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2022 Season - Week #2 - Jets @ Browns - 9/18 1pm CBS

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The Wizard of Moz said:
And several times the season before. Most notably to me the Dallas game where we led by 27 and gave up 24 in the 4th quarter to make it a 3 point game before OBJ bailed us out

I'm tired of it
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And didn't the Mason Rudolph-led Steelers recover an onside kick as well that year?
 
This thread, btw, is helping me get over this loss. Thank you all.
 
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CBBI said:
Grant Delpit being absolutely horrendous with seemingly no awareness is not something I had on my bingo card coming into this season.
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They should try him at LB if they insist on playing him. He's not bad against the run. But he is absolutely awful in coverage.
 
CBBI said:

"Not everyone was playing the same play call" is just so brutal.
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Here's my problem with this...

Even if Delpit is in the exact right spot, the decision conceptually to have Ward give a guy a free release down the sidelines to be 1 on 1 with a fucking safety is fucking trash.

If your best coverage man is being schemed to defend for 10 yards and then release guys to second level defenders, that's a bad scheme.

Because ultimately what's the best case there for Ward? He's now available to help make a tackle on JOK's man? It's garbage.
 
I don’t think the “it doesn’t make sense to fire joe woods now” posters are taking into consideration the mental aspect of a loss like this and near blown game like last week on the morale of the defense.

I don’t give a flying fuck if it’s the intern calling the same defensive game plan, the front office needs to make it clear to the players, fan base, and the rest of the coaching staff that repeated failure and ineptitude is not going to cut it.

Accountability and consequences… same thing I try to teach my kids. Keeping Woods after that shit show undermines the entire idea.

Joe woods can

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CBBI said:
Here's my only two hang ups about firing Woods (who clearly does deserve to be fired)...

1. Minus the inexplicable coverage busts, this is the exact defensive scheme Stefanski wants to run. Rarely blitz. Constantly sit in zone. Keep everything in front and force a team to execute 8, 10, 12 play drives every time to get points. If this wasn't what Stefanski wanted his defense to be, he wouldn't have hired Woods in the first place.

2, You're not replacing Woods with an unemployed coach and installing a whole new system on the fly. So you'd be replacing him with someone internal like Howard, Bloom or Tarver. And that person would be someone who has only been teaching these guys the same schemes and concepts that Woods and Stefanski want these defenders to execute anyway. So the firing would be largely ceremonial.

If you were going to make a move, it should have been done in the offseason. At this point it's probably too late for it to actually be meaningful.
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Agree with #1.

However, #2 could still produce drastically different results. The scheme itself does not mean the situational play-calling can't be better. This defense still has some of the same problems that it had in 2020.

It is mind-boggling how predictable it can be. He tried to zone blitz a few times and it was obvious when it was going to happen. Then after a few first downs he reverted back to soft zone and I knew exactly when it was happening. If I knew, I'm guessing LaFleur + Flacco knew.

If I had the choice - right now I'd fire him. Don't need to install a new system in order to get Ward in man coverage a little bit more - get some people who understand situational football better and offer SOME variety to the defense.
 
The sent 2 deep on the play — I don’t think you’re going to be able to double both guys. But I would hope for at least 1 defender on each…
 
CBBI said:
Here's my problem with this...

Even if Delpit is in the exact right spot, the decision conceptually to have Ward give a guy a free release down the sidelines to be 1 on 1 with a fucking safety is fucking trash.

If your best coverage man is being schemed to defend for 10 yards and then release guys to second level defenders, that's a bad scheme.

Because ultimately what's the best case there for Ward? He's now available to help make a tackle on JOK's man? It's garbage.
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Why do people keep thinking Delpit should be on the outside deep man?

Isn't this clearly Quarters coverage? Isn't that fourth deep zone clearly Denzel Ward's responsibility?

Ward saw Davis run by him towards the sidelines. My guess is he thought it was an out route, so he sat down underneath trying to bait an interception.

Except that's the stupidest thing you could do in quarters. With nobody behind you, it's a TD--especially with Delpit carrying inside leverage on the deep post.
 
CBBI said:

"Not everyone was playing the same play call" is just so brutal.
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Not everyone was playing the same play call sort of puts it on one or more players rather than the coach. Whatever he called it was only one play call. Somebody, or somebodies, screwed up. Maybe the play calls are too complicated or the terminology is too easy to misunderstand, but when a coach calls defense "X" and one or more defensive backs plays defense "Y" it's not the coach's fault.
 
Deezus said:
You mean like this game against Joe Fucko?
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Trubisky is worse.

He can't see the field.

Steelers defense Gabe him 5 TOs against the Bengals last week and it took him an OT to hit 20 points.

He hasn't made a throw down field yet.
 
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