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2023 Guardians Spring Training Thread

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We are now at the point in ST where performance begins to matter. Whatever everybody has been working on begins to take a back seat to putting it into successful practice.

So far, Arias, Brennan, Naylor, Bieber, and Gaddis have had outstanding camps. Straw has looked very good.

TMac and Plesac have looked good in their most recent outings. Gaddis has been outstanding.

Bell, Zunino, and Oscar have not looked good at all, but at least Oscar is making contact.

But none of this matters as much as what they do as the ST winds down.
 
DCTribefan said:
Nah, we were just trying to force him to shampoo his hair.
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Gaddis without the facial hair and mullet:
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We are now at the point in ST where performance begins to matter. Whatever everybody has been working on begins to take a back seat to putting it into successful practice.

So far, Arias, Brennan, Naylor, Bieber, and Gaddis have had outstanding camps. Straw has looked very good.

TMac and Plesac have looked good in their most recent outings. Gaddis has been outstanding.

Bell, Zunino, and Oscar have not looked good at all, but at least Oscar is making contact.

But none of this matters as much as what they do as the ST winds down.
CDAV45 said:
Here all along I thought Amed was our SS because they had to take him to unload Lindor's contract and to get Gimenez. Well.....that and he's actually worse defensively at 2B so our best SS's are playing 2B and utility. Silly me.

Actually Arcia(104 OPS+) is Rosario(106 OPS+) and most probably see him as the better defensive option so........

Was Lindor's "acre of performance" not worth more than the promise in return?

Is Amed the SS for this team in 23? I didn't think the season had started yet.

I wonder if Giardi's no range infielders could smash a baseball or were they just average players like Amed? Seems very "un-Yankee" to me.

So clearly Brennan can "CATCH THE BALL" and hit much better than Straw so are you for replacing Straw with Brennan or are you just talking out of your ass again?
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Maybe.

But lets compare notes a bit.

Who is playing SS for this team?

One of us chose Amed. One has insisted for multiple years that Amed wouldn't even be on the team.

Who is playing CF on this team?

One of us sees Straw as a major plus, whatever he hits. One has insisted that Straw at best is a 4th OF.

Who is playing 2B on this team, at an All Star level?

One of us has been insisting since the Lindor trade that Gimenez was gonna be a core piece of this team. One has promoted Arias as better, esp with a bat.

One of us suggested over a year ago that Arias should be groomed to be a super utility guy. One of us insists that he should be starting over either Amed or Gimenez.

(See your post from Mar 31st, 2022)

One of us has scoreboard. One has...uh...gas.
 
One of us said that we should trade away a bunch of our prospects because "the future was now" for not even just one but two RH corner OF rather than let the kids play
 
Here it is - about as close to your regular lineup I have seen so far.... We should just start referring to the 8-hole as "catcher" - name is not important..

 
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KluberSociety said:
One of us said that we should trade away a bunch of our prospects because "the future was now" for not even just one but two RH corner OF rather than let the kids play
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Thats true.

And one of those prospects was traded anyway...for an A+ 2B prospect. Another is now down with his second shoulder injury in less than a year. Another is gonna be a utility man. And there is no room anywhere for two others. (Freeman and Palacios.)

I'd much prefer Reynolds.

Or Murphy over Zunino.
 
The Athletic has a column where they select a "bounce back" candidate for each team. For the White Sox it's two-thirds of their roster, but they settled on reliever Joe Kelly. For the Guardians it's Mike Zunino, which was an easy pick IMO.

Two years ago, Zunino was an All-Star who posted an .860 OPS and smashed 33 home runs (in only 333 at-bats; that HR/AB rate matches late-’90s Sammy Sosa, for those with an affinity for cherry-picked stats). That performance, paired with his defensive chops, placed him at 4.5 fWAR and in 10th place on one voter’s MVP ballot. Last season, Zunino was dreadful at the plate (43 wRC+) in 36 games before undergoing thoracic outlet surgery. So, can he split the difference in 2023 now that he’s healthy? That would equate to a .680 OPS, which is, coincidentally, his career figure, and would represent a substantial upgrade over the (lack of) production Cleveland received from its catching tandem in 2022. — Zack Meisel
 
CDAV45 said:
There are a few that can better than match what he does and he hasn't been moved because nobody wants him at the price he's being paid. Pretty much the same reason he hasn't been and probably won't be offered an extension. I understand that you like him, but he won't be here much longer.

There are different reasons they won 92 games last season, but a huge part of it was not Amed Rosario. He didn't hurt them for sure, but he's not what you're portraying him to be. I wish he was, but he's not.
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He will be here until the season ends...then he will get paid. He's most likely gonna get a bunch of All Star votes as well.
 
Wham with the Right Hand said:
The Athletic has a column where they select a "bounce back" candidate for each team. For the White Sox it's two-thirds of their roster, but they settled on reliever Joe Kelly. For the Guardians it's Mike Zunino, which was an easy pick IMO.

Two years ago, Zunino was an All-Star who posted an .860 OPS and smashed 33 home runs (in only 333 at-bats; that HR/AB rate matches late-’90s Sammy Sosa, for those with an affinity for cherry-picked stats). That performance, paired with his defensive chops, placed him at 4.5 fWAR and in 10th place on one voter’s MVP ballot. Last season, Zunino was dreadful at the plate (43 wRC+) in 36 games before undergoing thoracic outlet surgery. So, can he split the difference in 2023 now that he’s healthy? That would equate to a .680 OPS, which is, coincidentally, his career figure, and would represent a substantial upgrade over the (lack of) production Cleveland received from its catching tandem in 2022. — Zack Meisel
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I don't know why, but I have a really bad feeling on both Zanino and Bell. I think Bell should be the 7 hole hitter until he proves his days in San Diego were flukish. Iwould keep it Naylor, Giminez and Oscar in the 4, 5, 6. I hope I'm wrong on both
 
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