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Who Was the Greatest Wrestler of the 1985-1995 Era?

  • The Nature Boy Ric Flair

    Votes: 3 9.1%
  • Hulk Hogan

    Votes: 11 33.3%
  • The Ultimate Warrior

    Votes: 1 3.0%
  • Sting

    Votes: 1 3.0%
  • The Undertaker

    Votes: 2 6.1%
  • The Macho Man Randy Savage

    Votes: 7 21.2%
  • Barry Windham

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • The Hitman Bret Hart

    Votes: 4 12.1%
  • Mr. Perfect Curt Hennig

    Votes: 1 3.0%
  • The Heart Break Bottom Shawn Michaels

    Votes: 3 9.1%

  • Total voters
    33
Yeah, in Bret Hart and Ted DiBiase's autobiographies, they make it clear that Andre would make it known if he didn't like you, or if someone needed to be taken down a peg.

Simply put: Andre could kill anyone in the ring in about five seconds because of how strong and heavy he was.

All he had to do was come down hard on a drop.

Hart said Andre was as light as a feather when he wanted to be, but guys on his shit list knew it quick.

One example was Bam Bam Bigelow who in his first run with WWF in 1986 was something of an asshole and full of himself.

Andre got pissed at him for his behavior, and during a match came down hard on him ass-first in a rope drop and wouldn't get up. When Andre put his weight on you, you would not be able to breathe. So he sat on Bam Bam for about 30 seconds to make a point.

Bam Bam later said he thought he was going to die and shortly thereafter fixed his attitude.
He also got stiffed by Warrior one too many times at a house show and just beat the shit out of him.

Andre was known as a dude who wasn't afraid to shoot in the ring if he didn't like what you were doing at that moment.
 
Fuck Slaughter.

Stolen Valor piece of shit.
 
Just kind of funny.


 
Mr. Perfect vs. Shawn Michaels.

Perfection.


 
Ugh.

One of Vince's biggest mistakes, among many in late 1994, that led to the nadir of the WWF in 1995.

They spent much of the year creating one of the greatest heel turns, and resurrection of a career, in all of wrestling history. They turned the mostly forgotten, all-American good guy into one of the most amazing, crazy, lunatic heels.

And not just any heel, but an all-time great insane whack-job heel with the goods to back it up. Crazy Bob was incredible. Backlund cannot get enough praise for playing the part so well.

They then expertly move him into an amazing family feud angle with the Harts, turning Owen into a star in his own right, in the process.

The Backlund/Hart title match is an all-time classic in the art of technical wrestling and in-ring drama as well as consummate writing and acting on the behalf of Stu and Helen Hart.

When Bob won the title after that 8-minute long Cross-face Chickenwing, as Owen rejoiced running into the tunnel, he gave one of the best, craziest speeches of all time ending with "I feel like God!"

At this point, Bob was way, waaay over. He was THE heel. He was hated. Crazy, volatile, with the best submission hold in the business. With Hart "injured," Vince could have spent months lining up all his up-and-coming faces to take him on, with one after the other, falling prey to the Chickenwing, culminating in a final grudge match at Wrestlemania XI, six months hence, between either a returned Hart, or anointing Vince's New Generation champion to pair with Bret Hart as the face of the company.

But no. Vince instead throws away all the good booking and months of lead-up to put the strap on a completely not ready Kevin Nash, and it was not even done on a PPV, or even on Raw. It was impulsive and stupid.

From there Backlund was never the heel he could be, just a curious nut-job running for President, and Diesel went on to be the worst WWF Champion ever, both in terms of popularity, and as far as the art goes. He was a bust. A zero. His year-long reign nearly killed the company and deprived us all of potentially great matches centered on both Harts, Shawn Michaels and other new faces with actual talent. Bret Hart thought it was an amazingly poor choice, as did Ric Flair. As did Nash.

Oh well.

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A well-executed heel turn is pro wrestling at its best. And that was an all-time great name for a submission move.
 
Ugh.

One of Vince's biggest mistakes, among many in late 1994, that led to the nadir of the WWF in 1995.

They spent much of the year creating one of the greatest heel turns, and resurrection of a career, in all of wrestling history. They turned the mostly forgotten, all-American good guy into one of the most amazing, crazy, lunatic heels.

And not just any heel, but an all-time great insane whack-job heel with the goods to back it up. Crazy Bob was incredible. Backlund cannot get enough praise for playing the part so well.

They then expertly move him into an amazing family feud angle with the Harts, turning Owen into a star in his own right, in the process.

The Backlund/Hart title match is an all-time classic in the art of technical wrestling and in-ring drama as well as consummate writing and acting on the behalf of Stu and Helen Hart.

When Bob won the title after that 8-minute long Cross-face Chickenwing, as Owen rejoiced running into the tunnel, he gave one of the best, craziest speeches of all time ending with "I feel like God!"

At this point, Bob was way, waaay over. He was THE heel. He was hated. Crazy, volatile, with the best submission hold in the business. With Hart "injured," Vince could have spent months lining up all his up-and-coming faces to take him on, with one after the other, falling prey to the Chickenwing, culminating in a final grudge match at Wrestlemania XI, six months hence, between either a returned Hart, or anointing Vince's New Generation champion to pair with Bret Hart as the face of the company.

But no. Vince instead throws away all the good booking and months of lead-up to put the strap on a completely not ready Kevin Nash, and it was not even done on a PPV, or even on Raw. It was impulsive and stupid.

From there Backlund was never the heel he could be, just a curious nut-job running for President, and Diesel went on to be the worst WWF Champion ever, both in terms of popularity, and as far as the art goes. He was a bust. A zero. His year-long reign nearly killed the company and deprived us all of potentially great matches centered on both Harts, Shawn Michaels and other new faces with actual talent. Bret Hart thought it was an amazingly poor choice, as did Ric Flair. As did Nash.

Oh well.

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You know your wrestling history. It brings a tear to my eye really.

The other major problem from that ill-fated Backlund/Nash title switch is that Nash got over in the first place by being a bad ass heel, in particular by absolutely dominating the 1994 Royal Rumble then later winning the IC belt and tag titles with Shawn.

But then inexplicably and immediately upon putting the belt on him, they had Nash in a friggin Santa hat singing I Wish You a Merry Christmas at Titan Tower to the WWF employees like some smiling babyface goof. The fans didn't want it and Nash didn't have any experience at the time as a babyface - on top of the fact that frankly it's really hard in any era to get over as a babyface when you're 6'10" 300 lbs - and the whole thing was a gigantic fuckling bust.
 
Bob Backlund probably could have wrestled up until 2010....no joke. Ive seen him a few times at Indy events or signings and he always looked to be in incredible shape. Not just big, or lean, but genuinely fit. Its wild that he went away at a time where his crazy gimmick could have thrived in going into the late 90s.

Also, HBK is the in ring goat. Fuck Flair & fuck Bret.
 
Gets no better

 

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