I'm weirdly afraid to pass on him, but i also don't want to take him, if that makes any sense...