2021 Browns Training Camp

[MirORich]

How was Marvin Wilson? Was a great UDFA signing, was hoping we’d keep him in some capacity.

Didn’t flash very much at all in 3 preseason games. Think he has to be waived and if not claimed, added to the practice squad.

 

[Out of the Rafters at the Q]

How was Marvin Wilson? Was a great UDFA signing, was hoping we’d keep him in some capacity.

I think we're gonna try and get him on the practice squad.

Dude looked like an incredible athlete, but didn't flash much in the trenches. Both he and Togiai were disappointing to my untrained eye. The only time Wilson popped was chasing down that Falcons RB after he bounced outside.

 

[browniebob]

I think we're gonna try and get him on the practice squad.

Dude looked like an incredible athlete, but didn't flash much in the trenches. Both he and Togiai were disappointing to my untrained eye. The only time Wilson popped was chasing down that Falcons RB after he bounced outside.

Togiai...

 

[bs80]

I think we're gonna try and get him on the practice squad.

Dude looked like an incredible athlete, but didn't flash much in the trenches. Both he and Togiai were disappointing to my untrained eye. The only time Wilson popped was chasing down that Falcons RB after he bounced outside.

Seeing as how we had competition signing him (highest ever guaranteed money for an UDFA if I recall correctly), could we possibly net a conditional 6th or 7th for him? Still tons of potential, especially for a team that can afford to give him the reps to expedite his development.

 

[col63onel]

Seeing as how we had competition signing him (highest ever guaranteed money for an UDFA if I recall correctly), could we possibly net a conditional 6th or 7th for him? Still tons of potential, especially for a team that can afford to give him the reps to expedite his development.

Well, every team had multiple shots to spend a draft pick on him and didn't. I don't know that not making the Browns makes anyone more likely to spend a draft pick on him.

 

[bs80]

Well, every team had multiple shots to spend a draft pick on him and didn't. I don't know that not making the Browns makes anyone more likely to spend a draft pick on him.

Quite possible that you're right. But for the same reason a team give up a future 6th for a current 7th on draft day, maybe we could get lucky. Just feels like a long shot that we'd be able to sneak him onto the PS.

 

[Out of the Rafters at the Q]

Quite possible that you're right. But for the same reason a team give up a future 6th for a current 7th on draft day, maybe we could get lucky. Just feels like a long shot that we'd be able to sneak him onto the PS.

That's sort of the system working correctly--right? If we have too many talented, better players ahead of him, and he has the chance to play elsewhere, he will.

Also, if you're a GM, why would you give up a pick for the guy you know that the Browns are going to make available to you for free?

Browns fans need to get used to this--we're going to see actual NFL players leave our team to play elsewhere. It'll start with cuts this year, but soon it will be free agents we can't afford to keep around. It means we have a good team. It's a good thing. Get used to it now.

 

[Lee]

That's sort of the system working correctly--right? If we have too many talented, better players ahead of him, and he has the chance to play elsewhere, he will.

Also, if you're a GM, why would you give up a pick for the guy you know that the Browns are going to make available to you for free?

Browns fans need to get used to this--we're going to see actual NFL players leave our team to play elsewhere. It'll start with cuts this year, but soon it will be free agents we can't afford to keep around. It means we have a good team. It's a good thing. Get used to it now.

Only reason to give up a late pick is jump other teams on the waiver wire and make sure he comes to your team. But i doubt Wilson is that guy, maybe one of our WR we dont sign might get us a 6th or 7th pick, but not a UFA rookie who cant make our squad.

 

[bs80]

That's sort of the system working correctly--right? If we have too many talented, better players ahead of him, and he has the chance to play elsewhere, he will.

Yup, completely agree.

Also, if you're a GM, why would you give up a pick for the guy you know that the Browns are going to make available to you for free?

I don't think it's uncommon at all for a team to be able to net a minor return for a player even if everyone knows will not be making the team. The Giants just got a conditional pick for their backup kicker. If a GM likes a player enough, he could send some minor draft compensation to seal the deal rather than risk another team swooping in and signing the player.

Browns fans need to get used to this--we're going to see actual NFL players leave our team to play elsewhere. It'll start with cuts this year, but soon it will be free agents we can't afford to keep around. It means we have a good team. It's a good thing. Get used to it now.

