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2021 Browns Training Camp

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Wait, Delpit is already out for week 1?
 
Can see that redshirt year coming for Schwartz a mile away.

Get ready, and if the team needs him later in the season because of injury, he’ll get a chance.

Just too many good players in front of him taking up reps in an offense that has 3 capable pass catchers at tight end.


Hope he can sneak on the field and get some live action this week.
 

Anyone got insider and can post the Browns-related stuff?
 

Baker Mayfield, QB, Cleveland Browns



Current status: The Browns have not been aggressive -- at least not yet -- with re-signing Mayfield, who has made clear he cares very little about negotiations. That's not necessarily a concern, though. The Browns have looked to extend several core players, starting with running back Nick Chubb last month. They've begun discussions with cornerback Denzel Ward, though a deal is considered a long shot as of now.

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As I'm hearing, there's a strong chance Mayfield enters this season without a deal, but the Browns do believe Mayfield -- whose fifth-year option for 2022 was picked up -- can be their long-term answer at quarterback, and Mayfield knows that. So eventually, the team must decide whether that faith is strong enough to acknowledge a QB market that balloons by the month.

Mayfield isn't expected to reach Josh Allen's six-year, $258 million extension signed earlier this month, so maybe that alleviates pressure on both sides. But Allen became the third quarterback to reach the $40 million annual plateau and the fifth at $35 million or above. That range is now a starting point for any young quarterback who can make a case as a top-15 passer.

So since Mayfield's deal is the most complicated Cleveland faces, the Browns seem to be gauging the market of other players first, getting a clear picture of their salary cap before coming over the top with the quarterback. Mayfield's reps have a good working relationship with the Browns, so talks will indeed reignite.

Verdict: I think this one plays out a little longer than expected, with the possibility of an in-season deal or Mayfield shutting talks down himself. Mayfield's home run leverage is in 2022. If he plays really well and the Browns have more playoff success, his outlook is really strong. He would be one year from free agency, and the Browns would have to elevate him at that point. Betting on himself -- something Mayfield seems to embrace -- is a good play.

The quarterback market has reached a boiling point, with Russell Wilson falling to fifth in quarterback pay 28 months after a landmark four-year, $140 million deal. Mayfield likely needs to be, at the least, halfway between Wilson and Allen in compensation, and it's uncertain whether Cleveland is willing to get there.

But Waters has Mayfield coming in strong with his proposal: five years with $206 million in new cash, $152.6 million over the next three years, a $30 million signing bonus and $143 million total guaranteed. Big option bonuses over the first two years are necessary to get this payout high for cap purposes, Waters said.

That puts him below Allen but ahead of Dak Prescott, who, interestingly enough, is a comp that several NFL evaluators make for Mayfield's ceiling as a player. The guarantees would be in line with edge rusher Myles Garrett, who got a reported $100 million in total guarantees from Cleveland last summer as part of his $125 million extension over five years.

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Aftermath: I can't overstate the importance of this deal, a litmus test for how much teams will pay for good quarterbacks just outside of the top tier. Mayfield could become great with another year, but evaluators don't see him as a top-10 guy just yet. So the Browns' team-building method comes into focus.


The outlandish payouts have some teams wondering if drafting first-round passers every three or four years is an easier path, a revolving door of cheap rookie deals at the game's most important position to free up money for other positions. That's easier said than done, and an underplayed angle is how the Browns would manage the storyline of not doing a deal. They are an ascending team with nothing but good vibes, and extending Mayfield reinforces that the franchise is all in on this group. Not doing it plants a seed of doubt.
 
will finally be able to tune into a live game with my work schedule flipping to days. Excited about watching LeCounte. He may be called upon out of necessity with Delpit looking so unreliable at this point.
 
Can see that redshirt year coming for Schwartz a mile away.

Get ready, and if the team needs him later in the season because of injury, he’ll get a chance.

Just too many good players in front of him taking up reps in an offense that has 3 capable pass catchers at tight end.


Hope he can sneak on the field and get some live action this week.

If healthy, Schwartz could be huge on special teams...gunner, return, ect.

I dont think he gets in over 3 or 4 guys, maybe isnt the gadget player Felton is at this point, but special teams he could be a difference maker with that crazy speed.
 
If healthy, Schwartz could be huge on special teams...gunner, return, ect.

I dont think he gets in over 3 or 4 guys, maybe isnt the gadget player Felton is at this point, but special teams he could be a difference maker with that crazy speed.

I think that’s a fair assessment of how he’ll provide value this year, but there are other guys who have stepped up and locked down those spots already, IMO.

Priefer mentioned Hodge as the standout, also DEJ.
 
I think that’s a fair assessment of how he’ll provide value this year, but there are other guys who have stepped up and locked down those spots already, IMO.

Priefer mentioned Hodge as the standout, also DEJ.
I’d also add that both Hodge and DEJ are good backups. I think special teams are a nice value-add, but I feel totally comfortable if an injury forces one of these two to play major snaps.
 
Grandpa Malcolm can't wait to get his dentures into that steak!
 

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