2021 Around MLB: Return of the Dead Ball Era

[CATS44]

The Padres interviewed Ozzie Guillan.

That would be an interesting hire...for reasons good and not so good.

One thing for sure....Ozzie would put a bigger national spotlight on the Padres.

 

[macbdog]

The Padres interviewed Ozzie Guillan.

That would be an interesting hire...for reasons good and not so good.

One thing for sure....Ozzie would put a bigger national spotlight on the Padres.

First day of spring training: walks around locker room doing the choke sign.

 

[CATS44]

I want to watch a game that Ozzie manages while Zimmer butchers base running...

Or Harold butchers the outfield...

Or any game with Ozzie managing Puig.

 

[MirORich]

Nothing groundbreaking beyond confirmation of a meeting and another meeting scheduled for Friday but hopefully this one gets done less contentiously then previous MLB/MLBPA agreements

 

[bob2the2nd]

Nothing groundbreaking beyond confirmation of a meeting and another meeting scheduled for Friday but hopefully this one gets done less contentiously then previous MLB/MLBPA agreements

honestly i dont care about contention, I care that MLB fixes its problem with not having a salary cap. To me the rest is noise, but there is no reason there should be a 200 million dollar spread between the highest salary team and the lowest salary team. Hell call it 180 if you want to say the Os are an extreme. Implement a soft cap at 150, then do some sort of punitive scale similar to the the NBA up to a hard cap of 175. On the other side do a soft floor at 85 million, and every dollar a team is below the soft floor they pay 50 cents. Hard floor of 60 million.

 

[jup]

Screw caps

 

[bob2the2nd]

Screw caps

First as a guy going bald, let me have my cover.

There is a reason every other major sports league in the US has a cap. There is just simply too much money in the big cities to not have a significant impact on the level of talent in each city. Baseball desperately needs one or else the small market teams will do nothing but continue to serve as feeder teams to the larger markets.

 

[CATS44]

There doesn't need to be a cap per se.

There needs to be a better revenue sharing system, where EVERYTHING goes into the pot...esp local broadcasting revenue.

 

[bob2the2nd]

There doesn't need to be a cap per se.

There needs to be a better revenue sharing system, where EVERYTHING goes into the pot...esp local broadcasting revenue.

why the hesitancy to do what every other major sports league has already done? The yankees spent 225 million this year on their team salary. 5 teams spent below 45 million.

Impliment revenue sharing, implement a cap and let small market franchises actually stand a god damn chance

 

[jup]

First as a guy going bald, let me have my cover.

Well played, my cap is off to you!!

 

[sportscoach]

I'd like a minimum and maximum cap to allow the small market teams to have a legit chance of keeping players long term and whatnot...

 

[jup]

I'd like a minimum and maximum cap to allow the small market teams to have a legit chance of keeping players long term and whatnot...

So few players stay with any team long term anymore that it has become an argument in search of an example.

Look at the Dodgers - maybe Kenley Jansen and Kershaw - other than that ....
Yankees -the longest tenured star type player (not Higashoika) is Gardner - the rest ... pretty short term
The Indians - Berto and JRam
Tampa - Kiermaier
Athletics - Matt Olsen

The point is, you go around the league and no team has "a bunch" of long term players that have been with them for forever. Big or small market. Yankees and Dodgers tend to import more of them, but that doesn't mean they are around all that long. They tend to get them towards the back end of their career so the years with the club isn't really that long especially with the way contracts are traded this day and age.

So when you actually look at the years with a team, keeping stars is not all that different. What is different is getting guys for a 5 or 6 year window. But keeping stars (as in homegrown) -not so much

 

[CATS44]

Difference between NFL/NBA and MLB players is longevity...and visionary leadership.

If your shelf life is 5 years, you are unlikely to be willing to spend 20% of it on strike and not getting paid. And even if they win, they can't make up the career losses.

Most baseball players can afford to sit a year....and end up making more overall.

And Marvin Miller was a genius.

Big difference between NFL/NBA and MLB owners is that the former doesn't have to fill 162 dates...and visionary leadership.

While the prototype for MLB owners is still Charles Comiskey, the NFL had multiple geniuses for the owners.

Pete Rozelle, Art Modell (as rightfully despised as he is in Cleveland), Lamar Hunt, the Mara family in NY, and Paul Brown understood that working towards a collective best interest for the owners would take the NFL to the pinnacle of sustained success...and leave the players with almost no leverage.

If, like the Maras of the NY Giants, the ownership of the Yankees and Dodgers agreed to full revenue sharing and a salary cap, it would happen. But most MLB owners don't want it. MLB owners work against each other.

 

[DCTribefan]

Padres make Bob Melvin next skipper

SAN DIEGO -- The Padres wanted a manager with experience, clout and a history of success. They got him. Bob Melvin signed a three-year deal to become San Diego's next manager, and he was introduced at a news conference at Petco Park on Monday.

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[DCTribefan]

Apologies if already posted.

Niebla good 'fit' as Padres pitching coach

SAN DIEGO -- The Padres are still in the process of narrowing down their managerial candidates, but they've come to a decision on their next pitching coach. Ruben Niebla, who spent 21 seasons with Cleveland, most recently as assistant pitching coach, has been officially hired as pitching coach...

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