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24 Off-Season GM Thread

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sportscoach said:
Carlson is coming off of ankle surgery and hasn't done anything in his last 600 ABs... We aren't trading much for him lol
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ankle, wrist, oblique and one other injury during that 600 AB.. Half the information ???? How does he hit against LHP's.. the point of the discussion???


buh-gawk <=== w.i.s...
 
Gson said:
ankle, wrist, oblique and one other injury during that 600 AB.. Half the information ???? How does he hit against LHP's.. the point of the discussion???


buh-gawk <=== w.i.s...
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You want to give up prospects for a guy we have no clue how his health will be...

Laureano is already under team control and has solid career numbers vs lefties and is a stronger defender than Carlson in the OF...

Trading for Carlson makes no sense in my mind, so I am not willing to do it...
 
Gson said:
A type of a deal..

This is only partially true... in most Guardian deals.. It is the exception that a "low level minor leaguer" isn't included in a deal, usually a never heard of pitcher.. Young Rayner Arias as the "sweetener" for a target such as "bounce back" candidate Mitch Haniger could become the Giants offer to the Guardians for what the Giants need: a young controllable middle infielder.. Haniger is a RHH'ing OF that hits much better against LHP's (typically 50 - 60 points higher). The Giants middle infield needs could be met from the Guardians from one of three or four guys... while the Guardians would be tasked with taking on the 2 years & $ 32 MM remaining on his contract. The SF Giants can "buy down" this remaining liability with cash or with the above mentioned sweetener, a low level minor leaguer.. that shows promise. Both teams win.. The Guardians some now.. and, possibly, much more later.. The SF Giant win now & it's not like they don't have "other" OF candidates to replace the weirdly oft injured Haniger..

How many more weird injuries can Haniger have? hence.. why he would be a bounce back..
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In my original post I stated that including a prospect like Yanier Arias in a deal would be a good thing. My point in the post you responded to was that I don't believe the Guardians will deal a good ML ready MIFer for low level prospects. I guess that could be inaccurate if they have no needs to fill.

I wouldn't be upset if they acquired Haniger and I agree that he is a good bounceback candidate and I like your deal. That's the type of deal I envision them making if a low level prospect is included.
 
sportscoach said:
You want to give up prospects for a guy we have no clue how his health will be... UNTRUE.. we know his health is going to be 100 % by Spring Training

Laureano is already under team control and has solid career numbers vs lefties and is a stronger defender than Carlson in the OF...

Trading for Carlson makes no sense in my mind, so I am not willing to do it...
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Laureano is one of three OF'er.. two are needed.. or at least ONE MORE..

You're unwilling.. CHECK..

-you were unwilling to trade Bieber before the start of the season
-you were unwilling to trade Gimenez before the start of the season
-you were unwilling to trade AMED before the start of the season
-you were unwilling to trade for Riley before the start of last season
-you were willing to trade for Murphy before the start of last season

How is that record looking????
 
CDAV45 said:
In my original post I stated that including a prospect like Yanier Arias in a deal would be a good thing. My point in the post you responded to was that I don't believe the Guardians will deal a good ML ready MIFer for low level prospects. I guess that could be inaccurate if they have no needs to fill.

I wouldn't be upset if they acquired Haniger and I agree that he is a good bounceback candidate and I like your deal. That's the type of deal I envision them making if a low level prospect is included.
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It's Rayner.. but, a pick at a nit..

They do have needs to fill..
 
Gson said:
Laureano is one of three OF'er.. two are needed.. or at least ONE MORE..

You're unwilling.. CHECK..

-you were unwilling to trade Bieber before the start of the season
-you were unwilling to trade Gimenez before the start of the season
-you were unwilling to trade AMED before the start of the season
-you were unwilling to trade for Riley before the start of last season
-you were willing to trade for Murphy before the start of last season

How is that record looking????
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You are incorrect about 4 of those points... stop being a numbskull please... (I'm being nice since I am not in the best of moods and you are honestly being really dumb and not saying truths)

Antonetti said he wasn't going to trade Bieber... I had lot of Bieber deals up... I figured he would be with the Dodgers if Cleveland was willing to trade him...

Gimenez just signed an extension, he wasn't available PERIOD!

I wasn't against Rosario traded, but I knew he was WORTHLESS in a deal...

I never was against Riley, but at that time, I wasn't willing to spend a lot on him since he didn't prove anything the season before...

I wanted Murphy... The A's refused to take an offer Cleveland could even think about...
 
There are NUMEROUS statements from you saying Amed would be in cleveland for the 2023 season..

You don't know what the Guardians offered or if they made an offer for Murphy.. quit bullshitting..
 
Gson said:
There are NUMEROUS statements from you saying Amed would be in cleveland for the 2023 season..

You don't know what the Guardians offered or if they made an offer for Murphy.. quit bullshitting..
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Dude, haven't you been reading... I said I wanted to trade Amed but I put it at a 99.9% chance in my mind that we wouldn't before the season started...

Also someone also stated who Oakland wanted.... But you don't understand how to actually look at all posts...
 
Gson said:
There are NUMEROUS statements from you saying Amed would be in cleveland for the 2023 season..

You don't know what the Guardians offered or if they made an offer for Murphy.. quit bullshitting..
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The request the A's made from Cleveland is well-documented.

It was unreasonable. It appears the A's didn't want him in the American League... or they had some players they scouted previously in Atlanta (Olson trade) that they became obsessed with.

If you traded for Murphy, you'd have been a worse team in 2023 and worse in the future.
 
Interesting HS / Prep listing of prospects..

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Why bring back an old fart in Bonds when you can just introduce Straw to steroids? No one would ever expect it....
 
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