Don't we all know it. Forgive me if any of my thoughts are asinine -- I'm very much trying to wrap my head around this whole having a good roster thing

 

[Douglar]

How was Marvin Wilson? Was a great UDFA signing, was hoping we’d keep him in some capacity.

Defensive tackle can be a hard position for a rookie to learn--

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Grades and snap counts for every rookie who played in Week 2 of the 2021 NFL preseason, from New England Patriots' Mac Jones to Dallas Cowboys' Micah Parsons.

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Browns Rookies​

Player	PFF Grade	Off/Def Snaps
CB Greg Newsome II	70.7	26
CB Emmanuel Rugamba	68.8	21
Edge Romeo McKnight	66.6	26
HB Demetric Felton	60.8	16
LB Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah	48.6	15
DI Tommy Togiai	46.9	28
S Richard LeCounte	44.4	53
T James Hudson	31.9	58
DI Marvin Wilson	30.2	18

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CLEVELAND BROWNS (19) AT ATLANTA FALCONS (10)​

Browns Rookies​

Player	PFF Grade	Off/Def Snaps
S Richard LeCounte	81.7	21
CB Emmanuel Rugamba	74.7	24
T James Hudson	64.6	63
WR Anthony Schwartz	53.0	19
CB Greg Newsome II	51.5	17
DI Tommy Togiai	38.5	32
DI Marvin Wilson	38.4	23

 

[Vee-Rex]

I was hoping Curtis Weaver would show more during these games; the FO had to have been intrigued to shelf him for a year.

He looks very slow and clunky to me.

 

[sportscoach]

Who exactly is Rugamba? I have never Heard of him, but he played at Miami of Ohio it seems like...

 

[Jordan]

Defensive tackle can be a hard position for a rookie to learn--

NFL Preseason Week 2 Rookie Report: Grades, snaps, game takeaways and more | NFL News, Rankings and Statistics | PFF

Grades and snap counts for every rookie who played in Week 2 of the 2021 NFL preseason, from New England Patriots' Mac Jones to Dallas Cowboys' Micah Parsons.

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Browns Rookies​

Player	PFF Grade	Off/Def Snaps
CB Greg Newsome II	70.7	26
CB Emmanuel Rugamba	68.8	21
Edge Romeo McKnight	66.6	26
HB Demetric Felton	60.8	16
LB Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah	48.6	15
DI Tommy Togiai	46.9	28
S Richard LeCounte	44.4	53
T James Hudson	31.9	58
DI Marvin Wilson	30.2	18

NFL Preseason Week 3 Rookie Report: Grades, snaps, game takeaways and more | NFL News, Rankings and Statistics | PFF

Grades and snap counts for every rookie who played in Week 2 of the 2021 NFL preseason, from Jacksonville Jaguars' Trevor Lawrence to Dallas Cowboys' Micah Parsons.

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CLEVELAND BROWNS (19) AT ATLANTA FALCONS (10)​

Browns Rookies​

Player	PFF Grade	Off/Def Snaps
S Richard LeCounte	81.7	21
CB Emmanuel Rugamba	74.7	24
T James Hudson	64.6	63
WR Anthony Schwartz	53.0	19
CB Greg Newsome II	51.5	17
DI Tommy Togiai	38.5	32
DI Marvin Wilson	38.4	23

Yep, first round pick defensive tackles tend to be able to convert to the NFL easily. There is a steep, steep decline in success rate year-on-year after that.

 

[Randolphkeys]

With the depth the Browns currently have at DT as opposed to DE, I have to wonder if they'll utilize Malik Jackson some at DE to get guys like McDowell or Elliott more snaps at DT over Gustin/Jackson snaps at DE...

Malik Jackson played defensive end in a 3-4 while in Denver. He was a little younger and more spry back then, but when he was played end last night I figured the coaches wanted to see if he can still handle it.

 

[Lee]

Malik Jackson played defensive end in a 3-4 while in Denver. He was a little younger and more spry back then, but when he was played end last night I figured the coaches wanted to see if he can still handle it.

What are the chances of 2 Malik's making an NFL team at the same position?