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Browns stadium thread: To dome or not to dome

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Which would you prefer?

  • A $1B renovation of current stadium, no dome, and likely some city/state money

    Votes: 6 9.0%
  • A new domed stadium outside of downtown with mostly private money

    Votes: 58 86.6%
  • Move like Modell

    Votes: 3 4.5%

  • Total voters
    67
Is there anything published on the demographics of season ticket holders, specifically, where do most of them live?
Like, what is the % of ticket holders who live on east side, west side, south side, Akron?
There is a lot of open space south (beyond downtown), that would get a big hell yeah for the communities between Akron and Cleveland (and I suppose there is a % of Canton peeps too.)
But ultimately, it looks like west side most likely, so point is just for conversational purposes.
 
I rode the RTA from the airport into the city for the 2016 parade. It was the only way to get into the city. It worked to get me in and out, that's about all I'll say.

Clearly, whatever they do, the rail system needs a significant upgrade.
My wife drove down after work and about 20 min into the parade parked at Tower City. No issues.
 
That’s what happens when a guy from Connecticut arrives, designs your city and then goes home.

You think Cleveland’s bad? Try traveling anywhere in Connecticut.
My great-great-great grandfather Allen Connecticut III designed the city of Cleveland. I demand you take this back and your complaint about the work he did back home with his father in law John-David Rhode Island.
 
The problem is that when you're downtown, the traffic is brutal. Whoever designed the road system in Cleveland is one of the biggest idiots who ever lived. It's like they wanted all the complexity of New York City yet without the charm. It's a nightmare. Go to any big city in the American Midwest and tell me Cleveland doesn't have the worst infrastructure of all of these cities.

Even Detroit, which I find a hell hole to drive in, is better than Cleveland when you get downtown. It's pathetic we allowed this city to be built like it has been built.
Because it’s an old city that didn’t take in consideration the car until they put highways right through the city center. Cities are for pedestrians.
 
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Believe we call it “white flight” away from the downtown area to the burbs.

Lots of teams are proving this out into wealthier, outskirts of the downtown area to capture more market.


Economically, they’re often not wrong. Braves being the latest example in mlb.
I know what white flight is.
 
I’m not one for the bitter cold but domed stadiums entirely make up my least favorite stadiums I’ve been to (Texans, cardinals, colts). I’m not sure why the game just feels a lot different without all the natural light and open stadium

I guess I’m in the heavy minority of not wanting a dome and even heavier minority that it’s not bc “muh football weather”. I’ve just always been disappointed with the dome experiences I’ve had
 
There is plenty of space south of Progressive Field where the old post office was to put the stadium in walking distance of Progressive Field and Rocket Mortgage. You could put in a restautant/bar/entertainment village of some sorts too and have all three teams still downtown. However, if this doesn't work I am good with putting a stadium and entertainment district in Brookpark. Anything besides renovating the dump known as Cleveland Browns Stadium and keeping it open air which sucks
 
My wife drove down after work and about 20 min into the parade parked at Tower City. No issues.
There's so many issues with this comment I won't even try to make much of a counterpoint. Needless to say, put 1.3 million people downtown, I saw cars parked and impromptu parking lots that sprung up all over, all gouging the hell out of people trying to park. No way in hell I was going to drive into that mess, and a lot of people saw it the same way as the trains were packed.
 
I’m not one for the bitter cold but domed stadiums entirely make up my least favorite stadiums I’ve been to (Texans, cardinals, colts). I’m not sure why the game just feels a lot different without all the natural light and open stadium

I guess I’m in the heavy minority of not wanting a dome and even heavier minority that it’s not bc “muh football weather”. I’ve just always been disappointed with the dome experiences I’ve had

Retractable roof. Problem solved.
 
The last remaining hotel connected to the airport property The Sheraton, just closed last year officially. The D Concourse is just a storage lot for the United hub. The IX Center is closed.
IX Center has been reopen and hosting events for a few years now.
 
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I live over 2 hours away. I usually go to 1 or 2 games a season in Cleveland. Went to Houston to watch a playoff game before I die. Stay in a hotel downtown and hit the casino while there. So with everything it's a $2,000 weekend. I always go the first 2 months of the season. So September and October. I won't take the chance and sit in the cold the rest of the season. I doubt even if it's the playoffs will I sit outside. If we play in Detroit or Indy I will got to there instead just so I don't have to work about weather. I might even consider Nashville/Chicago when/if they get a dome.

I think a dome is the better option to make more money and have more events but is it really worth the extra billion or so. I even think the cost of tickets would increase in the resale market and the initial market. I would probably always go to Cleveland if they had a dome.

My personal vote is dome.
 
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Cleveland's most hard-hitting internet journalist brings the real yet again. Crazy how on point he is with this team despite the team acting like they don't know who he is.
 

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