2021 Minor League Thread

[Tondo]

What do we think Gabriel Arias ceiling ND floor are?

Floor: Amed Rosario what he is now

Ceiling: What scouts thought Amed Rosario would become

 

[bigfoot5415]

Floor: Amed Rosario what he is now

Ceiling: What scouts thought Amed Rosario would become

For the uneducated like myself, that would be....?

I ask bc his first bowman chrome is now out and its fairly cheap.

 

[AZ_]

For the uneducated like myself, that would be....?

I ask bc his first bowman chrome is now out and its fairly cheap.

Buy low.

The swing looks like it can play, I don’t know if that’s at SS long term, which hurts the value some.

But he can hit, IMO.

 

[CalBuckeyeRob]

For the uneducated like myself, that would be....?

I ask bc his first bowman chrome is now out and its fairly cheap.

I have a ton of Mark Lewis and Tim Costo rookie cards if you are interested.

 

[bigfoot5415]

I have a ton of Mark Lewis and Tim Costo rookie cards if you are interested.

I turned Kevin Porter Jr into a free car. Maybe I can turn Mark Lewis into a free meal & car wash.

 

[BMAN]

For the uneducated like myself, that would be....?

I ask bc his first bowman chrome is now out and its fairly cheap.

2019 Bowman Chrome 1st Owen Miller RC Rookie Autograph Auto PADRES | eBay

Lot # G992.

www.ebay.com

Is this what you’re talking about?

 

[MadThinker88]

Roster news via Indians Prospective Twitter (w/ some edits by MT88)
5/18/21
Lake County Captains transactions
(C) Bryan Lavastida placed on the 7-day IL (Left Wrist Strain)
(C) Joe Donovan promoted from extended spring training
The 22yr old Donovan will be making his pro-debut w/ the Captains.
He was signed as a undrafted free agent on 6/17/20 out of the University of Michigan.

 

[Criznit]

Roster news via Indians Prospective Twitter (w/ some edits by MT88)
5/18/21
Lake County Captains transactions
(C) Bryan Lavastida placed on the 7-day IL (Left Wrist Strain)
(C) Joe Donovan promoted from extended spring training
The 22yr old Donovan will be making his pro-debut w/ the Captains.
He was signed as a undrafted free agent on 6/17/20 out of the University of Michigan.

Base on his college stats, I can see why he was a free agent...

Joe Donovan Amateur, College & Minor Leagues Statistics | Baseball-Reference.com

Joe Donovan Amateur, College & Minor Leagues Statistics including batting, fielding, prospect rankings and more on Baseball-Reference.com

www.baseball-reference.com

 

[AZ_]

Laurila: Changing direction, Cleveland has a great reputation when it comes to developing pitchers. Did you know that before the team drafted you?


Burns: “I didn’t know that. But two days after I got drafted, Tim Hudson — he was my pitching coach at Auburn — was like, ‘Man, you know what’s so cool? You just went into one of the best farm systems for pitching development.’ I said, ‘Are you serious?’ He said, ‘Yeah, do your research.’

“Man, it’s crazy what they’re doing here. I mean, I had my share in instructs, and then in the pitching camp we had in December, in Arizona. Then spring training. Just how much they care about the pitchers, how much they want us to know about the data, the people they’ve hired who know so much about pitching… I mean, I’m really in a good spot. I went from Auburn, where I was around one the best pitching coaches in college baseball, to an organization that really cares about pitching. I’ve been blessed to be around great pitching minds.”

 

[mopete12]

I really hope the “slutter” catches on

 

[BimboColesHair]

He may be gone, but Trevor Bauer forever changed the way the Indians handle developing their pitchers.

 

[BimboColesHair]

Already mentioned Gaddis and Logan Allen, so everyone of note I saw besides them.

Lake County Pitchers

Tanner Burns - prototype in the organization for starting pitching to a T. Throws 4 pitches and throws them whenever he wants. Sound, athletic mechanics. Fastball sat 92-93, gets a lot of swing and misses with it because he locates it well. Throws a hard slider (the aforementioned slutter) up in the count, down in the count, whenever he wants and it has good late bite on it. Good curveball that falls off the table (he needs to tunnel it better IMO). Decent change up as a wrinkle when he sees guys for a 2nd or 3rd time. He's just solid everywhere, not outstanding with one thing. Exact way you can describe Bieber, Plesac, Civale, etc. as minor leaguers. He'll end the year in Akron.

Mason Hickman - a lot to work with with Hickman. Experienced college arm with typical traits looked for right now, but his size points to a higher ceiling coming. Right now sits 89-91, smooth repeatable mechanics which is great for a tall guy. He generates a ridiculous amount of drop on his fastball due to his frame and over the top throwing motion, which you don't really see in baseball with everyone worrying about spin rate and trying to "rise" their 4-seemers. Pairs that up with a 12-6 curve that works off of it. He also throws a slider as a wrinkle, but it's just that at this point. If they are able to strengthen him up a bit and optimize his mechanics and add 2-4 MPH, like they have with Bieber, Plesac, etc., and he keeps the vertical movement on his fastball then he becomes a big time prospect to watch.

Ray Burgos - often forgotten about from the 2016 draft, it was nice to see him live in game action post-injury finally. He was on a path to fly through the lower levels prior to him hurting his triceps in his throwing arm. He's smooth and low effort when he pitches, but because of his size is able to sit 92-93 with good life. His arm slot allows him to play a sweeping slider off of his fastball and he has the makings of an above average change-up, which is key for lefty starters to have nowadays IMO. He just needs to stay healthy, cause he is very talented. Guessing they will nurse him through this season and take it slow.

Relievers - there's just a crop of solid, but not spectacular from a prospect standpoint, relievers in Lake County right now. Kellen Rholl is a wrinkle the Indians target nowadays with a funky near side-arm lefty delivery but doesn't have big stuff. Kevin Kelly was solid and has multi-innings reliever potential if his swing and miss sticks. Tim Herrin is an intriguing lefty if he is able to dial his stuff in, mid-90s guy with a nasty slider that can K a ton of hitters. Nate Ocker hasn't shown what he showed in 2019 yet (velo is down), but some guys may take some time to get back to where they were, if they are even able to get to that point.

Said before the season started in this thread that this team is going to strike a lot of batters out. They're currently 2nd in their league in Ks as a staff, striking out 141 batters in 114 IP. This staff currently owns the second best ERA in the league at 2.84 as well. Just a solid pitching staff, but the highlights of the group are the 2020 draftees.

 

[AZ_]

Xzavion Curry with another gem last night.

 

[Wham with the Right Hand]

He may be gone, but Trevor Bauer forever changed the way the Indians handle developing their pitchers.

I think there's an argument to be made that the Bauer trade was the best deal the Indians have made in this generation based mainly on the ripple effect of how they use innovative, modern techniques and science to develop young pitchers.

His last 4.5 years he was 61-44, which is very good, but when you add in the secondary effect on guys like Clevinger they got a lot more than what he did with the ball in his hand. The interesting thing is that one reason the Diamondbacks traded him was because he insisted on following his own regimen and wouldn't go along with the conventional wisdom. The Indians were willing to be open minded to his ideas.

All this for the last year of Shin-Soo Choo's contract.

The biggest disappointment with Bauer was he went 0-2 with a 5.40 ERA in the 2016 World Series which we lost 4-3. In game 5 he gave up 3 runs in 4 innings in a 3-2 loss.

 

[Wham with the Right Hand]

Xzavion Curry with another gem last night.

Eight of the 11 K's were against left-handed hitters. Nice! And no walks, either.