2022 NBA Draft Safari

[Muffinalt]

I believe in a guy like Dieng more than a guy like Daniels shooting wise. At least Dieng had a legitimate period at the end of the year where he looked like a competent and capable shooter after a dismal first half of the year. The numbers ended up ugly but I saw a big correction in form and consistency. Daniels was just pretty consistently….bad with the jumper but was more consistently productive overall

Actually according to Mike Schmitz, he shot 45% on threes for his last 10 games. His G-league season was only 14 games, so not a big sample size, but what if that split the real him now.

IWD and a few others also pointed to his form looking good, which is a big deal if we are trying to read between the lines of small sample sizes.

 

[InBoobieWeTrust]

Actually according to Mike Schmitz, he shot 45% on threes for his last 10 games. His G-league season was only 14 games, so not a big sample size, but what if that split the real him now.

IWD and a few others also pointed to his form looking good, which is a big deal if we are trying to read between the lines of small sample sizes.

I guess I take my post back then. I guess both guys ended the year shooting the hell out of the ball. I was just going on memory which obviously is getting worse the older I get.

 

[I'mWithDan]

Kind of surprised to see some of the reaction on TyTy.

Think he is a great fit next to Garland.

Tough guy, can defend the better of the two guards to hide Garland.

High upside secondary creator. Can play on or off ball.

Can swing to lead guard when Garland goes to the bench.

I would be ecstatic for any one of Eason, Daniels or TyTy.

Unfortunately I think all 3 will be gone at 14.

 

[Muffinalt]

I guess I take my post back then. I guess both guys ended the year shooting the hell out of the ball. I was just going on memory which obviously is getting worse the older I get.

Actually... get this. Tari Eason shot 27% on threes for his first 16 games, but on the remaining 17 it skyrocketed to 43%. So now which one is the real indicative?

Obviously it's an interesting exercise, and face value percentages, especially in such small sample sizes don't tell even close to the whole story. We need to see 3PA, FT%, previous seasons, film on the motion.

Between Tari, Daniels and Dieng, it's going to be an interesting case study down the line. Three guys the majority of us here like, who is going to be the one to uphold their improvements?

I kind of trust the Cavs luckily. If they say the guy is fixable and has potential, I will fully believe it. Even with Okoro they're doing nice improvements.

 

[Muffinalt]

Kind of surprised to see some of the reaction on TyTy.

Think he is a great fit next to Garland.

Tough guy, can defend the better of the two guards to hide Garland.

High upside secondary creator. Can play on or off ball.

Can swing to lead guard when Garland goes to the bench.

I would be ecstatic for any one of Eason, Daniels or TyTy.

Unfortunately I think all 3 will be gone it 14.

Absolutely love his offensive fit, but is he a good defender? Genuinely asking.

From the videos, he seems to get lost quite a bit off the ball, and his PnR defense is being critiqued as well. His size is nice, 6'3 with 6'9 wingspan is what George Hill like?

He should improve a lot if next to Garland, just like we want Sexton to do the same if either of them would be the long term starting 2 guard.

 

[Cavatt]

I guess I take my post back then. I guess both guys ended the year shooting the hell out of the ball. I was just going on memory which obviously is getting worse the older I get.

People are dying to find out how tall Daniels is. If he is like 6'7" or even 8 he's gonna shoot up.

I think you trust the ft% here when he has a rollercoaster percentage. Also 3 attempts a game is really pretty good. I think a guy taking that many attempts thinks he can hit them.

I think the lineup versatility he could provide could unlock this team.

There are some high BBIQ guys on the cavs already and he would fit right in.

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[MirORich]

Man if we draft somebody named “TyTy” I’m gonna lose it….

Come on now, if we can do Bimbo, Bingo, Sasha, Campy, Foots, Smush, Luscious, Dick, Tree, and Rod then not only can we handle a TyTy, we were made for TyTy

 

[Mcreek]

Latest mock has Johnny Davis dropping to Cavz at #14

Round 1 - Pick 14
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/teams/CLE/cleveland-cavaliers/
Johnny Davis SF
WISCONSIN • SOPH • 6'5" / 194 LBS

PROJECTED TEAM​ Cleveland

PROSPECT RNK​ 10th

POSITION RNK​ 2nd

PPG​ 19.7

RPG​ 8.2

APG​ 2.1

3P%​ 30.6%

This would be a bigger slip than expected for Davis, one of college basketball's true breakout stars this past season. He's arguably the most polished prospect from the guard spot whose three-level scoring and defensive versatility could easily thrust him into a big role upon arrival in the NBA.

 

[BiGZD]

Good luck!

 

[Smooth]

How long before Dieng shuts down workouts because of a promise at 12 by OKC?

 

[Henry Tuttle]

I was just gonna say…I feel like the only way Dieng would get past OKC is if they jumped up, but I also would have been pissed if they had 2 top 4 picks soooo

 

[Henry Tuttle]

It’s also a bit unfortunate that CHA knows we won’t take a big man..they can take a wing in front of us knowing their big of choice will still be there at 15

 

[MirORich]

It’s also a bit unfortunate that CHA knows we won’t take a big man..they can take a wing in front of us knowing their big of choice will still be there at 15

There's still the threat of losing "their guy" by being cute. If after pick 12 the number one guy one their board is a big, they won't mess around waiting until 15 because they can't guarantee that the Cavs pick at 14.

Now that's hypothetical, I of course have no idea what CHA board will look like and if the guy they want most at 13 and 15 is a big.

 

[InBoobieWeTrust]

Actually... get this. Tari Eason shot 27% on threes for his first 16 games, but on the remaining 17 it skyrocketed to 43%. So now which one is the real indicative?

Obviously it's an interesting exercise, and face value percentages, especially in such small sample sizes don't tell even close to the whole story. We need to see 3PA, FT%, previous seasons, film on the motion.

Between Tari, Daniels and Dieng, it's going to be an interesting case study down the line. Three guys the majority of us here like, who is going to be the one to uphold their improvements?

I kind of trust the Cavs luckily. If they say the guy is fixable and has potential, I will fully believe it. Even with Okoro they're doing nice improvements.

I think you trust Easons overall shooting profile more than the others. Just from an analytics perspective.

But obviously the Cavs will have shooting coaches breaking down their form film and workouts. And ultimately that will carry the day more than anything. Overall who does the org believe has the best shot profile? Then again, if shooting is the top target then Agbaji is certainly the dude you may want there…but if they are looking for more well rounded overall potential and have a preordained physica/athletic profile requirement then Agbaji maybe doesn’t even make the board.

Will be a fascinating draft for sure. The Cavs have an opportunity to solidify their long term contention with the right pick. The opportunity to add to this core at 14 is not something that is always possible. I know injuries have question marks about him now and his talent profile only fell to 14 because of those red flags but Denver got Porter Jr with the 14th pick. Stars and elite role players are found in this range year after year. We have to make the most of this opportunity.

 

[Henry Tuttle]

I don’t know his game all that well, but I would take the odds on Jovic being the pick. I remember a story a couple years ago about Koby and the Cavs being really high on him. He might be an OK fit too — I think he’s similar to Dieng offensively, just not sure if he’s athletic enough to play the wing in the NBA.